[Sursound] Passive small speaker advice
Hello Sursounders (and Happy New Year!) For many years, we've been running our Sounds in Space research symposium using lots of old passive minipod speakers (as Peter Lennox had lots of these at the time of our first symposium, an we've been using them ever since https://www.podspeakers.com/) However, it's come to the time where we really need to invest in a replacement for these, essentially hifi, speakers! We have a large number of flying mole amplifiers (100W into 8ohm - like these https://www.flyingmole.co.jp/new_en/products/new_product/dadm100pro2/ ) and are looking for advice on small speakers we could use to replace the minipods with. We'll be wanting around 30 of them, and need to fly them on truss for a 3D rig and sounds level wise, the minipods have actually been ok but are a little under-spec'ed (having lots of subs on the floor helps!) Anyone got any good suggestions/experiences they'd be happy to share? Sounds in Space last year: https://www.brucewiggins.co.uk/?page_id=1119 cheers Bruce Wiggins Derby UK -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190109/ac6eed0e/attachment.html> ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] Passive small speaker advice
Hi Bruce PMC TB2S+ or smaller db1 are a good match for the flying mole amps. They do studio and hi versions not the flattest but time based response is really good. They were often sold with the flying me amps too so there's that On Wednesday, 9 January 2019, Bruce Wiggins wrote: > Hello Sursounders (and Happy New Year!) > > For many years, we've been running our Sounds in Space research symposium > using lots of old passive minipod speakers (as Peter Lennox had lots of > these at the time of our first symposium, an we've been using them ever > since https://www.podspeakers.com/) > > However, it's come to the time where we really need to invest in a > replacement for these, essentially hifi, speakers! > > We have a large number of flying mole amplifiers (100W into 8ohm - like > these https://www.flyingmole.co.jp/new_en/products/new_product/ > dadm100pro2/ > ) and are looking for advice on small speakers we could use to replace the > minipods with. > > We'll be wanting around 30 of them, and need to fly them on truss for a 3D > rig and sounds level wise, the minipods have actually been ok but are a > little under-spec'ed (having lots of subs on the floor helps!) > > Anyone got any good suggestions/experiences they'd be happy to share? > > Sounds in Space last year: > https://www.brucewiggins.co.uk/?page_id=1119 > > cheers > > Bruce Wiggins > Derby > UK > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/ > attachments/20190109/ac6eed0e/attachment.html> > ___ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > -- Dr. Augustine Leudar Artistic Director Magik Door LTD Company Number : NI635217 Registered 63 Ballycoan rd, Belfast BT88LL www.magikdoor.net +44(0)7555784775 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190109/6d8bc286/attachment.html> ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] Passive small speaker advice
Bruce Wiggins wrote: We ... are looking for advice on small speakers we could use to replace the minipods with. KEF LS50 Len Moskowitz (mosko...@core-sound.com) Core Sound LLC www.core-sound.com Home of OctoMic and TetraMic ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] Passive small speaker advice
Hi, Funktion one are about to launch a 5" top which has excellent acoustics, as soon as I get pricing and official specs I will post the details. Drew Drew Kirkland 1 campbleton cottage Hunterston Estate KA23 9QF 07876238608 On Wed, 9 Jan 2019, 13:28 Bruce Wiggins Hello Sursounders (and Happy New Year!) > > For many years, we've been running our Sounds in Space research symposium > using lots of old passive minipod speakers (as Peter Lennox had lots of > these at the time of our first symposium, an we've been using them ever > since https://www.podspeakers.com/) > > However, it's come to the time where we really need to invest in a > replacement for these, essentially hifi, speakers! > > We have a large number of flying mole amplifiers (100W into 8ohm - like > these > https://www.flyingmole.co.jp/new_en/products/new_product/dadm100pro2/ > ) and are looking for advice on small speakers we could use to replace the > minipods with. > > We'll be wanting around 30 of them, and need to fly them on truss for a 3D > rig and sounds level wise, the minipods have actually been ok but are a > little under-spec'ed (having lots of subs on the floor helps!) > > Anyone got any good suggestions/experiences they'd be happy to share? > > Sounds in Space last year: > https://www.brucewiggins.co.uk/?page_id=1119 > > cheers > > Bruce Wiggins > Derby > UK > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190109/ac6eed0e/attachment.html > > > ___ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190109/d3144eb3/attachment.html> ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] Passive small speaker advice
Genelec The Ones if you can stretch to it. Jack Sent from my iPhone > On 9 Jan 2019, at 17:29, Augustine Leudar wrote: > > Hi Bruce > PMC TB2S+ or smaller db1 are a good match for the flying mole amps. They do > studio and hi versions not the flattest but time based response is really > good. > They were often sold with the flying me amps too so there's that > > >> On Wednesday, 9 January 2019, Bruce Wiggins wrote: >> >> Hello Sursounders (and Happy New Year!) >> >> For many years, we've been running our Sounds in Space research symposium >> using lots of old passive minipod speakers (as Peter Lennox had lots of >> these at the time of our first symposium, an we've been using them ever >> since https://www.podspeakers.com/) >> >> However, it's come to the time where we really need to invest in a >> replacement for these, essentially hifi, speakers! >> >> We have a large number of flying mole amplifiers (100W into 8ohm - like >> these https://www.flyingmole.co.jp/new_en/products/new_product/ >> dadm100pro2/ >> ) and are looking for advice on small speakers we could use to replace the >> minipods with. >> >> We'll be wanting around 30 of them, and need to fly them on truss for a 3D >> rig and sounds level wise, the minipods have actually been ok but are a >> little under-spec'ed (having lots of subs on the floor helps!) >> >> Anyone got any good suggestions/experiences they'd be happy to share? >> >> Sounds in Space last year: >> https://www.brucewiggins.co.uk/?page_id=1119 >> >> cheers >> >> Bruce Wiggins >> Derby >> UK >> -- next part -- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/ >> attachments/20190109/ac6eed0e/attachment.html> >> ___ >> Sursound mailing list >> Sursound@music.vt.edu >> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, >> edit account or options, view archives and so on. >> > > > -- > Dr. Augustine Leudar > Artistic Director Magik Door LTD > Company Number : NI635217 > Registered 63 Ballycoan rd, > Belfast BT88LL > www.magikdoor.net > +44(0)7555784775 > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190109/6d8bc286/attachment.html> > ___ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit > account or options, view archives and so on. ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] Passive small speaker advice
Thanks for all these suggestions :-) Cheers Bruce On Wed, 9 Jan 2019, 19:05 Jack Reynolds Genelec The Ones if you can stretch to it. > Jack > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 9 Jan 2019, at 17:29, Augustine Leudar > wrote: > > > > Hi Bruce > > PMC TB2S+ or smaller db1 are a good match for the flying mole amps. They > do > > studio and hi versions not the flattest but time based response is really > > good. > > They were often sold with the flying me amps too so there's that > > > > > >> On Wednesday, 9 January 2019, Bruce Wiggins > wrote: > >> > >> Hello Sursounders (and Happy New Year!) > >> > >> For many years, we've been running our Sounds in Space research > symposium > >> using lots of old passive minipod speakers (as Peter Lennox had lots of > >> these at the time of our first symposium, an we've been using them ever > >> since https://www.podspeakers.com/) > >> > >> However, it's come to the time where we really need to invest in a > >> replacement for these, essentially hifi, speakers! > >> > >> We have a large number of flying mole amplifiers (100W into 8ohm - like > >> these https://www.flyingmole.co.jp/new_en/products/new_product/ > >> dadm100pro2/ > >> ) and are looking for advice on small speakers we could use to replace > the > >> minipods with. > >> > >> We'll be wanting around 30 of them, and need to fly them on truss for a > 3D > >> rig and sounds level wise, the minipods have actually been ok but are a > >> little under-spec'ed (having lots of subs on the floor helps!) > >> > >> Anyone got any good suggestions/experiences they'd be happy to share? > >> > >> Sounds in Space last year: > >> https://www.brucewiggins.co.uk/?page_id=1119 > >> > >> cheers > >> > >> Bruce Wiggins > >> Derby > >> UK > >> -- next part -- > >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >> URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/ > >> attachments/20190109/ac6eed0e/attachment.html> > >> ___ > >> Sursound mailing list > >> Sursound@music.vt.edu > >> https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > >> edit account or options, view archives and so on. > >> > > > > > > -- > > Dr. Augustine Leudar > > Artistic Director Magik Door LTD > > Company Number : NI635217 > > Registered 63 Ballycoan rd, > > Belfast BT88LL > > www.magikdoor.net > > +44(0)7555784775 > > -- next part -- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190109/6d8bc286/attachment.html > > > > ___ > > Sursound mailing list > > Sursound@music.vt.edu > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > ___ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190109/2b5b3a81/attachment.html> ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] Passive small speaker advice
I second any Genelecs too! Steve > On 9 Jan 2019, at 19:04, Jack Reynolds wrote: > > Genelec The Ones if you can stretch to it. > Jack > ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] Passive small speaker advice
..just looked at the price of the Genelec Ones...definitely wouldn't be able to get many of them! ;-) KEF LS50s look very promising :-) PCMs (we actually got hold of the flying moles, years ago, as we knew PMC used them..they are good, too!) - not sure these are flyable very easily.. Any other suggestions? cheers Bruce On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 19:34, Steven Boardman wrote: > I second any Genelecs too! > > Steve > > > On 9 Jan 2019, at 19:04, Jack Reynolds > wrote: > > > > Genelec The Ones if you can stretch to it. > > Jack > > > > ___ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190109/d65dafa5/attachment.html> ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] Passive small speaker advice
Second hand KEF eggs, It should be possible to get sets of 5 for around 100 - 200 pounds. Search for KEF egg speakers on eBay.co.uk Bosse On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 20:41 Bruce Wiggins ..just looked at the price of the Genelec Ones...definitely > wouldn't be able to get many of them! ;-) > > KEF LS50s look very promising :-) > > PCMs (we actually got hold of the flying moles, years ago, as we knew PMC > used them..they are good, too!) - not sure these are flyable very > easily.. > > Any other suggestions? > > cheers > > Bruce > > On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 19:34, Steven Boardman > wrote: > > > I second any Genelecs too! > > > > Steve > > > > > On 9 Jan 2019, at 19:04, Jack Reynolds > > wrote: > > > > > > Genelec The Ones if you can stretch to it. > > > Jack > > > > > > > ___ > > Sursound mailing list > > Sursound@music.vt.edu > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190109/d65dafa5/attachment.html > > > ___ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > On 9 Jan 2019 20:41, "Bruce Wiggins" wrote: ..just looked at the price of the Genelec Ones...definitely wouldn't be able to get many of them! ;-) KEF LS50s look very promising :-) PCMs (we actually got hold of the flying moles, years ago, as we knew PMC used them..they are good, too!) - not sure these are flyable very easily.. Any other suggestions? cheers Bruce On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 19:34, Steven Boardman wrote: > I second any Genelecs too! > > Steve > > > On 9 Jan 2019, at 19:04, Jack Reynolds > wrote: > > > > Genelec The Ones if you can stretch to it. > > Jack > > > > ___ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: < https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190109/d65dafa5/attachment.html > ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190109/f40f6fb1/attachment.html> ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] Passive small speaker advice
I'd like to recommend Australian company Grover Notting. I got a few of their CR Series passive monitors last year and am very happy with them (and also with the price!). https://www.classicaudiodesigns.com.au/tech-cross-ref.php Not much detailed info on their website but available on request. Best, David On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 19:41, Bruce Wiggins wrote: > ..just looked at the price of the Genelec Ones...definitely > wouldn't be able to get many of them! ;-) > > KEF LS50s look very promising :-) > > PCMs (we actually got hold of the flying moles, years ago, as we knew PMC > used them..they are good, too!) - not sure these are flyable very > easily.. > > Any other suggestions? > > cheers > > Bruce > > On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 19:34, Steven Boardman > wrote: > > > I second any Genelecs too! > > > > Steve > > > > > On 9 Jan 2019, at 19:04, Jack Reynolds > > wrote: > > > > > > Genelec The Ones if you can stretch to it. > > > Jack > > > > > > > ___ > > Sursound mailing list > > Sursound@music.vt.edu > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190109/d65dafa5/attachment.html > > > ___ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > -- David Stalling -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190109/b5d03986/attachment.html> ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] Passive small speaker advice
Thanks David. I've pinged them an email :-) Hopefully there's a mounting optionthat seems to be the limiting factor for us. cheers Bruce On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 21:17, David Stalling wrote: > I'd like to recommend Australian company Grover Notting. I got a few of > their CR Series passive monitors last year and am very happy with them (and > also with the price!). > https://www.classicaudiodesigns.com.au/tech-cross-ref.php > Not much detailed info on their website but available on request. > > Best, > David > > On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 19:41, Bruce Wiggins > wrote: > > > ..just looked at the price of the Genelec Ones...definitely > > wouldn't be able to get many of them! ;-) > > > > KEF LS50s look very promising :-) > > > > PCMs (we actually got hold of the flying moles, years ago, as we knew PMC > > used them..they are good, too!) - not sure these are flyable very > > easily.. > > > > Any other suggestions? > > > > cheers > > > > Bruce > > > > On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 19:34, Steven Boardman > > wrote: > > > > > I second any Genelecs too! > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > On 9 Jan 2019, at 19:04, Jack Reynolds > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Genelec The Ones if you can stretch to it. > > > > Jack > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Sursound mailing list > > > Sursound@music.vt.edu > > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe > here, > > > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > > > > > -- next part -- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190109/d65dafa5/attachment.html > > > > > ___ > > Sursound mailing list > > Sursound@music.vt.edu > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > > > > > -- > David Stalling > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190109/b5d03986/attachment.html > > > ___ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190109/825fa207/attachment.html> ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
[Sursound] a general reference for ambisonics encode, decode theory?
Hippy New Ears to Y’all! I’m putting the finishing touches to my new book for Springer “Sonification design: From data to intelligible soundfields” I want to include a general reference for ambisonic rendering (encode + decode) theory, which I execute in Csound. It doesn’t need any of the microphone stuff. Any recommendations? Many thanks, David --- Prof David Worrall, PhD Audio Arts and Acoustics Columbia College Chicago 33 E Congress Pkwy Room 601N Chicago, ILLINOIS, USA 60605 Tel: (1)312.369.8821 Fax: (1)312.369.8427 Wikipedia: David Worrall Personal research/creative practice website: avatar.com.au President, International Community for Auditory Display icad.org -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20190109/f755a042/attachment.html> ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.
Re: [Sursound] a general reference for ambisonics encode, decode theory?
* David Worrall [2019-01-10 04:14]: > Hippy New Ears to Y’all! > > > > I’m putting the finishing touches to my new book for Springer “Sonification > design: From data to intelligible soundfields” > > > > I want to include a general reference for ambisonic rendering (encode + > decode) theory, which I execute in Csound. I find this a very well written introduction http://flo.mur.at/writings/HOA-intro.pdf ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.