Re: [Sursound] Big Pre-amps?

2018-06-04 Thread TON Eichinger

Hi Len,
get 2x *Merging Horus*, its audio quality is extremely good and its 
affordable:

http://www.merging.com/products/networked-audio
You can do up to *96 channels of preamp and 96 channels of AD conversion 
in just 4 rack units*.
Connect them via a switch to a computer, it replaces a soundcard plushas 
a headphone output on board.


The ideal companion is Merging Pyramix workstation
http://www.merging.com/products/pyramix/
http://www.merging.com/products/pyramix/masscore-native
It can record up to *96 track at 192 kHz*, or 64 channels at 384 kHz, 
DXD, DSD256


Cheers,
Othmar Eichinger

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Am 04.06.2018 um 17:59 schrieb Len Moskowitz:
A customer is consider using a few OctoMics simultaneously, recording 
to computer.


Each OctoMic requires 8 channels of pre-amps.

They'll need up to 72 channels.

Ideally, the pre-amps should have digitally-set and gangable trims.

Any suggestions regarding pre-amps?

Len Moskowitz (mosko...@core-sound.com)
Core Sound LLC
www.core-sound.com
Home of TetraMic and OctoMic
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Re: [Sursound] Big Pre-amps?

2018-06-04 Thread Girilal Baars
Hi, Len!

From personal experience, for quality and unbeatable s/n it’s hard to beat 
Metric Halo’s ULN8.
And with the upcoming 3D revision (expected in a couple of weeks), it’ll be 
child’s play to set up multiple units to be seen as one giant system by the 
computer.
All with digital gain-setting, etc, naturally.
But it’s a rather pricey solution if you need 9 of those… And not super 
portable.
But perhaps with 9 Octomics, portability isn’t a primary issue to begin with.

Regards,
 
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Re: [Sursound] Big Pre-amps?

2018-06-05 Thread Len Moskowitz
We found Antelope Audio's (https://en.antelopeaudio.com) MP32 32-channel 
mic pre-amp, and its Orion and Goliath interfaces.


The interfaces come in USB, Thunderbolt and HDX versions, and are 
expandable via MADI. 64 channels is do-able.



Has anyone used these? Any comments on sound quality and software 
stability?




Len Moskowitz (mosko...@panix.com)
Core Sound LLC
www.core-sound.com
Home of OctoMic and TetraMic


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A customer is consider using a few OctoMics simultaneously, recording 
to computer.



Each OctoMic requires 8 channels of pre-amps.




They'll need up to 72 channels.




Ideally, the pre-amps should have digitally-set and gangable trims.




Any suggestions regarding pre-amps?


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Re: [Sursound] Big Pre-amps?

2018-06-05 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier

On 06/04/2018 05:59 PM, Len Moskowitz wrote:
A customer is consider using a few OctoMics simultaneously, recording to 
computer.



Each OctoMic requires 8 channels of pre-amps.


They'll need up to 72 channels.


Ideally, the pre-amps should have digitally-set and gangable trims.


Have heard good things about the Horus, too, but never used it. A nice 
alternative (possibly a bit mor affordable) would be three DirectOut 
Andiamo MC feeding a dual MADI system, or two and a Mictasy.


Btw, nice usage of the word "few" there. Classy. A quick calculation 
tells me you mean "seven or so". That's the number of SM58s I use on a 
good day, and I'm very much intrigued if slightly scared thinking of 
your usecase :-D





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Re: [Sursound] Big Pre-amps?

2018-06-05 Thread Ben Bloomberg
They use these at MCO 2 and 3 in the Netherlands. Many of the Metropole Orkest 
albums that you hear are through them after a Neve VR legend.

Ben

:)
ben
On Jun 5, 2018, 8:09 AM -0400, Len Moskowitz , 
wrote:
> We found Antelope Audio's (https://en.antelopeaudio.com) MP32 32-channel
> mic pre-amp, and its Orion and Goliath interfaces.
>
> The interfaces come in USB, Thunderbolt and HDX versions, and are
> expandable via MADI. 64 channels is do-able.
>
>
> Has anyone used these? Any comments on sound quality and software
> stability?
>
>
>
> Len Moskowitz (mosko...@panix.com)
> Core Sound LLC
> www.core-sound.com
> Home of OctoMic and TetraMic
>
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>
> > A customer is consider using a few OctoMics simultaneously, recording
> > to computer.
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> > Each OctoMic requires 8 channels of pre-amps.
> >
>
> > They'll need up to 72 channels.
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Re: [Sursound] Big Pre-amps?

2018-06-05 Thread Marcus Wrangö
Hi!

I would look into an AVB-solution from Motu, they have a 2U 16-channel rack 
unit with digitally controlled preamps, a couple of those and a AVB-switch 
would probably be a cost effective solution. I haven’t used the new motu 
preamps but the AVB racks DAC’s sound great for price. 

Best,
/Marcus 


.Marcus Wrangö 

.Composer- www.marcuswrango.com
.Tech manager - www.audiorama.se 

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> 5 juni 2018 kl. 15:41 skrev Jörn Nettingsmeier :
> 
>> On 06/04/2018 05:59 PM, Len Moskowitz wrote:
>> A customer is consider using a few OctoMics simultaneously, recording to 
>> computer.
>> Each OctoMic requires 8 channels of pre-amps.
>> They'll need up to 72 channels.
>> Ideally, the pre-amps should have digitally-set and gangable trims.
> 
> Have heard good things about the Horus, too, but never used it. A nice 
> alternative (possibly a bit mor affordable) would be three DirectOut Andiamo 
> MC feeding a dual MADI system, or two and a Mictasy.
> 
> Btw, nice usage of the word "few" there. Classy. A quick calculation tells me 
> you mean "seven or so". That's the number of SM58s I use on a good day, and 
> I'm very much intrigued if slightly scared thinking of your usecase :-D
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> Tuinbouwstraat 180, 1097 ZB Amsterdam, Nederland
> Tel. +49 177 7937487
> 
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> http://stackingdwarves.net
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Re: [Sursound] Big Pre-amps?

2018-06-05 Thread TON Eichinger

Hi Len,
get 2x Merging Horus, its audio quality is extremely good and its 
affordable:

http://www.merging.com/products/networked-audio
You can do up to 96 channels of preamp and 96 channels of AD conversion 
in just 4 rack units.
Connect them via a switch to a computer, it replaces a soundcard plushas 
a headphone output on board.


The ideal companion is Merging Pyramix workstation
http://www.merging.com/products/pyramix/
http://www.merging.com/products/pyramix/masscore-native
It can record up to 96 track at 192 kHz, or 64 channels at 384 kHz, DXD, 
DSD256


Cheers,
Othmar Eichinger

--
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Brigitta Eichinger e.U.
Hellgasse 3 & 4 . A-1160 Wien . Austria
Tel: +43 1 4847400-0 . Fax: + 43 1 4847400-22
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Am 04.06.2018 um 17:59 schrieb Len Moskowitz:
A customer is consider using a few OctoMics simultaneously, recording 
to computer.

Each OctoMic requires 8 channels of pre-amps.
They'll need up to 72 channels.
Ideally, the pre-amps should have digitally-set and gangable trims.
Any suggestions regarding pre-amps?
Len Moskowitz (mosko...@core-sound.com)
Core Sound LLC
www.core-sound.com
Home of TetraMic and OctoMic
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Re: [Sursound] Big Pre-amps?

2018-06-05 Thread David Pickett

At 15:41 05-06-18, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:


On 06/04/2018 05:59 PM, Len Moskowitz wrote:
A customer is consider using a few OctoMics 
simultaneously, recording to computer.


Each OctoMic requires 8 channels of pre-amps.

They'll need up to 72 channels.

Ideally, the pre-amps should have digitally-set and gangable trims.


Have heard good things about the Horus, too, but 
never used it. A nice alternative (possibly a 
bit mor affordable) would be three DirectOut 
Andiamo MC feeding a dual MADI system, or two and a Mictasy.


Btw, nice usage of the word "few" there. Classy. 
A quick calculation tells me you mean "seven or 
so". That's the number of SM58s I use on a good 
day, and I'm very much intrigued if slightly 
scared thinking of your usecase :-D


Well put -- except that 72/8 = 9!

David

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Re: [Sursound] Big Pre-amps?

2018-06-05 Thread Augustine Leudar
Ive used the Orion - there was some driver issues - there was some setup
thing that required the an internet connection as well which proved a pain
as the machine was on site and not online

On 5 June 2018 at 13:03, Len Moskowitz  wrote:

> We found Antelope Audio's (https://en.antelopeaudio.com) MP32 32-channel
> mic pre-amp, and its Orion and Goliath interfaces.
>
> The interfaces come in USB, Thunderbolt and HDX versions, and are
> expandable via MADI. 64 channels is do-able.
>
>
> Has anyone used these? Any comments on sound quality and software
> stability?
>
>
>
> Len Moskowitz (mosko...@panix.com)
> Core Sound LLC
> www.core-sound.com
> Home of OctoMic and TetraMic
>
>
> -
>
>
> A customer is consider using a few OctoMics simultaneously, recording to
>> computer.
>>
>
> Each OctoMic requires 8 channels of pre-amps.
>>
>>
> They'll need up to 72 channels.
>>
>>
> Ideally, the pre-amps should have digitally-set and gangable trims.
>>
>>
> Any suggestions regarding pre-amps?
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