Re: [biofuel] Re: gasahol

2001-02-02 Thread Geoff Pritchard

Hey All,

Here's my 2 cents on ETOH fuel.  Gas engines can run on straight ETOH
with apparent minor alterations to motor (mostly carburation-change jet
size) and the ethanol doesn't need to be anhydrous.  From what I've
read, can run 70% ethanol(no gas) to 90% (180 proof) with no prb.  When
mixing with gasoline, the problems with water arise.  The downside to
the gasahol thing is that it takes an incredible amount of energy (in
relation to that needed to reach 80% ETOH) to drive off the last bit of
water (~10%).  So from an overall efficiency standpoint, gasahol exists
as a sink for excess grain and allows the petroleum comps. to appear
environmentally sensitive.  I also seem to recall that the early auto
engines (maybe early Ford) were available as either alcohol or gas
burners.  If this is true, those early guys (R. Diesel included) really
had their ducks in a row in regards to the practical use and fueling
of motor vehicles.  Nobody would have believed the ludicrous measures we
go through (drilling platforms in the North Sea... HA!) to fuel an
engine.  'Nough said.

Ciao,


Geoff

Keith Addison wrote:
 
 Lots of good info in the links and files from Journey to Forever. One
 major point to keep in mind if you're mixing this yourself is that
 you NEED to have anhydrous ethanol to mix with the gas. Otherwise, as
 I understand it, the alcohol and water separate from your gas and sit
 at the bottom of your tank with the gas on top...not good. I thought
 I had read somewhere that one could mix up to more like 20% without
 engine mods, but I don't have practical experience at this so I
 should probably shut my trap now and let someone who does help you
 further.
 -andrew
 
 
 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], terry calmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I know that most gasahol is made up of 10% ethanol and 90%
 gasoline. Has any
   one ever used a higher ratio and to what extent? Were there any
 problems
   associated with this? Thank a bunch, Terry
 
 All Brazilian gasoline has a minimum of 24% anhydrous ethanol (v/v)
 content, and this will probably be upped to 26% in the near future.
 (Dick Carlstein)
 
 We STILL don't have good drying techniques. We've discussed lime, mol
 sieves, corn grits, wool, and now hydrosource. Does anyone have any
 actual results using any of these methods?
 
 Keith Addison
 Journey to Forever
 Handmade Projects
 Tokyo
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[biofuel] Diesel Forum Praises Massachusetts' New Truck And Bus Exhaust Smoke Testing Program

2001-02-02 Thread Keith Addison

http://ens.lycos.com/e-wire/Jan01/31Jan0105.html

Diesel Forum Praises Massachusetts' New Truck And Bus Exhaust Smoke 
Testing Program

BOSTON, MA January 31, -/E-Wire/-- A new Massachusetts truck and bus 
exhaust smoke testing program, which begins tomorrow, (2/1/01) has 
drawn support and praise from the Washington, DC - based Diesel 
Technology Forum, according to executive director Allen Schaeffer, 
who called the new regulation a proven method to help improve air 
quality within the region.

The overwhelming majority of trucks and buses do not smoke, stated 
Schaeffer. Smoking vehicles are the exception, not the rule. This 
program will require the operators of smoking vehicles take the 
necessary steps to eliminate exhaust smoking.

The regulations require that diesel trucks and buses undergo an 
annual smoke emissions inspection in conjunction with their required 
commercial vehicle safety checks.

Excessive smoke is the exception and not the rule. It means there is 
a problem with the operation of the diesel engine-it is out of tune, 
needs maintenance, and not operating efficiently -- all which are not 
good for the operator. Smoke represents unburned fuel. That's 
operating dollars going right up the smokestack! Smoke testing 
programs are cost effective solutions that are good for the 
environment, for regulators, for truck and bus operators and the 
public.

Massachusetts will join twelve other states which currently have 
programs to control excessive exhaust smoke. States adopting these 
programs can receive air quality credits toward meeting their clean 
air goals. Endorsed by the Federal EPA, the smoke testing programs 
have received encouragement and support from the Diesel Technology 
Forum.

It is important to note that new clean diesel engines, those built 
since 1994, have been designed to be smoke-free, state Schaeffer. 
Industry has been working hard to comply with Federal clean air 
rules with today's modern diesel releasing only 1/8 of the level of 
emissions of those manufactured as recently as 1988.

The diesel industry supports state-lead efforts to identify gross 
emitters of smoke. It is the Forum's position that buses and trucks 
should undergo a smoke emissions inspection on an annual basis - as 
passenger cars must -- to ensure proper maintenance and the lowest 
emissions possible. Massachusetts joins other states that have 
recently launched these programs including Maryland and New York. 
The Massachusetts Department of Environmental Protection and the 
Registry of Motor Vehicles can be proud of their effort, stated 
Schaeffer. It's a win-win for everyone involved and it is part of 
the formula to improve air quality in the region.

The Diesel Technology Forum brings together the diesel industry, the 
broad diesel user community, civic and public interest leaders, 
government regulators, academics, scientists, the petroleum industry, 
and public health researches, to encourage the exchange of 
information, ideas, scientific findings, and points-of-view to 
current and future uses of diesel power technology. For more 
information about the Forum, and additional data and graphics on 
smoke testing, visit our web site at www.dieselforum.org.

SOURCE: Diesel Technology Forum

-0- 01/31/01

/CONTACT: Ken Cynar, of Rowan  Blewitt Incorporated New York, 
516/741-8877 ext. 26

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[biofuel] Senate bill aims to cut US oil imports to 50 pct

2001-02-02 Thread Keith Addison

http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm?newsid=9665
Planet Ark
Senate bill aims to cut US oil imports to 50 pct

USA: January 31, 2001

WASHINGTON - US oil production would have to jump by several million 
barrels a day over the coming decade to meet a goal of Republican 
lawmakers to reduce foreign petroleum imports to just 50 percent of 
domestic supplies, according to draft legislation obtained by Reuters.

The bill, which will be introduced next week, is expected to be a 
vehicle for much of President George W. Bush's broad plan to increase 
domestic energy supplies by opening up part of a pristine Alaskan 
wildlife refuge to oil and gas drilling.

The bill also gives major oil companies operating in the Gulf of 
Mexico a break on the federal royalties they owe on oil and natural 
gas drilled in offshore waters.

The legislation includes a variety of other provisions to boost 
production of renewable fuels, increase fuel standards for 
government-owned vehicles, and offer more assistance to poor families 
for paying energy bills.

A draft copy of the 258-page bill was obtained by Reuters. The 
committee has kept the bill under close wraps and declined to comment 
on specific provisions, allowing only a few lawmakers and aides to 
see the draft version.

The main goal of the legislation would be to slash US dependence on 
foreign imports of crude oil and refined products to 50 percent by 
2010, according to the draft.

Accomplishing that would require vast new supplies of US oil and 
natural gas as well as using more renewable energy sources like wind 
and solar, it said.

The US Energy Department has estimated the United States imported 55 
percent of its crude oil, gasoline and heating oil in 2000. The level 
of imports is expected to jump to 61 percent in 2010, according to 
the DOE forecasts.

The draft legislation also directs the Energy Secretary to adopt 
interim goals to reduce US dependence on foreign oil to 54 percent 
by 2005 and to 52 percent by 2008.

BOOSTING SUPPLIES SEEN DIFFICULT

Whittling US oil imports back to 50 percent will be a daunting task, 
according to industry analysts and experts.

The Energy Information Administration, the statistical arm of the 
DOE, has previously forecast the US market will consume 22.7 million 
barrels per day (bpd) of oil and refined products in 2010.

Under the Republican legislation, that means US petroleum imports 
would have to be trimmed to about 11.4 million bpd in a decade. That 
is up from the 10 million bpd imported last year, but much lower than 
the 13.9 million barrel the EIA predicts will need to be imported 
each day by 2010.

Assuming the EIA's demand forecast proves true, in order for imports 
to be cut to 50 percent by 2010, US oil production would have to soar 
by about 2.5 million bpd.

It will be very difficult to reach that goal, said one EIA analyst, 
who asked not to be identified.

Of course, oil output would not have to increase that much if there 
was higher energy production from renewable resources like solar, 
wind, hydroelectric and geothermal as the legislation seeks to do.

The draft bill did not identify specific oil production or imports levels.

ALL EYES ON ALASKA

To increase domestic production, the Republican legislation would 
open the coastal plain of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to oil 
and natural gas drilling. Bush, a former Texas oilman, contends that 
advanced technology means the drilling would have little, if any, 
impact on the caribou, polar bears and other wildlife that live there.

US environmental groups have vowed to fight any attempt to open the 
Alaskan refuge to oil drilling.

The first lease sale, which could cover between 200,000 and 300,000 
acres of the refuge's 1.5 million-acre coastal plain, would take 
place within 20 months after the legislation is signed into law. The 
entire refuge covers 19 million acres.

A second lease sale would occur within two years of the first one. 
More sales would be conducted no later than 12 months after that as 
long as sufficient interest in development (of the refuge) exists, 
according to the draft bill.

The US Attorney General and the Federal Trade Commission would have 
30 days after each lease sale to review which energy companies were 
awarded drilling tracts to prevent any antitrust violations.

TAX BREAKS TO BOOST SUPPLIES

The legislation would also provide a tax credit for owners of 
low-volume oil and natural gas wells, located mostly in the lower 48 
states, to keep the wells operating when prices plunge.

Well operators would receive a $3 tax credit on each barrel of oil 
when the crude price fell below $15 per barrel. Natural gas producers 
with the small wells would get a credit of 50 cents on each 1,000 
cubic feet of natural gas production when gas prices dropped below 
$1.67 per thousand cubic feet.

Major oil companies drilling in the Gulf of Mexico would also receive 
a reduction in royalty payments to the government when 

[biofuel] Re: gasahol

2001-02-02 Thread Keith Addison

Hi Geoff.

Hey All,

Here's my 2 cents on ETOH fuel.  Gas engines can run on straight ETOH
with apparent minor alterations to motor (mostly carburation-change jet
size) and the ethanol doesn't need to be anhydrous.  From what I've
read, can run 70% ethanol(no gas) to 90% (180 proof) with no prb.

Or 50% with alcohol injection. Then you're running on 50% water! 
Helps to raise the compression ratio a bit too.

When
mixing with gasoline, the problems with water arise.  The downside to
the gasahol thing is that it takes an incredible amount of energy (in
relation to that needed to reach 80% ETOH) to drive off the last bit of
water (~10%).

5%. I don't think it necessarily does take that much energy. Passing 
the vapour through a column of corn grits doesn't take much energy.

So from an overall efficiency standpoint, gasahol exists
as a sink for excess grain and allows the petroleum comps. to appear
environmentally sensitive.  I also seem to recall that the early auto
engines (maybe early Ford) were available as either alcohol or gas
burners.

Henry designed the Model T to run on alcohol. He said it was the 
fuel of the future.

If this is true, those early guys (R. Diesel included) really
had their ducks in a row in regards to the practical use and fueling
of motor vehicles.  Nobody would have believed the ludicrous measures we
go through (drilling platforms in the North Sea... HA!) to fuel an
engine.  'Nough said.

Yeah. Just saw an article on ENN on an Institute for Policy Studies 
report, Top 200: The Rise of Corporate Global Power, on how 
corporations are running the place these days. So what's new?

Global economy: shifting the balance of power
http://enn.com/news/enn-stories/2001/01/01312001/economy_41639.asp

Keith Addison
Journey to Forever
Handmade Projects
Tokyo
http://journeytoforever.org/

 

Ciao,


Geoff

Keith Addison wrote:
 
  Lots of good info in the links and files from Journey to Forever. One
  major point to keep in mind if you're mixing this yourself is that
  you NEED to have anhydrous ethanol to mix with the gas. Otherwise, as
  I understand it, the alcohol and water separate from your gas and sit
  at the bottom of your tank with the gas on top...not good. I thought
  I had read somewhere that one could mix up to more like 20% without
  engine mods, but I don't have practical experience at this so I
  should probably shut my trap now and let someone who does help you
  further.
  -andrew
  
  
  --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], terry calmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know that most gasahol is made up of 10% ethanol and 90%
  gasoline. Has any
one ever used a higher ratio and to what extent? Were there any
  problems
associated with this? Thank a bunch, Terry
 
  All Brazilian gasoline has a minimum of 24% anhydrous ethanol (v/v)
  content, and this will probably be upped to 26% in the near future.
  (Dick Carlstein)
 
  We STILL don't have good drying techniques. We've discussed lime, mol
  sieves, corn grits, wool, and now hydrosource. Does anyone have any
  actual results using any of these methods?
 
  Keith Addison
  Journey to Forever
  Handmade Projects
  Tokyo
  http://journeytoforever.org/
 
 
 
 
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[biofuel] Re: ethanol as motor fuel

2001-02-02 Thread Ask me

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Just a thought, if 90% ethanol was mixed with gasoline,and a 
water 
 trap/filter such as on diesel engines, why would that not work? 
 thanks gaw
---
I doubt you would need a water trap, mix this up yourself, it 
should  completely bled quite easily.
Here in the UK,  straight winter 95UL Gasoline can take 2%water 
v/v. With all that ethanol, I doubt it would be a problem.

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Re: [biofuel] ethanol as motor fuel

2001-02-02 Thread jerry dycus

   Hi,
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Just a thought, if 90% ethanol was mixed with
 gasoline,and a water 
 trap/filter such as on diesel engines, why would
 that not work? 
 thanks gaw
 
 
   The water/alcohol and gas will seperate. The trap
will overfill with al/ water then just pass 
the seperated al/ water and gasoline as they come from
the intake.
  jerry dycus

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[biofuel] Ethanol not a renewable energy source?

2001-02-02 Thread Dragonfly

Found this in a newsgroupcould someone verify it's accuracy?



ENERGY AND DOLLAR COSTS OF ETHANOL PRODUCTION WITH CORN
by David Pimentel

Introduction

Ethanol does not provide energy security for the future. It is not a
renewable energy source, is costly in terms of production and subsidies,
and
its production causes serious environmental degradation (ERAB, 1980,
1981;
Dorving, 1988; GAO, 1990; Pimentel, 1991; Sparks Commodities, 1990;
Giampietro et al., 1997).

Clearly, conclusions drawn about the benefits and costs of ethanol
production will be incomplete or misleading if only a part of the total
system is assessed (Giampietro et al., 1997). The objective of this
analysis
is to update and assess all the recognized factors that operate in the
entire ethanol production system. These include direct and indirect
costs in
terms of fossil energy and dollars expended in producing the corn
feedstock
as well as in the fermentation and distillation processes.

Energy Balance

The conversion of corn and some other food/feed crops into ethanol by
fermentation is a well known and established technology. In a large and
efficient plant with economies of scale, the yield from a bushel of corn
is
about 2.5 gallons of ethanol.

The production of corn in the United States requires significant energy
and
dollar inputs. Indeed, growing corn is a major energy and dollar cost of

producing ethanol (Pimentel, 1991; Giampietro et al., 1997). For
example, to
produce an average of 120 bushels of corn per acre using conventional
production technology requires more than 140 gallons of gasoline
equivalents
and costs about $280 (Pimentel, 1992). The major energy inputs in U.S.
corn
production are oil, natural gas, and/or other high grade fuels.
Fertilizer
production and fuels for mechanization account for about two-thirds of
these
energy inputs for corn production (Pimentel, 1991).

HC#98/2-1-1

April 1998

Once corn is harvested, three additional energy expenditures contribute
to
the total costs in the conversion process. These include energy to
transport
the corn material to the ethanol plant, energy expended relating to
capital
equipment requirements for the plant, and energy expended in the plant
operations for the fermentation and distillation processes.

The average costs in terms of energy and dollars for a large modern
ethanol
plant (60-70 million gallon/yr) are listed in Table 1. The largest
energy
inputs are for corn production and fuel energy expended in the
fermentation/distillation process. The total energy input to produce one

gallon of ethanol is 129,600 BTU. However, one gallon of ethanol has an
energy value of only 76,000 BTU. Thus, a net energy loss of 53,600 BTU
occurs for each gallon of ethanol produced. Put another way, about 71%
more
energy is required to produce a gallon of ethanol than the energy that
is
contained in a gallon of ethanol (Table 1).

About 63% of the cost of producing ethanol ($2.52 per gallon) in a large

plant is for the corn feedstock itself (Table 1). This cost is offset,
in
part, by the by-product (dried-distillers grain) which is produced and
can
be fed to livestock. However, most of the cost contributions from
by-products are negated by the costs of environmental pollution that
result
from the production processes. These are estimated to be $0.36 per
gallon of
ethanol produced (Pimentel, 1991; Giampietro et al., 1997). This shows
that
the environmental system in which corn is being produced is rapidly
being
degraded. Furthermore, it substantiates the finding that the U.S. corn
production system is not sustainable unless major changes are made in
the
cultivation of this important food/feed crop. Hence, corn cannot be
considered a renewable resource.


Energy Inputs in Ethanol Production

About 1 billion gallons of ethanol are currently produced in the United
States each year (Peterson et al., 1995). This quantity of ethanol
provides
less than 1% of the fuel utilized by U.S. automobiles (USBC, 1996).

The amount of cropland that is required to grow sufficient corn to fuel
each
automobile is a vital factor when considering the advisability of
producing
ethanol for automobiles. To clarify this problem, the amount of cropland

needed to fuel one automobile with ethanol was calculated. An average
U.S.
car travels about 10,000 miles per year and uses about 520 gallons of
gasoline. Although 120 bushels per acre of corn yield 300 gallons of
ethanol, its energy equivalent to gasoline is only 190 gallons because
ethanol has a much lower BTU content than gasoline (76,000 BTU versus
120,000 BTU for gasoline per gallon). As shown above, there is a
significant
net energy loss in producing ethanol. However, even assuming zero or no
energy charge for the fermentation and distillation processes and
charging
only for the energy required to produce corn (Table 1), the net ethanol
energy yield from one acre of corn is only 50 gallons (190 gallons minus
140
gallons). Therefore, to provide the 

[biofuel] Re: Ethanol not a renewable energy source?

2001-02-02 Thread Keith Addison

Hello Dragonfly, and welcome. Thanks for posting this.

Found this in a newsgroupcould someone verify it's accuracy?

Which newsgroup did you find it in? The link is to the M. King 
Hubbert Center for Petroleum Supply Studies. Mission: Assemble, 
study, and disseminate global petroleum supply data.

One of the most controversial issues relating to ethanol is the 
question of what environmentalists call the net energy of ethanol 
production. Simply put, is more energy used to grow and process the 
raw material into ethanol than is contained in the ethanol itself?

A US Department of Agriculture study concludes that ethanol contains 
34% more energy than is used to grow and harvest the corn and distill 
it into ethanol. Estimating the Net Energy Balance of Corn Ethanol, 
by Hosein Shapouri et al., US Department of Agriculture, Economic 
Research Service, Office of Energy and New Uses, Agricultural 
Economic Report No. 721, July 1995 -- Studies conducted since the 
late 1970s have estimated the net energy value of corn ethanol. 
However, variations in data and assumptions used among the studies 
have resulted in a wide range of estimates. This study identifies the 
factors causing this wide variation and develops a more consistent 
estimate... We show that corn ethanol is energy efficient as 
indicated by an energy ratio of 1.24.
http://www.ethanol-gec.org/corn_eth.htm

In How Much Energy Does It Take to Make a Gallon of Ethanol?, David 
Lorenz and David Morris of the Institute for Local-Self Reliance 
(ILSR) state: Using the best farming and production methods, the 
amount of energy contained in a gallon of ethanol is more than twice 
the energy used to grow the corn and convert it to ethanol. A 1992 
ILSR study, based on actual energy consumption data from farmers and 
ethanol plant operators, found that the production of ethanol from 
corn is a positive net energy generator. In this updated paper the 
numbers look even more attractive: more energy is contained in the 
ethanol and the other by-products of corn processing than is used to 
grow the corn and convert it into ethanol and by-products.
http://www.carbohydrateeconomy.org/ceic/library/admin/uploadedfiles/Ho 
w_Much_Energy_Does_it_Take_to_Make_a_Gallon_.html

Ethanol production is extremely energy efficient, with a positive 
energy balance of 125%, compared to 85% for gasoline. Ethanol 
production is by far the most efficient method of producing liquid 
transportation fuels. According to USDA, each BTU (British Thermal 
Unit, an energy measure) used to produce a BTU of gasoline could be 
used to produce 8 BTUs of ethanol. -- American Coalition for Ethanol 
(ACE)
http://www.ethanol.org/ethanol_info.html

In fact it's a very theoretical question. A standard farming 
procedure is a myth, and even if it wasn't, what would that have to 
do with a homesteader with a good supply of waste wood to burn and no 
better way of using it, and a large supply of past-their-use-by cakes 
from a bread factory that he's rescuing from the waste stream? (An 
actual case.) The cakes could go to a pig farm instead, but they 
don't. There are many such niches -- spoiled fruit from farms that 
ought to have pigs but don't, and so on and on. Such factors never 
get calculated.

Pimental's report is also very US-specific. Dick Carlstein has 
painted a quite different picture of ethanol production in Brazil, 
for instance. (Search the list archives for Brazil.)

Once you start looking at the local level and at integrated 
approaches to crop production and wastes, and include energy 
production and use, a very different picture emerges that leaves 
these broad energy in/energy out generalisations without much meaning.

There's yet another way of looking at it. This is from 
Offgrid-Online, April 5, 2000.
http://www.offgridknowhow.com/
Will we get out more energy than we put in? Does it matter? 
Generally a scheme that did not create more energy than it consumed 
would be useless, but in this case we might have a different view. 
Since we are after a portable fuel, we might be willing to spend more 
energy to get it, so long as we used a non-portable fuel to do so. 
For example, suppose we use wood-fired heat to make alcohol. Wood is 
a poor fuel as far as portability in general is concerned and is 
nearly useless for internal combustion engines. So what if we have to 
spend 2 BTUs of wood heat for each BTU of alcohol fuel produced? That 
might still be a good deal if we had lots of wood and gasoline was 
(that is, continues to be) highly priced.
http://www.homesteadtechnology.com/newsletters/2405.txt

The Sierra Club in the US has a different objection to ethanol. They 
see the whole issue as clouded by the high levels of nitrogen 
fertilisers used to grow the maize, and the terrific eco-damage the 
N-runoff causes. But that's an objection to US factory farming, not 
to ethanol. In a more rational system there's no need for nitrogen 
fertilisers, and no loss of yield 

[biofuel] Clean Diesel Power Key to Success of Maritime Industry

2001-02-02 Thread Keith Addison

http://ens.lycos.com/e-wire/Feb01/01Feb0104.html

New Report Shows - Clean Diesel Power Key to Success of Maritime Industry

WASHINGTON, DC, Feb. 1 -/E-Wire/--
Diesel powers the American economy- including almost the entire 
commercial maritime fleet. This is the conclusion of an extensive 
study conducted by Charles River Associates and released by the 
Washington based Diesel Technology Forum. In addition to cargo ships, 
tankers, tugs, and towboats, diesel powers 94% of all freight 
shipments, 85% of all public transit buses, two-thirds of all farm 
equipment, and all heavy construction equipment. Forum 
representatives are carrying this message to the Conference on 
Marine Vessels and Air Quality being held in San Francisco on 
February 1st and 2nd.

Now, for the first time, we have a well documented and quantitative 
report, that defines diesel's critical role in the economic fabric of 
the nation and in the commercial marine industry in particular. The 
diesel impact is enormous, and in some cases irreplaceable, stated 
Allen Schaeffer, the Forum's executive director. The current success 
of the maritime industry, whether it be on the Great Lakes, rivers or 
the high seas, is tied to the increased use of modern diesel power. 
Diesel engines of all sizes are used for prime propulsion power, 
container cranes and lifts, loaders, pumps and other related 
machinery, both on vessels and land based support facilities.

It is essential, as maritime leaders meet to discuss the impact of 
ship emissions on air quality that we understand the importance of 
the diesel engine to the maritime industry, stated Schaeffer. 
Because diesel engines are essential to cost-effective worldwide 
shipping, it is a technology worth investing in, he added. The 
Diesel Technology Forum members are among the leaders in the movement 
to reduce emissions from all types of diesel engines. Representatives 
of the international shipping industry are currently attending a 
conference in San Francisco, sponsored by the EPA and more than 20 
governmental and maritime agencies and associations, to discuss the 
key issues of marine vessels and air quality.

Modern diesel technology is poised to meet the clean air challenge 
and cooperation among all the stakeholders can bring about positive 
results said Schaeffer. Retrofitting marine engines with the latest 
pollution control devices is part of the U.S. Environmental 
Protection Agency retrofit demonstration project. Tremendous advances 
are occurring in clean diesel technology each day that will provide 
an increasing number of solutions for marine operators.

In 1997, 1,921 establishments were engaged primarily in maritime 
transportation. These entities employed 73,000 individuals and had a 
payroll of $2.8 billion. Water carriers moved 563 million tons of 
cargo worth $76 billion in single-mode movements and 113 million tons 
of intermodal freight worth $10 billion. Nearly all of the bulk 
carriers that transport oil, ore, wheat and other goods are diesel 
powered. So are the containerships that transport the majority of all 
manufactured imports and exports. These ships utilize the largest 
diesel engines made.

The dominance of the diesel engine in powering ocean-going ships 
reflects improvements in the engines over the last few decades. In 
the 1970's a significant number of ships were powered by steam 
turbines. But during the 1980's and 1990's, diesel engines swept the 
field, because they permitted substantial savings in fuel costs. 
American President Lines next generation of containerships, the 
C-10's, are powered by diesels, and achieved a 60% savings in fuel 
use over the steam turbine-powered C-8's. The last edition of 
Containerisation International Yearbook, which lists all container 
vessels in commercial service or under construction, reveals that 
only several hundred of the over 7,000 containerships in service were 
powered by steam turbine engines.

According to the Journal of Commerce the 25 largest importers of 
containerized goods ship approximately 1,103,000 twenty-foot 
equivalent units (TEU's) each year. These companies include Wal-Mart, 
Dole, Chiquita Brands, Target and Bridgestone Firestone.

Approximately, 8% of the country's total freight tonnage travels by 
barge through the 12,000 miles of inland waterways. A total of 650 
million tons of freight including, 60% of the nation's grain exports, 
24% of its chemical and petroleum shipments, and 20% of its domestic 
coal are moved through this network - all propelled by diesel power. 
The workhorse of the inland waterways is the diesel-powered towboat. 
These towboats are in essence a hull wrapped around one or more huge 
and extremely powerful diesel engines. The over 5,000 towboats in the 
towboat fleet generate a total of 9.4 million horsepower. For this 
application, there are no viable alternative power sources that 
provide the efficiency, fuel economy, and power as does the diesel 
engine.

The 

[biofuel] biofuels project

2001-02-02 Thread michael jones


i am currently undertaking a research project on biofuels at the university 
of the west of England and i am stuck on where to get information. any ideas 
will be gratefully recieved,many thanks,rhysjones55.

From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: biofuel@egroups.com
To: biofuel@egroups.com
Subject: [biofuel] re: batteries and Fuel cells
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 06:29:41 +0900

 Well, unsurprisingly, I've been speaking from the gut without all the
 facts. Thanks to all for the info on the state of batteries, and
 other angles on this topic.  I have very strong feelings regarding
 IC's and their effect on our air and planet, and am all for making
 them as effecient and low emmisions as possible, but the dream of
 getting away from them completely is still a very real, and inticing
 carrot to me, over all efficiency be damned.  I'll be mulling all
 this over for years to come I'm sure.
 
 Now I need to get out of this arm chair and start practicing what I
 preach (yes I'm guilty of this as well).
 
 -Andrew

Hi Andrew

Most of the world's transport is going to depend on diesels for years
and probably for decades to come. It's by far the most economical
power source with by far the widest user base, and it will take time
to change that, no matter what brilliant, efficient and super-clean
alternatives might present themselves. That's probably especially
true for the poorer countries. That's no reason not to push for the
alternatives, but what makes the best overall sense is to clean up
the fuel.

Best

Keith Addison
Journey to Forever
Handmade Projects
Tokyo
http://journeytoforever.org/


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Re: [biofuel] Re: Ethanol not a renewable energy source?

2001-02-02 Thread David Teal

Dragonfly,
Keith's comprehensive reply omitted the following authoritative British
research report. It supports the claims of  positive net energy balances
obtained from farmed ethanol and biodiesel.  It takes full account of
farming inputs such as fertiliser, cultivation, packaging etc. and presents
all figures net of the taxes/subsidies which are prone to cloud this issue
in some sections of the media.
http://www.biodiesel.co.uk/levington_tables.htm

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Re: [biofuel] Re: Ethanol not a renewable energy source?

2001-02-02 Thread jerry dycus

   Hi David and All,
--- David Teal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dragonfly,
 Keith's comprehensive reply omitted the following
 authoritative British
 research report. It supports the claims of  positive
 net energy balances
 obtained from farmed ethanol and biodiesel.  It
 takes full account of
 farming inputs such as fertiliser, cultivation,
 packaging etc. and presents
 all figures net of the taxes/subsidies which are
 prone to cloud this issue
 in some sections of the media.
 http://www.biodiesel.co.uk/levington_tables.htm
 
 David Teal
 
If you want to get the most from almost anything
you have to work things as systems. 
 Done right ethanol is just 1 product of the
system.
 A good way would be if I was a farmer is to grow
with self produced fertilizers, crop rotation, raised
bed and enhancing the natural insectivores and
pesticides. By not using synthetic pesticides the the
insects are eaten by their natural enemies. This cuts
cost and lowers energy use by 50% or more.
 So now the crop cost less and has a lower energy,
cost hurdle to get over. Then you take the grain ,
fruit, ect and brew it. Using good practices just
making and distilling alcohol would use 15- 20 % of
the alcohol's energy if it came from there. 
 But in a system it doesn't. Alcohol only needs
low grade heat, under 200 F , that can come from many
places.
  Now the leftover mash is even a better human or
animal food because the yeast grown in the beer has a
much higher food value than straight grain, ect. So
now you have alcohol with the feedstock basicly for
free.
 But it doesn't stop there. The stalks leftover
have more energy than the grain,ect. These can be
turned into methanol or natural gas for use or sale or
turned into electricity for use and sale. The ash
makes a good fertilizer back for the next crop. 
 A farm run like this will make 3-5 times the
profit with little outside input. I believe it's the
future of farming.
 Or brew wastes, either way alcohol is viable as
an eff source of energy.
 The petro industry has many PR co's and research
flacks putting out disinformation. Reasonable priced
petro fuels will be gone soon so line up another
source of energy now to soften the blows, learn to use
less energy or start making enough to sell for the big
bucks.

  jerry dycus






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[biofuel] Re: Digital pH meters, and thanks!

2001-02-02 Thread Keith Addison

5 to 10 is wide insofar as a fish is concerned!
And as for cost, it works every time and does not require maintenance
Terry

:-) So try it first, and if you're not happy then go on to something 
more expensive. You should be working on micro-batches at first 
anyway so if it's a disaster you won't lose much.

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[biofuel] Re: biofuels project

2001-02-02 Thread Keith Addison

michael jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

i am currently undertaking a research project on biofuels at the university
of the west of England and i am stuck on where to get information. any ideas
will be gratefully recieved,many thanks,rhysjones55.

http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html

http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm

http://www.biofuels.fsnet.co.uk/


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