RE: [biofuel] has anyone made bio-diesel?--talk is cheap!
Dear /. I for one have been making quality biodiesel for many months now and use it in my boat,car and house generator. The knowledge to do this has come from this site which provides a wide range of support for the myriad of technical difficulties that arise. Try to be constuctive in your criticism for if you will use abuse as the starting point of your arguments then all you will achieve is to be removed from this user group. Mike -Original Message- From: / . [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 8:40 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] has anyone made bio-diesel?--talk is cheap! All I read is theoretical bullshit...Who in this group has actual experience producing bio-diesel? And what procedure do you use? __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/G_L2TD/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re:SVO/Cummins (long) (was SVO vs B-D) -
Joel, My answers follow your questions: Prairie Dog wrote: --Hey, Craig, why not let us *all* know how it goes with the direct-injected Rover? :-) Will do. Both initial results and long-term follow-up - I'll be checking the injectors frequently for deposits, and probably getting periodic oil analysis, per Ed Beggs (from Neoteric Biofuels - www.biofuels.ca ) recommendation. (And if your Cummins is, as I'm almost sure, an indirect-injection engine, you don't need to do either.) I just got a copy of Fryer.. in an eBay auction; it arrived yesterday in the mail. I'm looking forward to reading all about the Veggie Van. The main change I'm making to their approach - along with others in the Biofuels Group - Ed and Dana among them - is that I'm going to run a return line to both the dinodiesel (or biodiesel) tank *and* the SVO/WVO tank. Reports from the field indicate that looping the SVO return back to the injection pump can prevent air from getting bled from the system. Thanks for the encouraging words, in the event that my Cummins is IDI. As for the system desing, though, what I'd *really* like to do is to use the *main* fuel tank for WVO, and the second tank for the diesel. My main tank is 40+ gallons, and since it is a commercial vehicle, I've got plenty of space for locating the second tank. Plus, looks won't matter! That's exactly what I'd do. My truck will have about 20-22 gallons in the rear for SVO/WVO and 10-12 in front for bio or dinodiesel. The original tank has a tank cover of heavy guage steel around it, about 3/4 away from it: I wonder if I could effectively steal that space for wrapping copper coils and insulation around the main, WVO, tank? If it's a skidlate under the tank, you could sneak coils between the skidplate and the tank, but they aren't going to heat the tank as well, plus you'll have more heat loss than if they were in-tank. I'm going to use either the Webb Hot STK or Dana's design for an in-tank immersion heat exchanger. Check the (recent) Archives for chat about both - Motie first posted about the Webb a couple of weeks ago, followed by Dana's drawing of his steel or copper design. Arctic Fox also makes immersion-type tank heaters. I might add a 110v plug-in heater, too, for keeping it warm overnight. Any recommendations? For that matter, what is the best type of block warmer to use? : my truck doesn't have any heaters on it yet. I don't have any recommendations, but your Dodge dealer might be able to help you. I think that a block heater could be used to pre-warm the tank - with a 2nd one to pre-warm the engine. And I've heard of 12V mat-type tank heaters, but have never really done a websearch for them. It's been pointed out that they'd probably suck a lot of amps from the batteries if you turned them on prior to starting, and once the engine is running a good coolant loop heat exchanger works pretty quickly. I'm also wondering what kinds of guages I need to add: I've read recommendations for pressure, vaccuum, and temp gauges: will they really tell me anything? It's already got about 20 gauges more than any dude could ever need I'm going to install a coolant temp senders in my SVO/WVO tank, and maybe plumb a 2nd one into the fuel line just before the injection pump, with indicator lights on the dash. You can get coolant temp senders with a range of pre-set temps at which they'll trigger a light - AutoMeter's ProLite series makes them as giant idiot lights (and some would say we fit the definition, putting salad dressing in our fuel tanks) but the sender could trigger a small dash light instead. So, unlike the suggested thermostatically-controlled (and automated) switchover from diesel to SVO suggested in From the Fryer with the added complexity, I'll just wait for the indicator light tied to the temp sender in the tank to tell me the SVO/WVO has reached 170 degrees, then I'll flip the switch. The 2nd sender in the engine compartment will let me know if the SVO has cooled in transit - and if so, I'll switch back to diesel and go shopping for some aux. heating in the engine compartment - Neoterics $75 in-line 12V fuel-line heater, maybe, or add Racor's 200 watt fuel filter bowl heaters. Some folks add vacuum gauges so they can monitor clogging of the fuel filter. The old-fashioned way is to wait until you notice a lack of power, then change the filter element. And a final (?) question: this truck will be used on a route, so most of the time it will be idling, not driving. Does that affect the choice of WVO vs BD? I'd think that depending upon where you drive and how cold it gets, stop and go driving might increase your need for heating past the tank. Good question s- keep them coming. Craig Thanks, all! -Joel R. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of
Re: [biofuel] has anyone made bio-diesel?--talk is cheap!
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[biofuel] VIRUS ALERT
I've received two emails from Rick Lubrick, one through the email link on my site and the other through this group. Both contained the Badtrans W32 virus. Fortunately, Norton caught it and I think I'm OK. I really hope I'm OK. I don't back up as often as I should. Rick's email address was given as: [EMAIL PROTECTED], but when I attempted to reply and advise him of the problem the address was rejected as unknown recipient. The message I got through this group was Re: Engine Problem which is a message I sent to Adrian about his Rover problems. Just wanted to give everybody a heads up on this. If Rick is actually getting messages from our group, hopefully he'll be able to get the virus out of his computer. Merry Christmas, Larry *** Check out: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/12VDC_Power/ Alternative Energy News and Info at: http://www.rebelwolf.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Send FREE Holiday eCards from Yahoo! Greetings. http://us.click.yahoo.com/IgTaHA/ZQdDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] I GOT A VIRUS TOO
I got a virus from [EMAIL PROTECTED], as well. Mine had a different Subject, Re:Biofuel from biomass (cellulose) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Send FREE Holiday eCards from Yahoo! Greetings. http://us.click.yahoo.com/IgTaHA/ZQdDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re:SVO/Cummins (long) (was SVO vs B-D) -
I know a fellow who has a White-Freightliner and he has a diesel heater in his diesel tank that keep his tank warm. Don't know if it's 12 or 120. Don't know what it looks like, have never seen it. A guy could ask a White dealer about it George Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Send FREE Holiday eCards from Yahoo! Greetings. http://us.click.yahoo.com/IgTaHA/ZQdDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Biodiesel vs Dino diesel
Where BD has no additives to make it more lubricating or real smooth did it have more or less wear on the pump, valves and the like. Does it do as good a job of lubing the motor as dino diesel. Do any of you know anybody who has put on a lot of miles with BD? Did his motor and pump hold up as could have been expected from diesel? Was he as happy with BD as with dino diesel in a overall picture? George Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Access Your PC from Anywhere - Full setup in 2 minutes - Free Download http://us.click.yahoo.com/1GUySC/E6eDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: 2 stroke attachement virus warning
Hi! I also received a message from a list member's computer containing the virus/worm W32(.)BadtransB(@)MM !! You may have received it as well. Here's how to find out if you have it, and how to get rid of it: This worm sends itself out from your email to any email addresses stored on your computer. It then allows others on the net to access your computer and your security codes, etc.. You need to get rid of it right away before there is damage to your computer and it spreads to very many more. It does NOT need to be opened to infect your computer! Merely reading the original message will do it! Here's a good message to send along if you have it, with info for you and your recipients, on how to see if you have it, and how to remove it: -- WE RECEIVED A VIRUS: W32 Badtrans (dot) B(@)mm [ignore the parens they are there to keep this from being a valid virus name. The virus (actually a worm) not only attaches itself to outgoing mail but it installs a program in the operating system that tracks keystrokes. If infected, hackers could have access to all your passwords and more! For information: http://www.norton.com For a program to automatically remove the virus: http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/[EMAIL PROTECTED] m.removal.tool.html You can download and run this program to see if you have the worm. It will fix it if there and will let you know if it is not found. DO THIS NOW Caution to Windows ME users- the fix is more complicated. If you are not running a virus scanner, you should really do so, for your own protection and for those you communicate with. Also, I would recommend getting a firewall program, too. (ZoneAlarm works well, and is a free download!) Each time this worm hit *my* computer, ZoneAlarm caught it before the virus checker did. --- I suggest that all the list members might want to check their computer! If the removal tool says you have it, please send a message to the folks in your address book, so they will know to check for this! (It's hit my computer three times in the past month, but I keep uptodate on virii!) -Joel R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 2 stroke attachement virus warning Warning! I just received a virus from a member of the Biofuel list on an attachment. It was sent directly to me and had no text...it had an attachment text file snip Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Send FREE Holiday eCards from Yahoo! Greetings. http://us.click.yahoo.com/IgTaHA/ZQdDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
