Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic Speakers what type to buy for 8 speaker setup
I use two octagons with one above the other. The decoding is much simpler for Z with the angles the same. My decoder is based on the angle from zero in front. ThomasChen -Original Message- From: Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt To: Surround Sound discussion group sursound@music.vt.edu Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 10:46 am Subject: Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic Speakers what type to buy for 8 speaker setup Hi everyone,Impressive setup you have there.I'm also building an 8 speaker ambisonic setup, although budget limitationswill force me to buy something like YamahaHs50, KRK rokit, or Mackies...something in the 150€ price range per speaker.ThomasChen do you use two octagons one above the other?I'm researching about my speaker positioning, and considering two quads(rectangles), one vertical and one horizontal. The goal is to provide asmall space (3 by 3 meters) with 3D sound with ambisonics. Whats the generalthough on 8 speaker positioning?I attached an idea of the placing, for illustration purposes.best regards,PedroOn Thu, May 5, 2011 at 6:38 PM, thomasc...@aol.com wrote: Darren I am using a dual octagon setup with ambisonic plus stereo playback. I have custom decoder implemented in Scope--Soniccore. I am using Genelec speakers with larger for the front and small for the rear. The addition of powered speakers is that the addition gives much greater sound pressure. The advantage of distributed sound sources is that the sound level is more tolerable than from two. They are in a 1000 sq. ft. room ThomasChen In a message dated 5/5/2011 6:07:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, i...@sacredresonance.com.au writes: Hi Darren here, I am doing a surround sound / octagon (8 speakers) setup using ambisonic software to create immersive sound running out of M-aduio firewire 410 I am wanting to do 30-80 people in a room I want to do testing in house and use for live setup as well - what you think is the cheapest option being 8 speakers. 1. What speakers should: (to buy) a) Monitors (near field) powered - would these work ? being near field. b) or just powered speakers. Please any ideas of what to buy with this setup thanks Darren -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20110505/48da4d92/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20110505/6e4a7dcf/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound-- Pedro Lopes (MSc)contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.ptwebsite: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes /http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch-- next part --An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20110505/ 99221fdb/attachment.html-- next part --A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: doublequadSetup.pngType: image/pngSize: 42473 bytesDesc: not availableURL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20110505/ 99221fdb/attachment.png___Su rsound mailing listsurso...@music.vt.eduhttps://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/surso und ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic Speakers what type to buy for 8 speaker setup
I believe that angle between speakers are important. We will fuse angles of 60 degrees or less. I have found that 45 degrees fuse well and most people are unable to locate speakers. I also found that with height helps fuse the image. I use B+ which adds a stereo front earlier in time plus B format. The early time of arrival from the stereo front helps in both richness and localization. ThomasChen -Original Message- From: Anthony Palomba apalo...@austin.rr.com To: Surround Sound discussion group sursound@music.vt.edu Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 12:41 pm Subject: Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic Speakers what type to buy for 8 speaker setup I am very interested in this as well. I have been thinking abouttaking the 3d audio plunge and would like to figure outwhat kind of setup I would need.I would also be interested in knowing what you guys areusing to do the encoding of the audio streams.AnthonyOn Thu, May 5, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt wrote: Hi everyone, Impressive setup you have there. I'm also building an 8 speaker ambisonic setup, although budget limitations will force me to buy something like YamahaHs50, KRK rokit, or Mackies... something in the 150€ price range per speaker. ThomasChen do you use two octagons one above the other? I'm researching about my speaker positioning, and considering two quads (rectangles), one vertical and one horizontal. The goal is to provide a small space (3 by 3 meters) with 3D sound with ambisonics. Whats the general though on 8 speaker positioning? I attached an idea of the placing, for illustration purposes. best regards, Pedro On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 6:38 PM, thomasc...@aol.com wrote: Darren I am using a dual octagon setup with ambisonic plus stereo playback. I have custom decoder implemented in Scope--Soniccore. I am using Genelec speakers with larger for the front and small for the rear. The addition of powered speakers is that the addition gives much greater sound pressure. The advantage of distributed sound sources is that the sound level is more tolerable than from two. They are in a 1000 sq. ft. room ThomasChenIn a message dated 5/5/2011 6:07:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, i...@sacredresonance.com.au writes: Hi Darren here, I am doing a surround sound / octagon (8 speakers) setup using ambisonic software to create immersive sound running out of M-aduio firewire 410 I am wanting to do 30-80 people in a room I want to do testing in house and use for live setup as well - what you think is the cheapest option being 8 speakers. 1. What speakers should: (to buy) a) Monitors (near field) powered - would these work ? being near field. b) or just powered speakers. Please any ideas of what to buy with this setup thanks Darren -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20110505/48da4d92/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20110505/6e4a7dcf/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20110505/99221fdb/attachment.html -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: doublequadSetup.png Type: image/png Size: 42473 bytes Desc: not available URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20110505/99221fdb/attachment.png ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound-- next part --An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20110505/ 75a6828b/attachment.html___S ursound mailing listsurso...@music.vt.eduhttps://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/surso und ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
[Sursound] Ambisonic Speakers what type to buy for 8 speaker setup
Hi Darren here, I am doing a surround sound / octagon (8 speakers) setup using ambisonic software to create immersive sound running out of M-aduio firewire 410 I am wanting to do 30-80 people in a room I want to do testing in house and use for live setup as well - what you think is the cheapest option being 8 speakers. 1. What speakers should: (to buy) a) Monitors (near field) powered - would these work ? being near field. b) or just powered speakers. Please any ideas of what to buy with this setup thanks Darren -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20110505/48da4d92/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic Speakers what type to buy for 8 speaker setup
Darren I am using a dual octagon setup with ambisonic plus stereo playback. I have custom decoder implemented in Scope--Soniccore. I am using Genelec speakers with larger for the front and small for the rear. The addition of powered speakers is that the addition gives much greater sound pressure. The advantage of distributed sound sources is that the sound level is more tolerable than from two. They are in a 1000 sq. ft. room ThomasChen In a message dated 5/5/2011 6:07:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, i...@sacredresonance.com.au writes: Hi Darren here, I am doing a surround sound / octagon (8 speakers) setup using ambisonic software to create immersive sound running out of M-aduio firewire 410 I am wanting to do 30-80 people in a room I want to do testing in house and use for live setup as well - what you think is the cheapest option being 8 speakers. 1. What speakers should: (to buy) a) Monitors (near field) powered - would these work ? being near field. b) or just powered speakers. Please any ideas of what to buy with this setup thanks Darren -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20110505/48da4d92/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20110505/6e4a7dcf/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic Speakers what type to buy for 8 speaker setup
Hi everyone, Impressive setup you have there. I'm also building an 8 speaker ambisonic setup, although budget limitations will force me to buy something like YamahaHs50, KRK rokit, or Mackies... something in the 150€ price range per speaker. ThomasChen do you use two octagons one above the other? I'm researching about my speaker positioning, and considering two quads (rectangles), one vertical and one horizontal. The goal is to provide a small space (3 by 3 meters) with 3D sound with ambisonics. Whats the general though on 8 speaker positioning? I attached an idea of the placing, for illustration purposes. best regards, Pedro On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 6:38 PM, thomasc...@aol.com wrote: Darren I am using a dual octagon setup with ambisonic plus stereo playback. I have custom decoder implemented in Scope--Soniccore. I am using Genelec speakers with larger for the front and small for the rear. The addition of powered speakers is that the addition gives much greater sound pressure. The advantage of distributed sound sources is that the sound level is more tolerable than from two. They are in a 1000 sq. ft. room ThomasChen In a message dated 5/5/2011 6:07:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, i...@sacredresonance.com.au writes: Hi Darren here, I am doing a surround sound / octagon (8 speakers) setup using ambisonic software to create immersive sound running out of M-aduio firewire 410 I am wanting to do 30-80 people in a room I want to do testing in house and use for live setup as well - what you think is the cheapest option being 8 speakers. 1. What speakers should: (to buy) a) Monitors (near field) powered - would these work ? being near field. b) or just powered speakers. Please any ideas of what to buy with this setup thanks Darren -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20110505/48da4d92/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20110505/6e4a7dcf/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20110505/99221fdb/attachment.html -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: doublequadSetup.png Type: image/png Size: 42473 bytes Desc: not available URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20110505/99221fdb/attachment.png ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound
