Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time Historical Highest Level - Adjusted For Inflation

[Dawie Coetzee]

I think we need to rethink not so much the car as our pattern of transport 
needs and facilities. Granted, it isn't something that one person can implement 
unless they've got some practical authority: but if we live in places that 
claim to be democratic, the people who have got some practical authority are 
susceptible to public pressure, at least in theory. It doesn't preclude 
rethinking the car, but it's another important process. And it's no use putting 
it off because I can't build a city on my own. If the process doesn't begin 
somewhere it just won't begin at all.

So, one of these days I'm going to have a battle on my hands to get the City of 
Cape Town to allow me to build a house suitable for a pedestrian way of living 
(or at least if a few of my neighbours see the point and do the same) in a 
neighbourhood and a city designed to be barely accessible except by car. It's 
another way.

But greasy-fingered EVs are cool.

-D


- Original Message 
From: Darryl McMahon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Wednesday, 23 May, 2007 5:36:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time Historical Highest 
Level - Adjusted For Inflation


Ah, yes.  Wildman Rod rides again!  The Ford coupe is a beauty, if a tad
impractical for most applications.

I think we need to rethink the car before we try to open source it.  My
idea for a plug-in electric hybrid (biodiesel) has been picked up by
someone else with more resources and I hope to see the initial results
on Saturday.  Rumour has it a book will also come from the exercise (not
by me).  

However, we do need to revisit what we really need from a car today,
because I don't think the Ford Excursion fits the bill.  How about
quadricycles that can travel at urban speeds (up to 50 km/h), utilizing
a combination of human and electric power?  Or the Twike?  Lot's of
other light-weighting options.  Less resources to construct and operate,
no toxic emissions in operation (well almost; there will be some CO2
GHGs from the breathing of the operators).

By comparison, the Smart is a fuel-guzzling pig boasting excessive
performance.

I have my vintage motorcycle operational again, thanks to my son's
efforts.  A 1973 Aurenthetic Charger. 
(http://www.econogics.com/ev/auranthe.htm) 
Factory original electric mini-motorcycle.  Gets almost 50 km to the
kWh.  

Much better than the road-racer 1973 electric Porsche 914 that pigs out
at 5 km to the kWh.  (If I did the math right, that's about 185 mpg, so
the motorcycle is getting well over 1500 mpg.  According to this article
in Grist , walking gets about 75
mpg equivalent.  An electric-assist bicycle would get about 3000 mpg
equivalent.)  Tilled the garden on the weekend with an electric tractor.
Just bought a small, cordless electric rototiller for my mother - she
loves it.

Gasoline is only expensive if you use it.  Go electric and green your
electricity.  Buy locally.  We know the answers, the rest is
rationalizations and convenience.  Yes, it does take some effort to put
it all into practice, and I'm still on the path and far from the goal. 
My advice, make the shift to sustainable practices while fossil energy
is still cheap.

Darryl

Dawie Coetzee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hey Zeke, are you familiar with this one?
> http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/renewables/wilde/sterfo1.htm -D
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: Zeke Yewdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 May, 2007 4:42:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time Historical
Highest
> Level - Adjusted For Inflation
> 
> Wha??  I did have to replace the radio in my '91 VW because after
I
> replaced the battery, it went into security mode and wouldn't turn on
again. 
> And I refused to go to the dealership to have them fix that.  I
suppose I was
> supposed to take it there to get the battery replaced to begin with...

> 
> This is why I am building my own electric cars.  One from a 1974
pickup, and
> one from a recumbent bicycle (if I lived on the flatland, the regular
bicycle
> itself would be fine but pedling up 4,000 feet in elevation gets
tiring at
> times and I'd like electric assist -- solar recharged, of course) 
> 
> Z
> 
> 
> On 5/22/07, Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe an open source car?
> The problem with new cars is that they can't be fixed.  I knew someone
> who got a new BMW 540 and it was replaced by insurance after the radio
was
> stolen.  Wiring and electronics too messed up to fix.  80k disposable
car! 
> 
> 
> 
> Dawie Coetzee wrote:
> 
> > The problem I've got with the Smart is that it embodies the motor
> > industry's kind of closed-technology, capital-intensive,
> > disposable, owner-unfixable, economies-of-scale-sensitive approach
as 
> > much any other new car: possibly even more. I've often wondered if
it
> > can be corrected by a few minor tweaks, but ever

[Biofuel] Advice to do-gooders: don't go to Africa - Calgary Herald - 2007.05.20

[Darryl McMahon]

Advice to do-gooders: don't go to Africa; Author warns of wasted aid
efforts
The Calgary Herald
Sun 20 May 2007
Page: B6
Section: City & Observer
Byline: Sheila Rowe
Source: For The Calgary Herald
Series: Intelligent Aid
Edition: Final
Story Type: Series
Length: 915 words
Illustration: Colour Photo: Sheila Rowe, For The Calgary Herald /
Critics of foreign aid programs to africa wonder how $2.3 trillion could
have been spent over the
past five decades yet getting 12-cent medicine to children to fight
malaria has failed. ;
Calgarian Sheila Rowe travelled to Kenya recently to
observe the work of several non-profit organizations.
Award-winning journalist Stephanie Nolen doesn't
mince words.
When the author of 28, Stories of AIDS in Africa,
spoke recently to a capacity crowd at Calgary's
Glenbow Museum, she had advice for volunteers
keen to visit Africa.
"You need to stay home," Nolen says.
"Some of these places face 65 per cent
unemployment. Volunteerism is great for the people
who come, but it's not so great for the people you
come for."
Nolen believes letters objecting to things like unfair
trade practices work better than a stream of
do-gooders heading overseas.
"Charity is rewarding, social justice isn't. Writing 10
letters isn't fun."
One brave soul at the back of the room objected to
the travel ban. Fresh from a voluntary medical trip to
Africa, she says telling her stories raises awareness in
Canada . . . reason enough to go.
Nolen softens slightly -- medical personnel are the
one exception to her wrath against volunteers.
"But how much did it cost to send you? How many
qualified Africans could be hired for the same
amount. They'd have done as much as you did,"
Nolen says.
n n n
It isn't easy being kind these days.
When Oprah Winfrey opened her $40-million South
African boarding school in January 2007, reaction
was swift. Why establish a luxurious, elitist
institution to serve so few girls -- 125 now with a
goal of 450 students?
And why separate girls from their communities when
community is one of the greatest African strengths?
Winfrey's response was quoted by the Boston Globe:
"I understand that many in the (South African) school
system feel that I'm going overboard, and that's fine.
This is what I wanted to do."
Oprah is not alone in both personal generosity and
her insistence on doing it her way.
The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has
committed $35 billion to African development.
Warren Buffett added $31 billion. First, it was
vaccinations, now agricultural development -- what
Gates hopes will start a "virtuous cycle" of
productivity to address African hunger and poverty.
"There's no doubt there are parts of Africa where this
will be successful," Bill Gates told the Seattle Times.
Others aren't so sure.
William Easterly, a professor of economics at New
York University and author of The White Man's
Burden (Why the West's Efforts to Aid the Rest Have
Done So Much Ill and So Little Good) writes of "the
tragedy in which the West spent $2.3 trillion on
foreign aid over the last five decades and still had not
managed to get 12-cent medicines to children to
prevent half of all malaria deaths."
Easterly decries "the legend of development" pursued
by those he calls "planners."
"Don't expect a Big Plan to reform foreign aid," he
writes. "The only Big Plan is to discontinue the Big
Plans. The only Big Answer is that there is no Big
Answer."
Easterly applauds the "searchers" who "experiment
and come up with smaller, but more useful, initiatives
that outsiders can do to help the poor."
They employ, "ruthless testing to see if they really
work," they are patient with gradual, piecemeal
reform, and they recognize that the best "searchers"
are often the poor themselves.
At best, aid should be a short-term stopgap to meet
the most desperate needs of the poor, says Easterly,
but only until the real answer arrives: "homegrown,
market-based development."
The idea, Easterly says, is "not to abandon aid to the
poor, but to make sure it reaches them."
The concern is well-founded.
Not only are "social entrepreneurs" like Oprah
criticized for following agendas outside the context
of African values, but government-to-government aid
fails, too.
The recent Canadian Senate report on the Canadian
International Development Agency (CIDA) is
entitled Overcoming 40 Years of Failure: A New
Road for Sub-Saharan Africa.
The reports cites $12.4 billion spent by CIDA in the
area since 1968 . . . with little to show for it.
Robert Calderisi, an author and former World Bank
official, dares to question African responsibility for
African problems.
In The Trouble with Africa: Why Foreign Aid Isn't
Working, Calderisi writes: "Over a period of 40
years, Africa has failed to develop. Even worse, its
political and intellectual leaders still blame the
continent's problems on factors as varied as an unjust
international economic system, the slave trade,
colonialism, the Cold War, crushing debt burdens and
even basic geography. On close examinat

[Biofuel] e-DirtSurfer (was US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time Historic Highest Level - Adjusted For Inflation)

[Darryl McMahon]

Why not?  Looks like we could tuck a flat pack under the foot board
between the rails.  Definitely a hub motor in one of the wheels.  Might
need some custom spokes.  What's the size of the rim?  A wired hand
control for speed regulation.  

Are you going to carry the ghetto blaster, or do I have to figure out
how to mount that as well?

Darryl

Joe Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hey Darryl;
> 
> What about adding a wheelmotor to a dirtsurfer?  That would be my ride

> of choice...surfing the trails and sidewalks with style. 
> http://www.dirtsurfer.com/
> Would have to factor in some extra battery capacity for some sort of 
> ghetto blaster.  Gotta have tunes to ride the groovelol
> 
> 
> Joe
> 
> Darryl McMahon wrote:
> 
> >Ah, yes.  Wildman Rod rides again!  The Ford coupe is a beauty, if a
tad
> >impractical for most applications.
> >
> >I think we need to rethink the car before we try to open source it. 
My
> >idea for a plug-in electric hybrid (biodiesel) has been picked up by
> >someone else with more resources and I hope to see the initial
results
> >on Saturday.  Rumour has it a book will also come from the exercise
(not
> >by me).  
> >
> >However, we do need to revisit what we really need from a car today,
> >because I don't think the Ford Excursion fits the bill.  How about
> >quadricycles that can travel at urban speeds (up to 50 km/h),
utilizing
> >a combination of human and electric power?  Or the Twike?  Lot's of
> >other light-weighting options.  Less resources to construct and
operate,
> >no toxic emissions in operation (well almost; there will be some CO2
> >GHGs from the breathing of the operators).
> >
> >By comparison, the Smart is a fuel-guzzling pig boasting excessive
> >performance.
> >
> >I have my vintage motorcycle operational again, thanks to my son's
> >efforts.  A 1973 Aurenthetic Charger. 
> >(http://www.econogics.com/ev/auranthe.htm) 
> >Factory original electric mini-motorcycle.  Gets almost 50 km to the
> >kWh.  
> >
> >Much better than the road-racer 1973 electric Porsche 914 that pigs
out
> >at 5 km to the kWh.  (If I did the math right, that's about 185 mpg,
so
> >the motorcycle is getting well over 1500 mpg.  According to this
article
> >in Grist , walking gets about
75
> >mpg equivalent.  An electric-assist bicycle would get about 3000 mpg
> >equivalent.)  Tilled the garden on the weekend with an electric
tractor.
> > Just bought a small, cordless electric rototiller for my mother -
she
> >loves it.
> >
> >Gasoline is only expensive if you use it.  Go electric and green your
> >electricity.  Buy locally.  We know the answers, the rest is
> >rationalizations and convenience.  Yes, it does take some effort to
put
> >it all into practice, and I'm still on the path and far from the
goal. 
> >My advice, make the shift to sustainable practices while fossil
energy
> >is still cheap.
> >
> >Darryl
> >
> >Dawie Coetzee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Hey Zeke, are you familiar with this one?
> >>http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/renewables/wilde/sterfo1.htm -D
> >>
> >>
> >>- Original Message 
> >>From: Zeke Yewdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> >>Sent: Wednesday, 23 May, 2007 4:42:18 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time
Historical
> >>
> >>
> >Highest
> >  
> >
> >>Level - Adjusted For Inflation
> >>
> >>Wha??  I did have to replace the radio in my '91 VW because
after
> >>
> >>
> >I
> >  
> >
> >>replaced the battery, it went into security mode and wouldn't turn
on
> >>
> >>
> >again. 
> >  
> >
> >>And I refused to go to the dealership to have them fix that.  I
> >>
> >>
> >suppose I was
> >  
> >
> >>supposed to take it there to get the battery replaced to begin
with...
> >>
> >>
> >
> >  
> >
> >>This is why I am building my own electric cars.  One from a 1974
> >>
> >>
> >pickup, and
> >  
> >
> >>one from a recumbent bicycle (if I lived on the flatland, the
regular
> >>
> >>
> >bicycle
> >  
> >
> >>itself would be fine but pedling up 4,000 feet in elevation gets
> >>
> >>
> >tiring at
> >  
> >
> >>times and I'd like electric assist -- solar recharged, of course) 
> >>
> >>Z
> >>
> >>
> >>On 5/22/07, Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>Maybe an open source car?
> >>The problem with new cars is that they can't be fixed.  I knew
someone
> >>who got a new BMW 540 and it was replaced by insurance after the
radio
> >>
> >>
> >was
> >  
> >
> >>stolen.  Wiring and electronics too messed up to fix.  80k
disposable
> >>
> >>
> >car! 
> >  
> >
> >>
> >>Dawie Coetzee wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>The problem I've got with the Smart is that it embodies the motor
> >>>industry's kind of closed-technology, capital-intensive,
> >>>disposable, owner-unfixable, economies-of-scale-sensitive approach
> >>>  
> >>>
> >as 
> >  
> >
> >>>much any other new car: possibly even more. I've often wondered if

Re: [Biofuel] Newbie Seeking Diesel Van Recommendations

[Joe Street]

Look for a mitsubishi delica.  A buddy of mine just imported one with 
low miles from Japan.  He loves it.


Joe

Luke Kareklas wrote:

Hello All, 

I am a Kid's Birthday Party Entertainer, as well as a Juggler, 
Magician, and "Balloon Guy."


I live in the Midwest, and have all 4 seasons during the year, if this 
is a helpful bit of information. 
 
Lately my entertainment business has gotten really busy and it's come 
time for me to buy a larger vehicle. I have been a fan of alternative 
fuels for years, but never pursued a diesel vehicle.


I would like recommendations on what type of deisel van would you 
recommend that would most easily transfer over to a SVO, WVO, or 
biodiesel system for me to drive? I am looking for a 1/2 or 3/4 ton 
van, not really a "minivan" type of vehicle.


Again, I am naive and new to all this and hope your thoughts will help 
ground me and get me pointed in the right direction. I guess I have 
to go buy a diesel vehicle before I can get moving on SVO, WVO, or 
Biodiesel fueling, right?

Thank you very much.

Luke
 


Luke Kareklas
*Luke the Juggler*
*614-764-8010*

www.LuketheJuggler.com 



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Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time Historical Highest Level - Adjusted For Inflation

[Joe Street]

Hey Darryl;

What about adding a wheelmotor to a dirtsurfer?  That would be my ride 
of choice...surfing the trails and sidewalks with style. 
http://www.dirtsurfer.com/
Would have to factor in some extra battery capacity for some sort of 
ghetto blaster.  Gotta have tunes to ride the groovelol



Joe

Darryl McMahon wrote:


Ah, yes.  Wildman Rod rides again!  The Ford coupe is a beauty, if a tad
impractical for most applications.

I think we need to rethink the car before we try to open source it.  My
idea for a plug-in electric hybrid (biodiesel) has been picked up by
someone else with more resources and I hope to see the initial results
on Saturday.  Rumour has it a book will also come from the exercise (not
by me).  


However, we do need to revisit what we really need from a car today,
because I don't think the Ford Excursion fits the bill.  How about
quadricycles that can travel at urban speeds (up to 50 km/h), utilizing
a combination of human and electric power?  Or the Twike?  Lot's of
other light-weighting options.  Less resources to construct and operate,
no toxic emissions in operation (well almost; there will be some CO2
GHGs from the breathing of the operators).

By comparison, the Smart is a fuel-guzzling pig boasting excessive
performance.

I have my vintage motorcycle operational again, thanks to my son's
efforts.  A 1973 Aurenthetic Charger. 
(http://www.econogics.com/ev/auranthe.htm) 
Factory original electric mini-motorcycle.  Gets almost 50 km to the
kWh.  


Much better than the road-racer 1973 electric Porsche 914 that pigs out
at 5 km to the kWh.  (If I did the math right, that's about 185 mpg, so
the motorcycle is getting well over 1500 mpg.  According to this article
in Grist , walking gets about 75
mpg equivalent.  An electric-assist bicycle would get about 3000 mpg
equivalent.)  Tilled the garden on the weekend with an electric tractor.
Just bought a small, cordless electric rototiller for my mother - she
loves it.

Gasoline is only expensive if you use it.  Go electric and green your
electricity.  Buy locally.  We know the answers, the rest is
rationalizations and convenience.  Yes, it does take some effort to put
it all into practice, and I'm still on the path and far from the goal. 
My advice, make the shift to sustainable practices while fossil energy

is still cheap.

Darryl

Dawie Coetzee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 


Hey Zeke, are you familiar with this one?
http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/renewables/wilde/sterfo1.htm -D


- Original Message 
From: Zeke Yewdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Wednesday, 23 May, 2007 4:42:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time Historical
   


Highest
 


Level - Adjusted For Inflation

Wha??  I did have to replace the radio in my '91 VW because after
   


I
 


replaced the battery, it went into security mode and wouldn't turn on
   

again. 
 


And I refused to go to the dealership to have them fix that.  I
   


suppose I was
 


supposed to take it there to get the battery replaced to begin with...
   



 


This is why I am building my own electric cars.  One from a 1974
   


pickup, and
 


one from a recumbent bicycle (if I lived on the flatland, the regular
   


bicycle
 


itself would be fine but pedling up 4,000 feet in elevation gets
   


tiring at
 

times and I'd like electric assist -- solar recharged, of course) 


Z


On 5/22/07, Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Maybe an open source car?
The problem with new cars is that they can't be fixed.  I knew someone
who got a new BMW 540 and it was replaced by insurance after the radio
   


was
 


stolen.  Wiring and electronics too messed up to fix.  80k disposable
   

car! 
 



Dawie Coetzee wrote:

   


The problem I've got with the Smart is that it embodies the motor
industry's kind of closed-technology, capital-intensive,
disposable, owner-unfixable, economies-of-scale-sensitive approach
 

as 
 


much any other new car: possibly even more. I've often wondered if
 


it
 


can be corrected by a few minor tweaks, but every time I've done
 


that
 


exercise I've found that I'd very early cast out every last vestige
 

of 
 


the Smart and designed an Austin Seven instead!

Also, the Smart's brief is to do the job that ought to be done by
walking. -D

- Original Message 
From: Mike Weaver < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Monday, 21 May, 2007 11:28:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time
 

Historical 
 


Highest Level - Adjusted For Inflation

Still, this morning as I went into the city in my relatively small
 


VW
 


Biodiesel Golf, I saw hundreds of single occupant SUVs
pass me.  Why don't we have smart cars in the US?  I don't even need
 

a 
 


VW most of the time.  All I need to carry is a few computers and a
tools.


Keith Addison wrote:

  

[Biofuel] Newbie Seeking Diesel Van Recommendations

[Luke Kareklas]

Hello All, 

I am a Kid's Birthday Party Entertainer, as well as a Juggler, Magician, and 
"Balloon Guy."

I live in the Midwest, and have all 4 seasons during the year, if this is a 
helpful bit of information. 

Lately my entertainment business has gotten really busy and it's come time for 
me to buy a larger vehicle. I have been a fan of alternative fuels for years, 
but never pursued a diesel vehicle. 

I would like recommendations on what type of deisel van would you recommend 
that would most easily transfer over to a SVO, WVO, or biodiesel system for me 
to drive? I am looking for a 1/2 or 3/4 ton van, not really a "minivan" type of 
vehicle. 

Again, I am naive and new to all this and hope your thoughts will help ground 
me and get me pointed in the right direction. I guess I have to go buy a diesel 
vehicle before I can get moving on SVO, WVO, or Biodiesel fueling, right? 
Thank you very much. 

Luke
 
Luke Kareklas
Luke the Juggler
614-764-8010
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Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time Historical Highest Level - Adjusted For Inflation

[John Beale]

Speaking of disposable cars:
My ex-girlfriend's parents purchased a new Mercedes-Benz E-class and  
when Mercedes shipped the car, the in-dash navigation systems (which  
her parents ordered) were not available yet, so they provided them with  
another E-class without the navigation system temporarilly. After a  
couple months, the navigation system was ready and her parents went to  
the dealer to have it installed, but the designers over in Germany  
somehow managed to design a navigation system too large for the space  
that it was intended to fit -- so they provided her parents with a  
brand new car instead. Well, after a few days with the new car, it was  
obvious that the electronics system was faulty, so Mercedes replaced  
the entire car AGAIN.
Very good customer service, but what a disregard for resources!
(Though I'm positive they were able to refurbish and sell the  
slightly-used cars)

So, all-in-all: (1) the E-class car they originally owned; (2) the  
E-class they purchased but was shipped without the navigation system;  
(3) the E-class that had a navigation system, but whose electronics  
were faulty; (4) the E-class that had both a navigation system and a  
working electrical system.
4 Mercedes-Benzes in one summer.

John




On May 22, 2007, at 11:54 AM, Mike Weaver wrote:

> Maybe an open source car?
> The problem with new cars is that they can't be fixed.  I knew someone
> who got a new BMW 540 and it was replaced by insurance after the radio  
> was
> stolen.  Wiring and electronics too messed up to fix.  80k disposable  
> car!
>
>
>
> Dawie Coetzee wrote:
>
>> The problem I've got with the Smart is that it embodies the motor
>> industry's kind of closed-technology, capital-intensive,
>> disposable, owner-unfixable, economies-of-scale-sensitive approach as
>> much any other new car: possibly even more. I've often wondered if it
>> can be corrected by a few minor tweaks, but every time I've done that
>> exercise I've found that I'd very early cast out every last vestige of
>> the Smart and designed an Austin Seven instead!
>>
>> Also, the Smart's brief is to do the job that ought to be done by
>> walking. -D
>>
>> - Original Message 
>> From: Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>> Sent: Monday, 21 May, 2007 11:28:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time Historical
>> Highest Level - Adjusted For Inflation
>>
>> Still, this morning as I went into the city in my relatively small VW
>> Biodiesel Golf, I saw hundreds of single occupant SUVs
>> pass me.  Why don't we have smart cars in the US?  I don't even need a
>> VW most of the time.  All I need to carry is a few computers and a
>> tools.
>>
>>
>> Keith Addison wrote:
>>
>>> If you put a bit more effort into it I'm sure you can hit $10 a
>> gallon soon.
>>>
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ 
>>> msg69797.html
>>> Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Gas Station Owner Told to Raise Prices
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Keith
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
 US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time Historical Highest Level - Adjusted
 For Inflation

 US average, self-serve, unleaded regular hits $3.18

 This is a point we have been dreading. Before this,
 the all time highest US average gasoline (regular) price
 was during 1981 (March IIRC). Adjusted for inflation,
 we finally topped it, and appear to be still climbing at a
 steady pace. It was announced on the news yesterday
 (Sunday) on PBS.

 CNN verifies it, today:
 http://money.cnn.com/2007/05/21/news/economy/record_gas_monday/

 Here is a webpage, anticipating it, but not being able
 to anticipate what the number would be, or when it
 would get reached:
 http://www.answers.com/topic/oil-price-increases-of-2004-2006

 We got close in 2006
 http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2006/07/gas_prices_allt.html

 We got closer, earlier this month:
 http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=21867

 http://zfacts.com/p/35.html

 This website that was set up to say "gasoline is cheap"
 now shows that today it has gotten expensive, by their
 standards. http://www.nationalreview.com/moore/moore082803chart.asp

 http://infohost.nmt.edu/~armiller/gasprices.htm
>> 

 This one will give you an idea of the kind of misleading
 verse that we were being fed by Washington, and that
 some propagandists still spout, even in the face of reality.
 http://www.cted.wa.gov/energy/archive/Indicators99/Indicator24.htm

 Here is a radical, George Will, trying to make fun of
 the concern about gasoline prices, just last month. However,
 since then, the pump price has gone up 18% (since last month)
 and is now at the highest price in history, both in actual dollars,
 and also in inflation adjusted dollars.
 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time Historical Highest Level - Adjusted For Inflation

[Darryl McMahon]

Ah, yes.  Wildman Rod rides again!  The Ford coupe is a beauty, if a tad
impractical for most applications.

I think we need to rethink the car before we try to open source it.  My
idea for a plug-in electric hybrid (biodiesel) has been picked up by
someone else with more resources and I hope to see the initial results
on Saturday.  Rumour has it a book will also come from the exercise (not
by me).  

However, we do need to revisit what we really need from a car today,
because I don't think the Ford Excursion fits the bill.  How about
quadricycles that can travel at urban speeds (up to 50 km/h), utilizing
a combination of human and electric power?  Or the Twike?  Lot's of
other light-weighting options.  Less resources to construct and operate,
no toxic emissions in operation (well almost; there will be some CO2
GHGs from the breathing of the operators).

By comparison, the Smart is a fuel-guzzling pig boasting excessive
performance.

I have my vintage motorcycle operational again, thanks to my son's
efforts.  A 1973 Aurenthetic Charger. 
(http://www.econogics.com/ev/auranthe.htm) 
Factory original electric mini-motorcycle.  Gets almost 50 km to the
kWh.  

Much better than the road-racer 1973 electric Porsche 914 that pigs out
at 5 km to the kWh.  (If I did the math right, that's about 185 mpg, so
the motorcycle is getting well over 1500 mpg.  According to this article
in Grist , walking gets about 75
mpg equivalent.  An electric-assist bicycle would get about 3000 mpg
equivalent.)  Tilled the garden on the weekend with an electric tractor.
 Just bought a small, cordless electric rototiller for my mother - she
loves it.

Gasoline is only expensive if you use it.  Go electric and green your
electricity.  Buy locally.  We know the answers, the rest is
rationalizations and convenience.  Yes, it does take some effort to put
it all into practice, and I'm still on the path and far from the goal. 
My advice, make the shift to sustainable practices while fossil energy
is still cheap.

Darryl

Dawie Coetzee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hey Zeke, are you familiar with this one?
> http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/renewables/wilde/sterfo1.htm -D
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: Zeke Yewdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 May, 2007 4:42:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time Historical
Highest
> Level - Adjusted For Inflation
> 
> Wha??  I did have to replace the radio in my '91 VW because after
I
> replaced the battery, it went into security mode and wouldn't turn on
again. 
> And I refused to go to the dealership to have them fix that.  I
suppose I was
> supposed to take it there to get the battery replaced to begin with...

> 
> This is why I am building my own electric cars.  One from a 1974
pickup, and
> one from a recumbent bicycle (if I lived on the flatland, the regular
bicycle
> itself would be fine but pedling up 4,000 feet in elevation gets
tiring at
> times and I'd like electric assist -- solar recharged, of course) 
> 
> Z
> 
> 
> On 5/22/07, Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe an open source car?
> The problem with new cars is that they can't be fixed.  I knew someone
> who got a new BMW 540 and it was replaced by insurance after the radio
was
> stolen.  Wiring and electronics too messed up to fix.  80k disposable
car! 
> 
> 
> 
> Dawie Coetzee wrote:
> 
> > The problem I've got with the Smart is that it embodies the motor
> > industry's kind of closed-technology, capital-intensive,
> > disposable, owner-unfixable, economies-of-scale-sensitive approach
as 
> > much any other new car: possibly even more. I've often wondered if
it
> > can be corrected by a few minor tweaks, but every time I've done
that
> > exercise I've found that I'd very early cast out every last vestige
of 
> > the Smart and designed an Austin Seven instead!
> >
> > Also, the Smart's brief is to do the job that ought to be done by
> > walking. -D
> >
> > - Original Message 
> > From: Mike Weaver < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> > Sent: Monday, 21 May, 2007 11:28:29 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time
Historical 
> > Highest Level - Adjusted For Inflation
> >
> > Still, this morning as I went into the city in my relatively small
VW
> > Biodiesel Golf, I saw hundreds of single occupant SUVs
> > pass me.  Why don't we have smart cars in the US?  I don't even need
a 
> > VW most of the time.  All I need to carry is a few computers and a
> > tools.
> >
> >
> > Keith Addison wrote:
> >
> > >If you put a bit more effort into it I'm sure you can hit $10 a 
> > gallon soon.
> > >
> >
>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg69797.html
> > >Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Gas Station Owner Told to Raise Prices 
> > >
> > >Best
> > >
> > >Keith
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time Historical Highest Level

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time Historical Highest Level - Adjusted For Inflation

[Zeke Yewdall]

Hadn't seen that one.  I knew they had some previous electric race cars with
similar setups for the drivetrain -- a mazda somethingorother I think.  But
hadn't seen the hotrod.

On 5/23/07, Dawie Coetzee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hey Zeke, are you familiar with this one?
http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/renewables/wilde/sterfo1.htm -D

- Original Message 
From: Zeke Yewdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Wednesday, 23 May, 2007 4:42:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time Historical
Highest Level - Adjusted For Inflation

Wha??  I did have to replace the radio in my '91 VW because after I
replaced the battery, it went into security mode and wouldn't turn on
again.  And I refused to go to the dealership to have them fix that.  I
suppose I was supposed to take it there to get the battery replaced to begin
with...

This is why I am building my own electric cars.  One from a 1974 pickup,
and one from a recumbent bicycle (if I lived on the flatland, the regular
bicycle itself would be fine but pedling up 4,000 feet in elevation gets
tiring at times and I'd like electric assist -- solar recharged, of course)

Z

On 5/22/07, Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Maybe an open source car?
> The problem with new cars is that they can't be fixed.  I knew someone
> who got a new BMW 540 and it was replaced by insurance after the radio
> was
> stolen.  Wiring and electronics too messed up to fix.  80k disposable
> car!
>
>
>
> Dawie Coetzee wrote:
>
> > The problem I've got with the Smart is that it embodies the motor
> > industry's kind of closed-technology, capital-intensive,
> > disposable, owner-unfixable, economies-of-scale-sensitive approach as
> > much any other new car: possibly even more. I've often wondered if it
> > can be corrected by a few minor tweaks, but every time I've done that
> > exercise I've found that I'd very early cast out every last vestige of
>
> > the Smart and designed an Austin Seven instead!
> >
> > Also, the Smart's brief is to do the job that ought to be done by
> > walking. -D
> >
> > - Original Message 
> > From: Mike Weaver < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> > Sent: Monday, 21 May, 2007 11:28:29 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time Historical
>
> > Highest Level - Adjusted For Inflation
> >
> > Still, this morning as I went into the city in my relatively small VW
> > Biodiesel Golf, I saw hundreds of single occupant SUVs
> > pass me.  Why don't we have smart cars in the US?  I don't even need a
>
> > VW most of the time.  All I need to carry is a few computers and a
> > tools.
> >
> >
> > Keith Addison wrote:
> >
> > >If you put a bit more effort into it I'm sure you can hit $10 a
> > gallon soon.
> > >
> > >
> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg69797.html
> > >Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Gas Station Owner Told to Raise Prices
> > >
> > >Best
> > >
> > >Keith
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time Historical Highest Level - Adjusted
> > >>For Inflation
> > >>
> > >>US average, self-serve, unleaded regular hits $3.18
> > >>
> > >>This is a point we have been dreading. Before this,
> > >>the all time highest US average gasoline (regular) price
> > >>was during 1981 (March IIRC). Adjusted for inflation,
> > >>we finally topped it, and appear to be still climbing at a
> > >>steady pace. It was announced on the news yesterday
> > >>(Sunday) on PBS.
> > >>
> > >>CNN verifies it, today:
> > >>http://money.cnn.com/2007/05/21/news/economy/record_gas_monday/
> > >>
> > >>Here is a webpage, anticipating it, but not being able
> > >>to anticipate what the number would be, or when it
> > >>would get reached:
> > >> http://www.answers.com/topic/oil-price-increases-of-2004-2006
> > >>
> > >>We got close in 2006
> > >>http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2006/07/gas_prices_allt.html
> > >>
> > >>We got closer, earlier this month:
> > >>http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=21867
> > >>
> > >> http://zfacts.com/p/35.html
> > >>
> > >>This website that was set up to say "gasoline is cheap"
> > >>now shows that today it has gotten expensive, by their
> > >>standards. http://www.nationalreview.com/moore/moore082803chart.asp
> > >>
> > >> 
http://infohost.nmt.edu/~armiller/gasprices.htm
> > 
> > >>
> > >>This one will give you an idea of the kind of misleading
> > >>verse that we were being fed by Washington, and that
> > >>some propagandists still spout, even in the face of reality.
> > >> http://www.cted.wa.gov/energy/archive/Indicators99/Indicator24.htm
> > >>
> > >>Here is a radical, George Will, trying to make fun of
> > >>the concern about gasoline prices, just last month. However,
> > >>since then, the pump price has gone up 18% (since last month)
> > >>and is now at the highest price in history, both in actual 

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time Historical Highest Level - Adjusted For Inflation

[Dawie Coetzee]

Hey Zeke, are you familiar with this one? 
http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/renewables/wilde/sterfo1.htm -D


- Original Message 
From: Zeke Yewdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Wednesday, 23 May, 2007 4:42:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time Historical Highest 
Level - Adjusted For Inflation

Wha??  I did have to replace the radio in my '91 VW because after I 
replaced the battery, it went into security mode and wouldn't turn on again.  
And I refused to go to the dealership to have them fix that.  I suppose I was 
supposed to take it there to get the battery replaced to begin with... 

This is why I am building my own electric cars.  One from a 1974 pickup, and 
one from a recumbent bicycle (if I lived on the flatland, the regular bicycle 
itself would be fine but pedling up 4,000 feet in elevation gets tiring at 
times and I'd like electric assist -- solar recharged, of course) 

Z


On 5/22/07, Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Maybe an open source car?
The problem with new cars is that they can't be fixed.  I knew someone
who got a new BMW 540 and it was replaced by insurance after the radio was
stolen.  Wiring and electronics too messed up to fix.  80k disposable car! 



Dawie Coetzee wrote:

> The problem I've got with the Smart is that it embodies the motor
> industry's kind of closed-technology, capital-intensive,
> disposable, owner-unfixable, economies-of-scale-sensitive approach as 
> much any other new car: possibly even more. I've often wondered if it
> can be corrected by a few minor tweaks, but every time I've done that
> exercise I've found that I'd very early cast out every last vestige of 
> the Smart and designed an Austin Seven instead!
>
> Also, the Smart's brief is to do the job that ought to be done by
> walking. -D
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Mike Weaver < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> Sent: Monday, 21 May, 2007 11:28:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time Historical 
> Highest Level - Adjusted For Inflation
>
> Still, this morning as I went into the city in my relatively small VW
> Biodiesel Golf, I saw hundreds of single occupant SUVs
> pass me.  Why don't we have smart cars in the US?  I don't even need a 
> VW most of the time.  All I need to carry is a few computers and a
> tools.
>
>
> Keith Addison wrote:
>
> >If you put a bit more effort into it I'm sure you can hit $10 a 
> gallon soon.
> >
> >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg69797.html
> >Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Gas Station Owner Told to Raise Prices 
> >
> >Best
> >
> >Keith
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time Historical Highest Level - Adjusted
> >>For Inflation 
> >>
> >>US average, self-serve, unleaded regular hits $3.18
> >>
> >>This is a point we have been dreading. Before this,
> >>the all time highest US average gasoline (regular) price 
> >>was during 1981 (March IIRC). Adjusted for inflation,
> >>we finally topped it, and appear to be still climbing at a
> >>steady pace. It was announced on the news yesterday
> >>(Sunday) on PBS. 
> >>
> >>CNN verifies it, today:
> >>http://money.cnn.com/2007/05/21/news/economy/record_gas_monday/
> >> 
> >>Here is a webpage, anticipating it, but not being able
> >>to anticipate what the number would be, or when it
> >>would get reached:
> >> http://www.answers.com/topic/oil-price-increases-of-2004-2006
> >>
> >>We got close in 2006
> >>http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2006/07/gas_prices_allt.html 
> >>
> >>We got closer, earlier this month:
> >>http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=21867
> >>
> >> http://zfacts.com/p/35.html
> >>
> >>This website that was set up to say "gasoline is cheap"
> >>now shows that today it has gotten expensive, by their 
> >>standards. http://www.nationalreview.com/moore/moore082803chart.asp
> >>
> >> http://infohost.nmt.edu/~armiller/gasprices.htm
> 
> >>
> >>This one will give you an idea of the kind of misleading 
> >>verse that we were being fed by Washington, and that
> >>some propagandists still spout, even in the face of reality.
> >> http://www.cted.wa.gov/energy/archive/Indicators99/Indicator24.htm
> >>
> >>Here is a radical, George Will, trying to make fun of
> >>the concern about gasoline prices, just last month. However, 
> >>since then, the pump price has gone up 18% (since last month)
> >>and is now at the highest price in history, both in actual dollars,
> >>and also in inflation adjusted dollars.
> >>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/04/AR200
> >>7040402251.html
> >>
> >> http://jalopnik.com/cars/gas-prices/never-mind-the-4-per-gallon-heres
> >>-the-summer-road-trips-61124.php This one would be funny, if it 
> >>weren't so sad: from last month: Quote: "says Tom Kloza, chief oil
> >>analyst for the Oil Price Information Service, an energy consulting
> >>firm. "The re

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time Historical Highest Level - Adjusted For Inflation

[Zeke Yewdall]

Wha??  I did have to replace the radio in my '91 VW because after I
replaced the battery, it went into security mode and wouldn't turn on
again.  And I refused to go to the dealership to have them fix that.  I
suppose I was supposed to take it there to get the battery replaced to begin
with...

This is why I am building my own electric cars.  One from a 1974 pickup, and
one from a recumbent bicycle (if I lived on the flatland, the regular
bicycle itself would be fine but pedling up 4,000 feet in elevation gets
tiring at times and I'd like electric assist -- solar recharged, of course)

Z

On 5/22/07, Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Maybe an open source car?
The problem with new cars is that they can't be fixed.  I knew someone
who got a new BMW 540 and it was replaced by insurance after the radio was
stolen.  Wiring and electronics too messed up to fix.  80k disposable car!



Dawie Coetzee wrote:

> The problem I've got with the Smart is that it embodies the motor
> industry's kind of closed-technology, capital-intensive,
> disposable, owner-unfixable, economies-of-scale-sensitive approach as
> much any other new car: possibly even more. I've often wondered if it
> can be corrected by a few minor tweaks, but every time I've done that
> exercise I've found that I'd very early cast out every last vestige of
> the Smart and designed an Austin Seven instead!
>
> Also, the Smart's brief is to do the job that ought to be done by
> walking. -D
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> Sent: Monday, 21 May, 2007 11:28:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time Historical
> Highest Level - Adjusted For Inflation
>
> Still, this morning as I went into the city in my relatively small VW
> Biodiesel Golf, I saw hundreds of single occupant SUVs
> pass me.  Why don't we have smart cars in the US?  I don't even need a
> VW most of the time.  All I need to carry is a few computers and a
> tools.
>
>
> Keith Addison wrote:
>
> >If you put a bit more effort into it I'm sure you can hit $10 a
> gallon soon.
> >
> >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg69797.html
> >Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Gas Station Owner Told to Raise Prices
> >
> >Best
> >
> >Keith
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time Historical Highest Level - Adjusted
> >>For Inflation
> >>
> >>US average, self-serve, unleaded regular hits $3.18
> >>
> >>This is a point we have been dreading. Before this,
> >>the all time highest US average gasoline (regular) price
> >>was during 1981 (March IIRC). Adjusted for inflation,
> >>we finally topped it, and appear to be still climbing at a
> >>steady pace. It was announced on the news yesterday
> >>(Sunday) on PBS.
> >>
> >>CNN verifies it, today:
> >>http://money.cnn.com/2007/05/21/news/economy/record_gas_monday/
> >>
> >>Here is a webpage, anticipating it, but not being able
> >>to anticipate what the number would be, or when it
> >>would get reached:
> >>http://www.answers.com/topic/oil-price-increases-of-2004-2006
> >>
> >>We got close in 2006
> >>http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2006/07/gas_prices_allt.html
> >>
> >>We got closer, earlier this month:
> >>http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=21867
> >>
> >>http://zfacts.com/p/35.html
> >>
> >>This website that was set up to say "gasoline is cheap"
> >>now shows that today it has gotten expensive, by their
> >>standards. http://www.nationalreview.com/moore/moore082803chart.asp
> >>
> >>http://infohost.nmt.edu/~armiller/gasprices.htm
> 
> >>
> >>This one will give you an idea of the kind of misleading
> >>verse that we were being fed by Washington, and that
> >>some propagandists still spout, even in the face of reality.
> >>http://www.cted.wa.gov/energy/archive/Indicators99/Indicator24.htm
> >>
> >>Here is a radical, George Will, trying to make fun of
> >>the concern about gasoline prices, just last month. However,
> >>since then, the pump price has gone up 18% (since last month)
> >>and is now at the highest price in history, both in actual dollars,
> >>and also in inflation adjusted dollars.
> >>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/04/AR200
> >>7040402251.html
> >>
> >>http://jalopnik.com/cars/gas-prices/never-mind-the-4-per-gallon-heres
> >>-the-summer-road-trips-61124.php This one would be funny, if it
> >>weren't so sad: from last month: Quote: "says Tom Kloza, chief oil
> >>analyst for the Oil Price Information Service, an energy consulting
> >>firm. "The reality is that we're nearing the highs of the year, and
> >>within 30 days there will be more gasoline on the market The article
> >>was dated 4/25/2007, twenty six days ago, and the quote was from
> >>before that. Those prices better drop fast. Instead they have
> >>climbed about 15%. Here is an other quote from the deceptive
> >>"experts:" "The most recent Energy Dept. forecast, released

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time Historical Highest Level - Adjusted For Inflation

[Mike Weaver]

Maybe an open source car?
The problem with new cars is that they can't be fixed.  I knew someone 
who got a new BMW 540 and it was replaced by insurance after the radio was
stolen.  Wiring and electronics too messed up to fix.  80k disposable car!



Dawie Coetzee wrote:

> The problem I've got with the Smart is that it embodies the motor 
> industry's kind of closed-technology, capital-intensive, 
> disposable, owner-unfixable, economies-of-scale-sensitive approach as 
> much any other new car: possibly even more. I've often wondered if it 
> can be corrected by a few minor tweaks, but every time I've done that 
> exercise I've found that I'd very early cast out every last vestige of 
> the Smart and designed an Austin Seven instead!
>  
> Also, the Smart's brief is to do the job that ought to be done by 
> walking. -D
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> Sent: Monday, 21 May, 2007 11:28:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time Historical 
> Highest Level - Adjusted For Inflation
>
> Still, this morning as I went into the city in my relatively small VW
> Biodiesel Golf, I saw hundreds of single occupant SUVs
> pass me.  Why don't we have smart cars in the US?  I don't even need a
> VW most of the time.  All I need to carry is a few computers and a
> tools.
>
>
> Keith Addison wrote:
>
> >If you put a bit more effort into it I'm sure you can hit $10 a 
> gallon soon.
> >
> >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg69797.html
> >Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Gas Station Owner Told to Raise Prices
> >
> >Best
> >
> >Keith
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >>US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time Historical Highest Level - Adjusted
> >>For Inflation
> >>
> >>US average, self-serve, unleaded regular hits $3.18
> >>
> >>This is a point we have been dreading. Before this,
> >>the all time highest US average gasoline (regular) price
> >>was during 1981 (March IIRC). Adjusted for inflation,
> >>we finally topped it, and appear to be still climbing at a
> >>steady pace. It was announced on the news yesterday
> >>(Sunday) on PBS.
> >>
> >>CNN verifies it, today:
> >>http://money.cnn.com/2007/05/21/news/economy/record_gas_monday/
> >>
> >>Here is a webpage, anticipating it, but not being able
> >>to anticipate what the number would be, or when it
> >>would get reached:
> >>http://www.answers.com/topic/oil-price-increases-of-2004-2006
> >>
> >>We got close in 2006
> >>http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2006/07/gas_prices_allt.html
> >>
> >>We got closer, earlier this month:
> >>http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=21867
> >>
> >>http://zfacts.com/p/35.html
> >>
> >>This website that was set up to say "gasoline is cheap"
> >>now shows that today it has gotten expensive, by their
> >>standards. http://www.nationalreview.com/moore/moore082803chart.asp
> >>
> >>http://infohost.nmt.edu/~armiller/gasprices.htm 
> 
> >>
> >>This one will give you an idea of the kind of misleading
> >>verse that we were being fed by Washington, and that
> >>some propagandists still spout, even in the face of reality.
> >>http://www.cted.wa.gov/energy/archive/Indicators99/Indicator24.htm
> >>
> >>Here is a radical, George Will, trying to make fun of
> >>the concern about gasoline prices, just last month. However,
> >>since then, the pump price has gone up 18% (since last month)
> >>and is now at the highest price in history, both in actual dollars,
> >>and also in inflation adjusted dollars.
> >>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/04/AR200
> >>7040402251.html
> >>
> >>http://jalopnik.com/cars/gas-prices/never-mind-the-4-per-gallon-heres
> >>-the-summer-road-trips-61124.php This one would be funny, if it
> >>weren't so sad: from last month: Quote: "says Tom Kloza, chief oil
> >>analyst for the Oil Price Information Service, an energy consulting
> >>firm. "The reality is that we're nearing the highs of the year, and
> >>within 30 days there will be more gasoline on the market The article
> >>was dated 4/25/2007, twenty six days ago, and the quote was from
> >>before that. Those prices better drop fast. Instead they have
> >>climbed about 15%. Here is an other quote from the deceptive
> >>"experts:" "The most recent Energy Dept. forecast, released Apr.10,
> >>predicted retail regular gasoline prices would average $2.81 per
> >>gallon in the summer of 2007 (April-September)." We are already
> >>nearly 40% through that time, and prices are still climbing. Here is
> >>another one: ""We expect to see prices flatten around where they are
> >>now," says Douglas MacIntyre, senior oil analyst for the f
> >>ederal Energy Information Administration, part of the DOE. "More
> >>refinery outages and higher crude prices could push it to $3 Since
> >>then the price has climbed about 18%, to $3.18, the highest price in
> >>history. More: "experts say consumers are actually getting a bargain
>