[biofuel] Auto Workers Favor Greater Fuel Efficiency
http://ens-news.com/ens/jan2002/2002L-01-31-09.html Environment News Service: AmeriScan: January 31, 2002 Auto Workers Favor Greater Fuel Efficiency WASHINGTON, DC, January 31, 2002 (ENS) - A new poll released today finds that voters in Michigan - epicenter of the American auto industry - support raising fuel efficiency standards for America's cars and trucks. The poll, commissioned by the Sierra Club, found that Michigan households with a United Auto Worker (UAW) member are even more likely to favor tougher fuel economy standards. "Autoworker households in Michigan overwhelmingly supported raising fuel economy standards to 40 miles per gallon," said Celinda Lake, president of Lake, Snell, Perry & Associates, a "progressive" polling firm whose principals are among the Democratic party's leading strategists. "We found that support is high in part because Michigan voters, including UAW households, believe that increasing standards will create jobs and help the economy," said Lake. "It may run contrary to conventional wisdom, but in the hotbed of America's auto industry, voters want cars and SUVs to go farther on a gallon of gas." Pollsters found that 77 percent of Michigan voters favor increasing standards to 40 miles per gallon (mpg) over the next 10 years. Of those, 51 percent strongly favor increasing standards. An even higher percentage of UAW households, 84 percent, favor increasing fuel economy standards to 40 mpg over the next 10 years. Of those, 57 percent strongly favor increasing standards. Strong majorities of voters favored increasing fuel efficiency standards across all demographic and political subgroups. Poll results show that support for increasing fuel economy standards to 40 mpg in the next 10 years remains strong even when respondents are presented with the auto industry's position that "requiring increased average mileage increases the burden of regulation on the American car industry, costs jobs and adds hundreds of dollars to the purchase price of cars." After hearing both sides of the debate, voters rejected that argument by a margin of 76 to 17 percent, and UAW households rejected the argument by the margin of 80 to 14 percent. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) said January 18 the light truck fuel efficiency standards will remain unchanged at 20.7 mpg for the 2004 model year. Since 1996, Congress has prohibited NHTSA from spending any funds to consider any changes to the level of 1996 Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards. This prohibition was lifted in December 2001. "Raising auto fuel economy standards is an essential element to a balanced energy plan that offers quicker, cleaner, cheaper and safer energy solutions," said Carl Pope, executive director of the Sierra Club. "This poll illustrates strong support, even in the home of the loudest opponent to fuel economy standards - the auto industry. Americans recognize that raising fuel economy standards is the single biggest step we can take to reduce our dependence on oil without sacrificing the wild places Americans love." Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Air pollution linked to asthma in young athletes
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/14321/story.htm Planet Ark Air pollution linked to asthma in young athletes UK: February 1, 2002 LONDON - Children who play sports in areas with high levels of air pollution are three to four times more likely to develop asthma than other youngsters, American scientists said today. A study by researchers at the Keck School of Medicine at the University of Southern California showed that ozone can contribute to asthma - the most chronic disease in children. "This research suggests that contrary to conventional wisdom, ozone is involved in the causation of asthma," Rob McConnell, an associate professor of preventive medicine at the university, said in a statement. Reducing levels of ozone is the ideal solution, but McConnell said limiting prolonged outdoor activity of children when air pollution levels are high could help. The study published in the Lancet medical journal involved about 3,500 children ranging in age from nine to 16 who had no history of asthma. The researchers questioned the youngsters about what sports they played and monitored levels of air pollution in their communities. The communities were then divided into low and high pollution areas. After five years, 265 children were diagnosed with asthma. Overall, the sporty children were more likely to develop the disease. In communities with high levels of pollution, the risk increased with the number of sports the children played. "Somewhat to our surprise, in low-ozone communities we found no increased risk of asthma in children who played team sports," said McConnell. The researchers believe that active youngsters in highly polluted communities are taking higher doses of ozone into their lungs because they breathe rapidly and deeply. "They're breathing more ozone than a kid sitting in front of a TV inside the house," McConnell explained. REUTERS NEWS SERVICE http://www0.mercurycenter.com/premium/local/docs/smog01.htm Study links pollution to asthma in children (2/01/2002) Feb. 1, 2002, in the San Jose Mercury News http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6057-2002Jan31.html Study: Pollution May Cause Asthma (washingtonpost.com) Illness Affects 9 Million U.S. Children Washington Post February 1, 2002 The research is part of the USC led Children's Health Study, an extensive investigation into pollution and kids' respiratory health. More information on the Children's Health Study is available at: http://arbis.arb.ca.gov/research/chs/chs.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Auto Workers Favor Greater Fuel Efficiency
http://ens-news.com/ens/jan2002/2002L-01-31-09.html Environment News Service: AmeriScan: January 31, 2002 Auto Workers Favor Greater Fuel Efficiency WASHINGTON, DC, January 31, 2002 (ENS) - A new poll released today finds that voters in Michigan - epicenter of the American auto industry - support raising fuel efficiency standards for America's cars and trucks. The poll, commissioned by the Sierra Club, found that Michigan households with a United Auto Worker (UAW) member are even more likely to favor tougher fuel economy standards. "Autoworker households in Michigan overwhelmingly supported raising fuel economy standards to 40 miles per gallon," said Celinda Lake, president of Lake, Snell, Perry & Associates, a "progressive" polling firm whose principals are among the Democratic party's leading strategists. "We found that support is high in part because Michigan voters, including UAW households, believe that increasing standards will create jobs and help the economy," said Lake. "It may run contrary to conventional wisdom, but in the hotbed of America's auto industry, voters want cars and SUVs to go farther on a gallon of gas." Pollsters found that 77 percent of Michigan voters favor increasing standards to 40 miles per gallon (mpg) over the next 10 years. Of those, 51 percent strongly favor increasing standards. An even higher percentage of UAW households, 84 percent, favor increasing fuel economy standards to 40 mpg over the next 10 years. Of those, 57 percent strongly favor increasing standards. Strong majorities of voters favored increasing fuel efficiency standards across all demographic and political subgroups. Poll results show that support for increasing fuel economy standards to 40 mpg in the next 10 years remains strong even when respondents are presented with the auto industry's position that "requiring increased average mileage increases the burden of regulation on the American car industry, costs jobs and adds hundreds of dollars to the purchase price of cars." After hearing both sides of the debate, voters rejected that argument by a margin of 76 to 17 percent, and UAW households rejected the argument by the margin of 80 to 14 percent. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) said January 18 the light truck fuel efficiency standards will remain unchanged at 20.7 mpg for the 2004 model year. Since 1996, Congress has prohibited NHTSA from spending any funds to consider any changes to the level of 1996 Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards. This prohibition was lifted in December 2001. "Raising auto fuel economy standards is an essential element to a balanced energy plan that offers quicker, cleaner, cheaper and safer energy solutions," said Carl Pope, executive director of the Sierra Club. "This poll illustrates strong support, even in the home of the loudest opponent to fuel economy standards - the auto industry. Americans recognize that raising fuel economy standards is the single biggest step we can take to reduce our dependence on oil without sacrificing the wild places Americans love." Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Air pollution linked to asthma in young athletes
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/14321/story.htm Planet Ark Air pollution linked to asthma in young athletes UK: February 1, 2002 LONDON - Children who play sports in areas with high levels of air pollution are three to four times more likely to develop asthma than other youngsters, American scientists said today. A study by researchers at the Keck School of Medicine at the University of Southern California showed that ozone can contribute to asthma - the most chronic disease in children. "This research suggests that contrary to conventional wisdom, ozone is involved in the causation of asthma," Rob McConnell, an associate professor of preventive medicine at the university, said in a statement. Reducing levels of ozone is the ideal solution, but McConnell said limiting prolonged outdoor activity of children when air pollution levels are high could help. The study published in the Lancet medical journal involved about 3,500 children ranging in age from nine to 16 who had no history of asthma. The researchers questioned the youngsters about what sports they played and monitored levels of air pollution in their communities. The communities were then divided into low and high pollution areas. After five years, 265 children were diagnosed with asthma. Overall, the sporty children were more likely to develop the disease. In communities with high levels of pollution, the risk increased with the number of sports the children played. "Somewhat to our surprise, in low-ozone communities we found no increased risk of asthma in children who played team sports," said McConnell. The researchers believe that active youngsters in highly polluted communities are taking higher doses of ozone into their lungs because they breathe rapidly and deeply. "They're breathing more ozone than a kid sitting in front of a TV inside the house," McConnell explained. REUTERS NEWS SERVICE http://www0.mercurycenter.com/premium/local/docs/smog01.htm Study links pollution to asthma in children (2/01/2002) Feb. 1, 2002, in the San Jose Mercury News http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6057-2002Jan31.html Study: Pollution May Cause Asthma (washingtonpost.com) Illness Affects 9 Million U.S. Children Washington Post February 1, 2002 The research is part of the USC led Children's Health Study, an extensive investigation into pollution and kids' respiratory health. More information on the Children's Health Study is available at: http://arbis.arb.ca.gov/research/chs/chs.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] G-8 Energy Meeting Headed For Detroit
http://ens-news.com/ens/feb2002/2002L-02-01-09.html Environment News Service: AmeriScan: February 1, 2002 G-8 Energy Meeting Headed For Detroit DETROIT, Michigan, February 1, 2002 (ENS) - Detroit will host a meeting of energy leaders from eight nations this May. "I am delighted to join [Michigan Governor John] Engler today to announce that on May 2 and 3, here in the City of Detroit, the United States will host an official meeting of the energy ministers of the G-8 nations," said Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham. The May meeting will bring together the energy ministers from Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, the United Kingdom and the European Union to explore issues of cooperation and understanding relating to energy, issues that each year are more and more global in scope, Abraham said. "When I first met with President elect [George W.] Bush to discuss the possibility of becoming the Secretary of Energy, one of the things he strongly emphasized was the importance of a diversity in the supply of fuels as a foundation for energy security," Abraham said. "He and I both agreed on the need to develop energy strategies to increase energy production around the world and to work closely with other nations to build international energy security." During the 2000 campaign, then Governor Bush raised the idea that the Secretary of Energy should hold regular consultations with the energy leaders of other nations. He incorporated this thinking into the national energy policy released last May, which called for holding meetings with the energy ministers of the G-8 nations. "I found in my discussions with energy ministers from various developed countries a lot of enthusiasm for the idea," Abraham noted. "And so to move it along, I offered to host the first of what I hope will be annual forums. I am pleased to say this proposal was also enthusiastically received." Hosting the G-8 energy meeting in Detroit will take advantage of the region's "diverse energy mix," Abraham said, which includes nuclear power, coal, oil, natural gas, hydropower and other renewable sources. "Detroit has an interesting DOE component as well, as the site for a superconductivity pilot program that searches for new ways to carry huge amounts of current safely, efficiently and reliably," Abraham added. The G-8 energy meeting will seek answers of how all of these developing technologies can be applied to meet the nation's energy challenges. The Bush Administration has asked the Canadian government to serve as co-host for the energy ministerial meeting. Last summer, Canadian Prime Minister Chretien announced plans for holding the overall G-8 2002 Summit for heads of state in Alberta. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] G-8 Energy Meeting Headed For Detroit
http://ens-news.com/ens/feb2002/2002L-02-01-09.html Environment News Service: AmeriScan: February 1, 2002 G-8 Energy Meeting Headed For Detroit DETROIT, Michigan, February 1, 2002 (ENS) - Detroit will host a meeting of energy leaders from eight nations this May. "I am delighted to join [Michigan Governor John] Engler today to announce that on May 2 and 3, here in the City of Detroit, the United States will host an official meeting of the energy ministers of the G-8 nations," said Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham. The May meeting will bring together the energy ministers from Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, the United Kingdom and the European Union to explore issues of cooperation and understanding relating to energy, issues that each year are more and more global in scope, Abraham said. "When I first met with President elect [George W.] Bush to discuss the possibility of becoming the Secretary of Energy, one of the things he strongly emphasized was the importance of a diversity in the supply of fuels as a foundation for energy security," Abraham said. "He and I both agreed on the need to develop energy strategies to increase energy production around the world and to work closely with other nations to build international energy security." During the 2000 campaign, then Governor Bush raised the idea that the Secretary of Energy should hold regular consultations with the energy leaders of other nations. He incorporated this thinking into the national energy policy released last May, which called for holding meetings with the energy ministers of the G-8 nations. "I found in my discussions with energy ministers from various developed countries a lot of enthusiasm for the idea," Abraham noted. "And so to move it along, I offered to host the first of what I hope will be annual forums. I am pleased to say this proposal was also enthusiastically received." Hosting the G-8 energy meeting in Detroit will take advantage of the region's "diverse energy mix," Abraham said, which includes nuclear power, coal, oil, natural gas, hydropower and other renewable sources. "Detroit has an interesting DOE component as well, as the site for a superconductivity pilot program that searches for new ways to carry huge amounts of current safely, efficiently and reliably," Abraham added. The G-8 energy meeting will seek answers of how all of these developing technologies can be applied to meet the nation's energy challenges. The Bush Administration has asked the Canadian government to serve as co-host for the energy ministerial meeting. Last summer, Canadian Prime Minister Chretien announced plans for holding the overall G-8 2002 Summit for heads of state in Alberta. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] canola vs. soy oil... stuff...
Hi Jeff Nice, thanks, I enjoyed reading that. >I could draw up a diagram and post it to the files section if anyone >has questions. That would be useful, but the Files section is closed for uploads. I can upload it though, if you send it to me direct. Which format would you use? That's a diagram, not just an iodine table? Or a diagram and an iodine table? :-) >I hope this helps anyone. It does, it does! Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ >JEFF Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Green Scissors: Subsidies To Energy Industry Set To Double
http://ens-news.com/ens/jan2002/2002L-01-31-09.html Environment News Service: AmeriScan: January 31, 2002 Green Scissors: Subsidies To Energy Industry Set To Double WASHINGTON, DC, January 31, 2002 (ENS) - Government subsidies to oil, coal and nuclear power industries could double if the Senate approves a House drafted energy bill (HR 4), according to a report released today by the Green Scissors Campaign, a coalition of environmental and citizens groups. Led by Friends of the Earth, Taxpayers for Common Sense and the U.S. Public Interest Research Group, the Green Scissors Campaign works with Congress and the administration to end environmentally harmful and wasteful spending. "Running on Empty: How Environmentally Harmful Energy Subsidies Siphon Billions from Taxpayers" details new and existing subsidies to oil, coal, gas and nuclear power industries that would total $62 billion over the next 10 years. "The richest polluters in the land are already raking in enormous, mind-boggling handouts," said Erich Pica of Friends of the Earth, director of the Green Scissors Campaign. "And our leaders want to give them more while our economy is struggling? It's time for President Bush and Congress to put a stop to this outrageous waste of taxpayer dollars." The report estimates that existing subsidies and tax breaks to polluting energy industries totaling $33 billion will nearly double, to $62 billion, if the House energy bill is signed into law. Coal, oil and nuclear industry allies in Congress are promoting these new subsidies despite the erosion over the past year of a four year budget surplus into a $100 billion deficit. The report documents some of the tax breaks and subsidies that energy giants such as Enron lobbied for in the House energy bill. The now bankrupt Enron, which paid no corporate income tax in four of the last five years, would have benefited from tax breaks on pipelines as well as royalty subsidies in the House bill. These handouts, combined, total $4.9 billion dollars to industry over the next decade. Both ChevronTexaco and British Petroleum have vast assets in the Gulf of Mexico and could benefit from royalty relief and research and development programs targeted towards activities in the Gulf. The Senate is poised to begin debate on its own energy bill (S 1766) in the next few weeks. While the legislation is incomplete, some subsidies for fossil fuels and nuclear energy are already emerging. "The subsidies and tax breaks in HR 4 reward the oil, coal and nuclear industries that dirty our water and foul our air," added U.S. Public Interest Research Group (PIRG) staff attorney Pierre Sadik. "The Senate should reject these enormous polluter giveaways, and move us toward a cleaner, smarter, and more secure energy future." The Sustainable Energy Coalition rejected the president's call in his State of the Union Address on Tuesday to pass HR 4. Said Susanna Drayne, "The House bill sets back national energy policy with handouts to already profitable and mature industries. It relies on dirty, expensive, and dangerous fossil fuels and nuclear power. The United States has three percent of global oil reserves but accounts for 25 percent of global demand, and no amount of drilling at home will enable us to reduce our dependence on foreign oil." "A sound energy policy," said Drayne, "should give priority to increasing energy efficiency in every sector of our economy and greatly expanding use of our abundant renewable energy resources." Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Green Scissors: Subsidies To Energy Industry Set To Double
http://ens-news.com/ens/jan2002/2002L-01-31-09.html Environment News Service: AmeriScan: January 31, 2002 Green Scissors: Subsidies To Energy Industry Set To Double WASHINGTON, DC, January 31, 2002 (ENS) - Government subsidies to oil, coal and nuclear power industries could double if the Senate approves a House drafted energy bill (HR 4), according to a report released today by the Green Scissors Campaign, a coalition of environmental and citizens groups. Led by Friends of the Earth, Taxpayers for Common Sense and the U.S. Public Interest Research Group, the Green Scissors Campaign works with Congress and the administration to end environmentally harmful and wasteful spending. "Running on Empty: How Environmentally Harmful Energy Subsidies Siphon Billions from Taxpayers" details new and existing subsidies to oil, coal, gas and nuclear power industries that would total $62 billion over the next 10 years. "The richest polluters in the land are already raking in enormous, mind-boggling handouts," said Erich Pica of Friends of the Earth, director of the Green Scissors Campaign. "And our leaders want to give them more while our economy is struggling? It's time for President Bush and Congress to put a stop to this outrageous waste of taxpayer dollars." The report estimates that existing subsidies and tax breaks to polluting energy industries totaling $33 billion will nearly double, to $62 billion, if the House energy bill is signed into law. Coal, oil and nuclear industry allies in Congress are promoting these new subsidies despite the erosion over the past year of a four year budget surplus into a $100 billion deficit. The report documents some of the tax breaks and subsidies that energy giants such as Enron lobbied for in the House energy bill. The now bankrupt Enron, which paid no corporate income tax in four of the last five years, would have benefited from tax breaks on pipelines as well as royalty subsidies in the House bill. These handouts, combined, total $4.9 billion dollars to industry over the next decade. Both ChevronTexaco and British Petroleum have vast assets in the Gulf of Mexico and could benefit from royalty relief and research and development programs targeted towards activities in the Gulf. The Senate is poised to begin debate on its own energy bill (S 1766) in the next few weeks. While the legislation is incomplete, some subsidies for fossil fuels and nuclear energy are already emerging. "The subsidies and tax breaks in HR 4 reward the oil, coal and nuclear industries that dirty our water and foul our air," added U.S. Public Interest Research Group (PIRG) staff attorney Pierre Sadik. "The Senate should reject these enormous polluter giveaways, and move us toward a cleaner, smarter, and more secure energy future." The Sustainable Energy Coalition rejected the president's call in his State of the Union Address on Tuesday to pass HR 4. Said Susanna Drayne, "The House bill sets back national energy policy with handouts to already profitable and mature industries. It relies on dirty, expensive, and dangerous fossil fuels and nuclear power. The United States has three percent of global oil reserves but accounts for 25 percent of global demand, and no amount of drilling at home will enable us to reduce our dependence on foreign oil." "A sound energy policy," said Drayne, "should give priority to increasing energy efficiency in every sector of our economy and greatly expanding use of our abundant renewable energy resources." Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuels-biz] SMUD Energy Festival Needs Biodiesel Rep
if you are relatively local, and are interested, I have started this group. anton Hi folks, the new burnveggies list is up and running, and I want you to subscribe if you would like to exchange ideas and contacts pertaining homebrew diesel fuel. The other lists are excellent sources of info, recipes, ideas etc. , but they have members from all around the world, and I think we need a bay area/ northern CA list for us folks. To subscribe, go to http://goblin.punk.net/mailman/listinfo/burnveggies and fill out the form. The list is brand new, so I can't promise anything about traffic, but I think it will be a useful tool. Please post any interesting local events, places to get supplies, cars for sale, places to get equipment, or anything else you want to talk to other biodieselers in your local area about. Thanks, anton ___ Fandango mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://goblin.punk.net/mailman/listinfo/fandango -Original Message- From: keith smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 9:47 AM To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] SMUD Energy Festival Needs Biodiesel Rep Ryan, I was probably the person you needed. I have done extensive research into biodiesel and am currently working on infrastructure to make it as available as petrodiesel. I have read thousands of web pages, researched hundreds of sites and discovered a formula which reduces the cost of production. If any other speaking opportunities arise, I will do my best to make myself available. Success to you, Keith Smith On Tue, 29 January 2002, "R. Ryan Hammond" wrote: snip Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] another method maybe
heating reduces the viscosity to acceptable levels. using cold oil is bad for a few different reasons beyond viscosity reasons. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - http://24.190.106.81:8383/2000/humanpower.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Brian Dickinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 6:35 PM Subject: [biofuel] another method maybe > What would be the drawbacks of using a detergent or a solvent to reduce the viscosity of SVO before either using it straight or heating to lower it further. Normal deisel and petrol have detergents in them dont they? > -- > > ___ > Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com > http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > > Win a ski trip! > http://www.nowcode.com/register.asp?affiliate=1net2phone3a > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: Vacumn distillation
Unfortunately copper isn't recommended for biodiesel - preferably all components would be 316 stainless steel. What I am looking for is an off-the-shelf item that would serve the purpose for in-line vacuum distillation for methanol recovery. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Terry Wilhelm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Revenoor Co., www.revenoor.com, makes all copper > stills ranging from 5 gallon removable tops to 1,000 > gallon systems. We have several people pulling 25 > inches of vacuum on them. Although those models have > been re-enforced somewhat. > Hope that helps > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "movember" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Any suggestions for an off-the-shelf vacuum > distillation unit for > >recovering methanol from a home-built continuous > processor? > >If possible, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Preferably, send it here to the list - I'm sure a lot > of members > would be interested. > > Keith Addison > Journey to Forever > Handmade Projects > Tokyo > http://journeytoforever.org/ > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list > address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! > http://greetings.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: What is a "good" BD yield from WVO?
I have been making BD for a while now and have been getting a yield of 80% usable washed/dried/filtered BD per volume of initial WVO. I just want to know if this is "good" or should I try to refine my process? For example, I start with 10 liters of WVO and after all is said and done I have 8 liters of washed/dried/filtered BD that I put in the my VW. Is this an acceptable yield from soy WVO?--what type of results should I see? --- John Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Turbo > Think you should read Kens post again. > Approx 12-14% of the volume of oil will be the > amount of methanol used in > the reaction. this displaces ABOUT the same volume > of glycerine. > If your oil is new and clean with low FFA's then if > you add 20% of the > volume of oil as methoxide you will get back > 98% of the volume of oil as biodiesel. > 2% of the volume of oil as unreacted oil which will > be in suspension in the > biod. > 12 - 14% of the volume of oil as glycerine. > 6 - 8 % of the volume of oil as excess methanol most > of which will be > disolved in the glycerine because as you found in > the archives methanol > dissolves more readily in glyc. than in bioD. > remember this only applies to > the excess methanol after the reaction - the 12-14% > methanol which has been > changed in the reaction is no longer methanol. You > do need to add excess > methanol otherwise the reaction will probably not be > complete and you will > also end up with a lot of unreacted oil. > There will also be a small amount of soaps and > caustic salts which will be > both in the BioD and Glyc. > BUT as ken said these figures are very flexible and > this is just a rough > guide. > > make some litre test batches from each new lot of > oil and you will find out > a lot. > do a search for Dr Pepper(pat pend.) on this site > http://biodiesel.infopop.net for the easy way to do > test batches. > > - Original Message - > From: "turbodiesel_vw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2002 4:18 > Subject: [biofuel] Re: What is a "good" BD yield > from WVO? > > > > o.k.--fine, > > > > I'll try and answer my own question: > > > > According to the archieves glycerine is soluble in > methanol. If you > > add 20% Methanol of which about 14% is absorbed by > the glcerine then > > an ideal BD yield should be about 86% volume of > WVO used. > > > > So if your yield is 80% or better your getting > "good" BD yield! > > > > right? > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] political crap
I am not sure about the horsepower of cars , or 2 seats or four or 24 has anything to do with biofuel , your man in where ever that wants to make fuel , in the broadest of areas. would be more on topic then takeing away rights . I think that there might be other formate for that ??? I am however learning a lot from whats here , and will soon start to make fuel to power Plant engines to make wood pellet for heaters . Thank you Harvey Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] ethanol distillation
I am new to this group so this may have already been answered before, but I have not been able to find any information on it yet. I keep seeing information about energy use for distillation being a limiting factor using ethanol as an alternative fuel source. Has anyone looked into using some sort of solar collector to provide the heat (or at least some of the heat) needed for distillation? Randall Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] another method maybe
What would be the drawbacks of using a detergent or a solvent to reduce the viscosity of SVO before either using it straight or heating to lower it further. Normal deisel and petrol have detergents in them dont they? -- ___ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Win a ski trip! http://www.nowcode.com/register.asp?affiliate=1net2phone3a Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] canola vs. soy oil... stuff...
I decided to do a little research on the actual chemical structure of canola, soy, and linseed oil to see how each differed and to see if the chemical structure itself has something to do with the various properties of the oil, once it is converted into biodiesel. I hope I don't confuse anyone! I am sure that most people who read this list understand what it is that makes an oil (glycerol bound to 3 fatty acids). Animal tallow/lard, is saturated, meaning that in the fatty acid portion, all the carbons are bound to 2 hydrogens, and there are no double bonds. This allows the chains of fatty acids to be straighter, and more pliable so they harden at lower temperatures (that's why lard is a solid). As you increase the number of double bonds in a fatty acid, you reduce that ability for oils to gain a conformation that would make them solid, so they remain liquid. I can explain it by imagining that you put a bunch of strings in a line. Now tie knots in various places on the strings and see how they don't fit together tightly. To test a vegetable oil to see how many double bonds (how unsaturated it is) Iodine is introduced to the oil. The iodine will attach itself over a double bond to make a single bond where an iodine is now attached to each carbon involved in that double bond. The higher the iodine number does not refer to the amount of iodine in the oil, but rather the amount of iodine needed to "saturate" the oil, or break all the double bonds. So don't worry about an oil's iodine number being high to ruin an engine because oils for the most parts contain only trace amounts of it at best naturally. How does this translate to biodiesel? When the fatty acid chains are broken from the glycerol and then re-esterified to methyl or ethyl groups, those fatty acids still have their double bonds. That means that the more double bonds, the lower the cloud point because they resist solidifying more under lower temps. It seems obvious, that if you use lard or tallow, the biodiesel will solidify at a higher temperature because the fat it was formed from also solidified at a higher temperature. How this translates into combustion, I am not really sure. It seems to me that the more saturated an oil is, the more efficient it burns (because double bonds mean less hydrogen present). A double bond between 2 carbon atoms will however has more energy when broken (meaning more heat given off when burning/combustion) The reference to epoxifiying is where a double bonded carbon is oxidized so that an oxygen atom now has a bond to each carbon (an oxygen has 2 bonds to give unlike only 1 for iodine) these are also known as oxiranes, or cyclic ethers. In laboratory, the way these are created is by using hydrogen peroxide in the presence of a zeolite. I know for a fact that epoxides can be carcinogenic, however, I know from my knowledge of Chemistry since I am studying it in college right now, that an epoxide is also extremely unstable, and if exposed to the right conditions, it will either form a diol, or a ketone. I am sure that this will also lower the amount of CO emissions in an engine. In the case of a diol (2 -OH groups), it makes that once unsaturated double Carbon bond into a saturated bond, and that raises the flash point. In the case of a ketone (a -C=O double bond), I am not really sure how it affects the chemical properties of the fatty acid. I could draw up a diagram and post it to the files section if anyone has questions. I hope this helps anyone. JEFF Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Potassium catalyst
I wouldn't put NAOH or KOH flakes in my hands, is that what you do? --- Ken Provost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mine comes as "flakes" -- thin plates about 1mm thick, irregularly > shaped from 4 - 15 mm across. They can be snapped into smaller > bits in your fingers, but grinding them would make a lot of very > nasty dust. It is very hygroscopic, even worse than NaOH, and it > can't be dried in the oven (it justs "melts" into solution). But you're > correct that even in large flakes it dissolves more readily in methanol > than NaOH does, and with greater exotherm. > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > = -Martin Klingensmith http://devzero.ath.cx/ http://www.nnytech.net/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Transesterification Process
Dear Nicola: We are working with an experimental continuous Bio plant production, with soybean oil and lard. The rate in 500 lts/hr of oil, 125 lts/hr methanol, and the necessary HONa, in function of the acidity of the row material. The glycerine obtained is stechiometric ( + 99 % of the reaction). Sincerely, Zvonko Spekuljak. --- Nicola Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear All, > > My name is Nicola Smith, and I am a final year PhD > student at the University > of Strathclyde in Glasgow, Scotland. I am currently > developing a computer > simulation tool which allows energy demands > (electricity, heat, hot water > and transport) for individual buildings, > communities, industrial buildings, > farms etc, to be matched with possible renewable > energy sources, to allow > reliable renewable energy systems to be designed. > The program originally > focused on wind and solar technologies meeting > electricity demands, and I am > currently extending the scope to allow residual > demands for electricity, > heat, hot water and transportation, to be met using > any of a variety of > sustainable fuels (biogas, hydrogen, biodiesel, > ethanol, methanol and other > biomass and refuse derived fuels). These fuels > would be made, using > various processes, from biomass and waste. Hydrogen > may also be produced by > electrolysis, using excess electricity. > > In order to do this, I need to find out some more > information about the > transesterification process, and any help you might > be able to give me with > the folowing would be greatly appreciated. > > > BATCH PROCESS > > - Am I right in saying that for a batch of 1000 > litres of oil, you will need > around 150-200 litres of methanol, and around 6-7 kg > of catalyst (KOH, lye, > NaOH)? > > - How much biodiesel, glycerine and other > by-products does this produce? > > - Do these amounts change significantly if using > different types of oil (ie > pure or waste), if ethanol is used, or with > different catalysts? > > > > - If heating the oil to remove water, what sort of > power rating (kW) would > be required of the heater for a 1000 litre batch? > > - What power rating (kW) of mixer would be required > for mixing this size of > batch? > > > > - Am I right in saying that the mixture should be > mixed for about an hour, > and then left for 8 to 12 hours to settle? > > - Are there any other energy inputs required for > this process? > > > > CONTINUAL PROCESS > > - I have heard that there are continual feed > processes available. If anyone > has any experience of these, could they tell me, for > a large and a small > plant, what the oil, methanol and catalyst feed > rates would be per hour? > > - How much biodiesel, glycerine and other > by-products would this produce per > hour? > > - What energy input (kW) is required for the > process, and in what form > (electricity, heat etc)? > > - Do these amounts change significantly if using > different types of oil (ie > pure or waste), if ethanol is used, or with > different catalysts? > > > > OIL DEGRADATION > > - Does the vegetable oil significantly degrade if > stored for a reasonable > length of time prior to processing, and, if so, at > what rate (for instance, > percentage volume per day)? > > > > OIL EXTRACTION > > - Does anyone have experience with oil extraction > from energy crops? If so, > how much energy (electricity or heat) is required > per litre of oil for the > extraction process? > > > I realise there are a lot of questions here, but any > help you may be able to > give me with any of the above would be greatly > appreciated. > > With Thanks, > > Nicola Smith, > 1/3, 2 Linden Place, > Anniesland , > Glasgow G13 1EF, > Scotland, > UK. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For more information on the program I am developing, > please follow the links > below. The version desribed here, however, does not > contain the > improvements which I am currently making. > > www.sesg.strath.ac.uk > > -> downloads > -> MERIT > -> MERIT tutorial > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Vacumn distillation
The Revenoor Co., www.revenoor.com, makes all copper stills ranging from 5 gallon removable tops to 1,000 gallon systems. We have several people pulling 25 inches of vacuum on them. Although those models have been re-enforced somewhat. Hope that helps [EMAIL PROTECTED] "movember" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Any suggestions for an off-the-shelf vacuum distillation unit for >recovering methanol from a home-built continuous processor? >If possible, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Preferably, send it here to the list - I'm sure a lot of members would be interested. Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Potassium catalyst
> >I'm thinking of using potassium hydroxide as catalyst instead of >caustic soda in the hope that it may be easier to mix with the >methanol. Does anyone know how it comes? I'm hoping it isn't big >tough crystals! Also does it suck up water if it's left exposed to >air? Mine comes as "flakes" -- thin plates about 1mm thick, irregularly shaped from 4 - 15 mm across. They can be snapped into smaller bits in your fingers, but grinding them would make a lot of very nasty dust. It is very hygroscopic, even worse than NaOH, and it can't be dried in the oven (it justs "melts" into solution). But you're correct that even in large flakes it dissolves more readily in methanol than NaOH does, and with greater exotherm. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Potassium catalyst
Hi all I'm thinking of using potassium hydroxide as catalyst instead of caustic soda in the hope that it may be easier to mix with the methanol. Does anyone know how it comes? I'm hoping it isn't big tough crystals! Also does it suck up water if it's left exposed to air? Thanks in anticipation James PS. I hear it also turns the wash water into a great fertilizer. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] SMUD Energy Festival Needs Biodiesel Rep
Ryan, I was probably the person you needed. I have done extensive research into biodiesel and am currently working on infrastructure to make it as available as petrodiesel. I have read thousands of web pages, researched hundreds of sites and discovered a formula which reduces the cost of production. If any other speaking opportunities arise, I will do my best to make myself available. Success to you, Keith Smith On Tue, 29 January 2002, "R. Ryan Hammond" wrote: > > To anyone interested with some background in working with Biodiesel, > > I'm setting up a display promoting Stirling engines (particularly > related to Solar Thermal applications) at the Sacramento Municipal > Utilities District (SMUD) Energy Symposium in central California area on > Saturday, February 2nd. It would be great if someone was interested in > sharing information on BIODIESEL and sharing the booth with me. THERE IS > NO CHARGE AS IT"S NON-PROFIT BOOTH. I'm not selling anything and you can't > either, only promote a viable technology. I know they're looking for > someone to exhibit Biodiesel too. The booth apparently is two sided with > 8' (or 10') tables on either side. It's a great way to network with folks > too. I have some literature on Biodiesel (kindly supplied from the > National Biodiesel Board), but I won't be able to talk too much on it as > I'm going to focus on Stirling engine technology. > > So if you're interested (or know another person who is), please > contact me. I don't know why I didn't think of this sooner. I'd be happy > to work with you on this. > > My general gameplan is to arrive at about 7:30 am at SMUD and be > set-up until about 2 or 2:30pm, but the energy symposium goes on until > about 4 pm. > > Again, if you're interested, please contact me (info below), and I > can give you more details. > > Sincerely, > Ryan > > > > R. Ryan Hammond > Graduate Research Assistant > Mechanical and Aeronautical Engineering > University of California, Davis > One Shields Avenue > Davis, CA 95616 > > Office Phone: 530 / 752-6519 > Home Phone: 530 / 297-6751 > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Biofuels at Journey to Forever > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > Biofuel at WebConX > http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ _ FindLaw - Free Case Law, Jobs, Library, Community http://www.FindLaw.com Get your FREE @JUSTICE.COM email! http://mail.Justice.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: What is a "good" BD yield from WVO?
Hi Turbo Think you should read Kens post again. Approx 12-14% of the volume of oil will be the amount of methanol used in the reaction. this displaces ABOUT the same volume of glycerine. If your oil is new and clean with low FFA's then if you add 20% of the volume of oil as methoxide you will get back 98% of the volume of oil as biodiesel. 2% of the volume of oil as unreacted oil which will be in suspension in the biod. 12 - 14% of the volume of oil as glycerine. 6 - 8 % of the volume of oil as excess methanol most of which will be disolved in the glycerine because as you found in the archives methanol dissolves more readily in glyc. than in bioD. remember this only applies to the excess methanol after the reaction - the 12-14% methanol which has been changed in the reaction is no longer methanol. You do need to add excess methanol otherwise the reaction will probably not be complete and you will also end up with a lot of unreacted oil. There will also be a small amount of soaps and caustic salts which will be both in the BioD and Glyc. BUT as ken said these figures are very flexible and this is just a rough guide. make some litre test batches from each new lot of oil and you will find out a lot. do a search for Dr Pepper(pat pend.) on this site http://biodiesel.infopop.net for the easy way to do test batches. - Original Message - From: "turbodiesel_vw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2002 4:18 Subject: [biofuel] Re: What is a "good" BD yield from WVO? > o.k.--fine, > > I'll try and answer my own question: > > According to the archieves glycerine is soluble in methanol. If you > add 20% Methanol of which about 14% is absorbed by the glcerine then > an ideal BD yield should be about 86% volume of WVO used. > > So if your yield is 80% or better your getting "good" BD yield! > > right? > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Remove email list
from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to:biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: unscribe Please remove me from the list. thanks, jnance >From: "Eng. Gabriel Romero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com >To: >Subject: [biofuel] Remove email list >Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 16:40:42 -0500 > > > > Please remove me from your biofuel email list. > > > > Thanks, > > gabriel romero > > > > > > _ Join the worldâs largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] biodiesel taxes in spain, the summary
this is the summary i promished i'm not a lawyer, an this is a summary made from what i understand. i hope is clear and helpful enough, please tell me if you need further information. salutations Manolo Roln Valencia, Spain http://www27.blinkster/manolorolan -- 1.-main statement: everyting used as fuel, as aditive, or to increase it's volume should pay it's tax, actually 269,86 euros each 1000 liters. (Law 38/1992 december 28th, special taxes.article 46) http://noticias.juridicas.com/base_datos/Vacatio/v0-l38- 1992.t1.html#a46 --- 2.-exemtions: it's posible to ask for an exemption in case of research projects with the goal of obtain less polluting fuels. this article includes the use of used oils, ethanol, modified oils, etc so it afects to the use of SVO too. (Law 38/1992 december 28th, special taxes.article 51) http://noticias.juridicas.com/base_datos/Vacatio/v0-l38- 1992.t1.html#a51 to ask for the exemtion you should fill an application form, with a memorandum of the project explaining the full process, products used, quantity to be produced. they can ask you for aditional information and the exemption could be granted up to five years. (royal decree 1165/1995, july 7th ,special taxes rules, article 105) http://noticias.juridicas.com/base_datos/Fiscal/rd1165- 1995.t1.html#a105 --- 3.- new tax over fuel resellers at the begining of this year a new tax has been established to every business that sells fuels to the final users, there is no exemtions to this tax, so biofuels should pay it. this is 24 euros for each 1000 liters (Law 24/2001, december 27th, article 9) http://noticias.juridicas.com/base_datos/Admin/l24-2001.t1.html#a9 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Methanol recovery unit
"movember" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Any suggestions for an off-the-shelf vacuum distillation unit for >recovering methanol from a home-built continuous processor? >If possible, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Preferably, send it here to the list - I'm sure a lot of members would be interested. Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] political crap
>Hello I dont understand , is this a area for bio fuel , or for points of >view ?? > >I am truely interested in any information that will help me make fuel , the >rest is just babel ?? > >Me : Harvey Sigh... Biofuels is a rather broad subject, making your own fuel is indeed part of that subject, and you'll find a great deal of information on this here, being posted all the time, and in the archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Your point of view is apparently that you want to make fuel, and, apparently, that any other point of view is just "babel" [sic]? So what would you like me to do, censor out everybody else's point of view but your own? What about, say, a message from a list member in Indonesia on processing coconuts into biofuel? That would help HIM make fuel, but not YOU, so that's also babble and I should censor it out so you're not disturbed? Maybe to him information on soy biodiesel that would fascinate you is just babble, eh? Anyway, you're perfectly free to decide for yourself what's babble and what's not, nobody's forcing you to read anything. There's a great diversity of views here, that's how it should be and that's how it'll remain. Best wishes Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ List owner Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
