[Biofuel] Ethanol Booms, Farmers Bust

2007-05-28 Thread Keith Addison
No mention of the role of subsidies and the resultant dumping on poor 
countries' markets, sad to say.

- Keith

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http://www.alternet.org/story/52073/

Ethanol Booms, Farmers Bust

By Lisa M. Hamilton, AlterNet
May 25, 2007

 From the news these days you'd think farmers have never had a better 
friend than ethanol. Headlines holler that corn prices are soaring 
and that at this moment farmers are planting more acres of corn than 
they have in the last 50 years. Reporters writing about the ethanol 
boom are throwing around words like gold rush, jackpot, and nirvana. 
But if you actually are a farmer, ethanol and the high corn prices it 
brings is looking less and less like a blessing -- and more like a 
curse.

In concept, corn ethanol could benefit American farmers. Anytime we 
as a country look to them to supply our daily needs, it's an 
opportunity for rural communities to win. The problem is that the 
boom is taking place in the same old agricultural economy, which 
works to the benefit of those on top: landlords, processors, and 
companies selling inputs like seeds and fertilizers. It's 
agribusiness as usual, and like always, farmers will finish last.

"Initially we all were excited by the high prices," said Troy Roush, 
a sixth-generation farmer who grows 2,600 acres of corn in central 
Indiana. "But the truth is that the farmers won't keep any of it. 
There's an old saying that expenses will always rise to meet revenue. 
It all gets built in."

And that's exactly what has happened: As the price of corn has gone 
up, so has the cost of growing it. In just two months, the price 
Roush paid for fertilizer doubled. And speculation has driven land 
prices through the roof. "It's insane," Roush said. "In the last four 
months our land values have increased 40 percent. We're all sitting 
around wondering if it's real."

While most farmers own some land, the vast majority rent part or all 
of their acreage. Rents already swelled in some areas for this 
season, and farmers are bracing themselves for an even greater 
increase in 2008. A study by the Illinois Society of Professional 
Farm Managers and Rural Appraisers forecast that if corn prices stay 
high, rent for prime farmland next year will rise by 19 percent -- to 
218 dollars an acre. For young farmers, something rural America 
desperately needs, such inflation can make getting into the business 
impossible.

It is true that ethanol can offer farmers more control in the market 
through cooperative ownership of production plants. But thanks to the 
recent boom, corporate investors from around the world are now 
building plants that dwarf the farmer co-ops of the 1990s. And in the 
rush to meet the government's renewable fuel mandate, most incentives 
no longer favor farmer-owned plants.

In this new marketplace many farmer co-ops have cashed out, selling 
themselves partially or entirely to outside investors. According to 
the American Coalition for Ethanol, of the 75 plants slated for 
construction over the next two years only 25 percent are 
farmer-owned, and even those are often run in part by non-farmers 
from Des Moines and Chicago.

Without ownership of ethanol plants, farmers return to being mere 
workers in service of a volatile market. While the price of corn may 
be at a glorious four dollars a bushel now, when it evaporates 
farmers will likely be left to pay for costs that reflect a boom but 
profits that reflect a bust. Considering that much of the biofuels 
industry is already calling corn an archaic fuel source, looking 
forward instead to cellulosic ethanol, this crash is bound to happen 
within the next few years. To Roush and his colleagues it's beginning 
to feel ominously like the lead-up to the farm crisis of the 1980s, 
when high times led to unsustainable debt. They fear that the near 
future holds widespread foreclosure, not rural salvation.

To make matters worse, the boom is happening in a Farm Bill year. 
Congress is under tremendous pressure to peel back agricultural 
subsidies as they write the bill, and today's high corn prices and 
the promise of a bright, ethanol-powered future for farmers might 
give them the excuse to do so. Of course maintaining the subsidy 
system indefinitely isn't a solution, but the fact is that thousands 
of family farmers rely on those payments; to remove them without 
adequate replacement in such uncertain times could alone cause 
another farm crisis.

Despite all the problems it's causing, four-dollar corn itself is not 
the problem. In a sense it's actually a good thing, for it means 
farmers are getting closer to a fair price for their product. But a 
high price today doesn't ultimately benefit farmers if they remain in 
a system that allows the price to freefall tomorrow. What farmers 
need in order to rebuild their communities and secure their farm 
incomes is not an ethanol boom -- or any kind of boom for that 
matter. They need a system that offers a fair return for their 
product 

[Biofuel] Battle for biofuels drives world food prices higher

2007-05-28 Thread Keith Addison
Agricultural commodities ain't necessarily "food".

See:

http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg68246.html
Re: [Biofuel] DISTILLERY DEMAND FOR GRAIN TO FUEL CARS VASTLY UNDERSTATE

http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg68542.html
Re: [Biofuel] Chicken Little Strikes Again! CO2 is rising!C02 isrising!A

- Keith

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http://observer.guardian.co.uk/business/story/0,,2088808,00.html
| Business | The Observer
Battle for biofuels drives world food prices higher

Heather Stewart
Sunday May 27, 2007
The Observer

America's thirst for environmentally friendly biofuels is driving up 
food prices around the world as farmers scramble to devote more land 
to corn, writes Heather Stewart.

With the oil price back above $70 a barrel, biofuel looks 
increasingly attractive, and as more corn is grown to fill fuel 
tanks, the prices of other food crops are also being pushed up.

'The biggest impetus right now is the fact that the oil price is very 
high, and ethanol is very viable,' said Kona Haque, senior 
commodities editor at the Economist Intelligence Unit. 'It's a land 
issue: it's a competition for acreage. Countries are devoting an 
increasing amount of their land to fuel.' Even meat prices have been 
affected, as there is less land available to grow soybeans to feed 
livestock.

Almost a quarter of this year's US corn crop is expected to be turned 
into fuel. Drought in Australia has added to the food prices spike, 
which is feeding through to world inflation.


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[Biofuel] How America is betraying the hungry children of Africa

2007-05-28 Thread Keith Addison
Food vs fuel? US ethanol and tortilla riots?

Why are these people in Malawi growing maize and soy anyway? Hardly 
their best choice.

See also:

http://snipurl.com/rcij
[Biofuel] Bushfood

http://snipurl.com/rcik
[Biofuel] Myth: More US aid will help the hungry

http://snipurl.com/rcim
Re: [Biofuel] US Foreign aid
Food Dumping [Aid] Maintains Poverty

http://snipurl.com/rcig
[Biofuel] The US and Foreign Aid Assistance

http://snipurl.com/rcih
[Biofuel] Famines as Commercial Opportunity

http://snipurl.com/rcii
[Biofuel] Famine As Commerce

http://snipurl.com/rcin
[Biofuel] Inequality in wealth

- Keith



http://observer.guardian.co.uk/foodmonthly/story/0,,2086227,00.html
| Food monthly | The Observer

Special investigation

How America is betraying the hungry children of Africa

Edina gets a free mug of porridge each day. Good news? Well, it is 
for the US government who dumps its leftovers in the name of charity. 
Read more from Alex Renton on food aid on our brand new food blog, 
Word of Mouth and join the debate

Sunday May 27, 2007
The Observer

It's early May and Malawi seems to be awash with corn. On the roads, 
trucks heavy with pale yellow maize heads rumble from the fields; in 
the villages nearly every woman and child is at work stripping the 
little kernels from their cobs, singing the harvest songs that give a 
rhythm to their work. Other women are pounding the maize with a giant 
pestle and mortar into flour to make the national staple dish - nzima 
- corn mash. (The men mostly seem to be occupied drinking the new 
season's maize beer.) It has been the best harvest in a dozen years 
or more. So why - and this is what we've come here to ask - in this 
time of historic plenty, is the rich world still sending its unwanted 
food to Malawi?

This little southern-African country has had a rough decade. 
Staggering under the effects of an Aids epidemic that affects one in 
five of the population in some districts, there were famines here in 
2002, 2003 and one in 2005, when a third of Malawi's 13 million 
people ran out of food. Until this April, over 300,000 were still 
being fed emergency rations by the United Nations World Food 
Programme. Malawi deserved a good year.

But record harvests don't necessarily guarantee good times. 'We have 
so much maize this year - thanks be to God,' says Felicita Bailoni. 
'But we have a problem over where to sell it. It's not just that the 
price is so low because there is so much maize, there isn't anyone to 
sell it to. The traders normally visit the village but they haven't 
come.' Felicita, 59, talks as she rubs the kernels from a cob into a 
basin before her. Even in the time of plentiful food she's worried. 
She and her husband Stephen look after her two grandchildren, whose 
mother died three years ago, and two other orphans.

Most households in their village, Kunthembwe, have taken in the 
children of those who have died from Aids - which is particularly 
severe here around Blantyre in southern Malawi. Felicita and her 
enlarged family have more than enough food for today and for the year 
ahead - but they need cash to pay the children's school fees, for 
clothes and other necessities. And maize corn is so plentiful at the 
moment it fetches only eight Malawian kwacha, or about 3p a kilo - if 
you can sell it. In 2005, the price went up to 50 kwacha a kilo. The 
Bailonis are hoping to sell 100 50kg bags of corn ears - the cobs are 
lying round the back of their two-room house in a vast wooden cradle 
designed to keep the rats away. 'But if we wait till the price goes 
up, the weevils will spoil our maize,' says Felicita. 'We can only 
sit and worry.'

'The price is so low,' says Charles Rethman, a Malawi-based analyst 
of what the NGOs call 'food security', 'that we have a concern now 
about next year. Farmers will be put off growing maize, and they 
won't have the cash to buy the seeds for the next planting. So in 
2008 we're looking at the possibility of another food crisis. So it's 
really important that we do everything we can to get the price up to 
a level that rewards the farmers.'

With so much cheap corn available Rethman is bemused by a US 
government deal, announced in April, to ship $19.5 million of 
American corn and soya to Malawi as food aid. 'It's a nonsense,' he 
says.

Everywhere I go in the little villages in the shadow of Michiru 
mountain I hear the same story. Plenty of maize but no market. This 
affects the very poorest. In one village I meet Lena Butao, a 
24-year-old whose mother died last year, her father in 2003. (Aids 
has brought a collapse in life expectancy in Malawi to just 37 
years). She looks after her three brothers and sisters, the youngest 
only 10. They managed to harvest 18 bags of maize from their parents' 
field, but it won't see them through this year. Lena needs to raise 
money to pay for school fees, soap, clothes and for medicine. She's 
in the middle of a bout of malaria; she shivers in the sunshine 

Re: [Biofuel] protect your identity

2007-05-28 Thread doug
On Sunday 27 May 2007 06:23:51 am Keith Addison wrote:
> Hi Kirk
>
> Have you been having security/virus/whatever problems? Hope not.
>
> Best
>
> Keith

& another good reason to go Linux or Mac. (as well as all the new virii & 
Trojans that Redmond products attract)

 The good news is that the new version of PCLinuxOS is released. For those 
interested, download (or procure) the CD & try it. I love it because 
everything just works! (with a small rider...). PCLOS has all the addons that 
other versions of linux do not include: much easier for a newbie (new user).

 Remember: Use MS products & you attract viruses!

regards Doug

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Re: [Biofuel] How America is betraying the hungry children of Africa

2007-05-28 Thread Mike Weaver
Let Them Eat Promises


> Food vs fuel? US ethanol and tortilla riots?
>
> Why are these people in Malawi growing maize and soy anyway? Hardly
> their best choice.
>
> See also:
>
> http://snipurl.com/rcij
> [Biofuel] Bushfood
>
> http://snipurl.com/rcik
> [Biofuel] Myth: More US aid will help the hungry
>
> http://snipurl.com/rcim
> Re: [Biofuel] US Foreign aid
> Food Dumping [Aid] Maintains Poverty
>
> http://snipurl.com/rcig
> [Biofuel] The US and Foreign Aid Assistance
>
> http://snipurl.com/rcih
> [Biofuel] Famines as Commercial Opportunity
>
> http://snipurl.com/rcii
> [Biofuel] Famine As Commerce
>
> http://snipurl.com/rcin
> [Biofuel] Inequality in wealth
>
> - Keith
>
> 
>
> http://observer.guardian.co.uk/foodmonthly/story/0,,2086227,00.html
> | Food monthly | The Observer
>
> Special investigation
>
> How America is betraying the hungry children of Africa
>
> Edina gets a free mug of porridge each day. Good news? Well, it is
> for the US government who dumps its leftovers in the name of charity.
> Read more from Alex Renton on food aid on our brand new food blog,
> Word of Mouth and join the debate
>
> Sunday May 27, 2007
> The Observer
>
> It's early May and Malawi seems to be awash with corn. On the roads,
> trucks heavy with pale yellow maize heads rumble from the fields; in
> the villages nearly every woman and child is at work stripping the
> little kernels from their cobs, singing the harvest songs that give a
> rhythm to their work. Other women are pounding the maize with a giant
> pestle and mortar into flour to make the national staple dish - nzima
> - corn mash. (The men mostly seem to be occupied drinking the new
> season's maize beer.) It has been the best harvest in a dozen years
> or more. So why - and this is what we've come here to ask - in this
> time of historic plenty, is the rich world still sending its unwanted
> food to Malawi?
>
> This little southern-African country has had a rough decade.
> Staggering under the effects of an Aids epidemic that affects one in
> five of the population in some districts, there were famines here in
> 2002, 2003 and one in 2005, when a third of Malawi's 13 million
> people ran out of food. Until this April, over 300,000 were still
> being fed emergency rations by the United Nations World Food
> Programme. Malawi deserved a good year.
>
> But record harvests don't necessarily guarantee good times. 'We have
> so much maize this year - thanks be to God,' says Felicita Bailoni.
> 'But we have a problem over where to sell it. It's not just that the
> price is so low because there is so much maize, there isn't anyone to
> sell it to. The traders normally visit the village but they haven't
> come.' Felicita, 59, talks as she rubs the kernels from a cob into a
> basin before her. Even in the time of plentiful food she's worried.
> She and her husband Stephen look after her two grandchildren, whose
> mother died three years ago, and two other orphans.
>
> Most households in their village, Kunthembwe, have taken in the
> children of those who have died from Aids - which is particularly
> severe here around Blantyre in southern Malawi. Felicita and her
> enlarged family have more than enough food for today and for the year
> ahead - but they need cash to pay the children's school fees, for
> clothes and other necessities. And maize corn is so plentiful at the
> moment it fetches only eight Malawian kwacha, or about 3p a kilo - if
> you can sell it. In 2005, the price went up to 50 kwacha a kilo. The
> Bailonis are hoping to sell 100 50kg bags of corn ears - the cobs are
> lying round the back of their two-room house in a vast wooden cradle
> designed to keep the rats away. 'But if we wait till the price goes
> up, the weevils will spoil our maize,' says Felicita. 'We can only
> sit and worry.'
>
> 'The price is so low,' says Charles Rethman, a Malawi-based analyst
> of what the NGOs call 'food security', 'that we have a concern now
> about next year. Farmers will be put off growing maize, and they
> won't have the cash to buy the seeds for the next planting. So in
> 2008 we're looking at the possibility of another food crisis. So it's
> really important that we do everything we can to get the price up to
> a level that rewards the farmers.'
>
> With so much cheap corn available Rethman is bemused by a US
> government deal, announced in April, to ship $19.5 million of
> American corn and soya to Malawi as food aid. 'It's a nonsense,' he
> says.
>
> Everywhere I go in the little villages in the shadow of Michiru
> mountain I hear the same story. Plenty of maize but no market. This
> affects the very poorest. In one village I meet Lena Butao, a
> 24-year-old whose mother died last year, her father in 2003. (Aids
> has brought a collapse in life expectancy in Malawi to just 37
> years). She looks after her three brothers and sisters, the youngest
> only 10. They managed to harvest 18 bags of maize from their parents'
> field, but it won't see them th

[Biofuel] Hybrid Solar House

2007-05-28 Thread Mike Weaver
http://enertia.com/Science/HowItWorks/tabid/68/Default.aspx


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Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Solar House

2007-05-28 Thread Zeke Yewdall

I have a book published in 1983 called  "Sun/earth buffering and
superinsulation" by Don Booth.  It talks all about envelope houses, which
seem to be much the same as the Enertia concept -- have a double envelope
with thermal mass in the inner space and solar heated air circulating around
between them.

Z

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Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Solar House

2007-05-28 Thread Dawie Coetzee
I've used the cooling component's operating principle in roofs, with mixed 
success because builders don't take it seriously and leave out the exhaust 
vents *sigh...* But even an unexhausted but accidentally-leaky convection space 
helps a lot with cooling.-D


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Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Solar House

2007-05-28 Thread Fritz Friesinger
Hi Mike & all,
i had a quick look at the Website of enertia,there are some very good aspects 
in their aproach,but i think this is a kind of overkill!
We talking here of basically two Housshells wich are probably very costly and 
not ment for everybodys means!
A significant aspect of full Woodhouses is not even mentionned in this website<
the ability of wood to even out differences of  humidity and therefore act as a 
catalizer.
Everone owns a Loghome would be able to tell that the Klimate in a Loghome is 
much more natural and better than in conventional built studdwallstructure with 
all kind of windbarriers and vaporbarriers!
The only disadventage,Loghomes are very labourintensive and therefore expensive.
I am working since a while on a constructionmethod with double Woodwalls 
insulated with natural fiber insulation,not using vaporbarriers at all,so the 
whole wall is considered as a full Logwall.
This method is costefficient, easy to assemble for homebuyers and 
ecological,since the protection of the wood is mainly to constructiv means!
My Modelhome should be up by the end of this summer!
Fritz 
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[Biofuel] Remember

2007-05-28 Thread M&K DuPree
I'm sending this out to a whole bunch of folks, so please forgive me if I don't 
speak to you more personally.  
 Maybe you think I'm a fool for sending this along.  Maybe it will be just 
what you need.  However you receive it, please know I send it because I care 
about you and wish for you only the best.  
 Your experience will be enhanced with your audio on.  Mike

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[Biofuel] Fwd: Re: Growing canola for conversion to biodiesel - how is it done?

2007-05-28 Thread Keith Addison
Fwd from Sustainable Agriculture Network Discussion Group. 
Interesting for monocroppers maybe.

>and could cause problems in your vehicles. Many farmers around here
>ended up selling their canola oil and buying their fuel as they were
>getting about the same price as fuel cost last year, and making enough
>biodiesel for the farm is a big, messy, exacting process.

That depends on what you call a farm. That might be true for 
1,000-acre-plus mechanised monocropping agribiz deserts, not for real 
farms, IMHO (where you'd most likely be using other renewable energy 
sources as well, eg biogas, wind, solar, or should be). So you brew 
up a batch of biod once a week, no big deal.

Best

Keith


>From: "Painter, Kate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Growing canola for conversion to biodiesel - how is it done?
>To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 08:41:20 -0700
>
>Canola is grown as a field crop much like wheat. It's harvested with a
>grain combine, which must be adjusted to deal with the small seeds and
>the taller crop. It can be grown in fairly dry regions, particularly
>winter canola, but it needs moisture to get established. We can raise
>winter canola in an area with 10" annual rainfall but better crops are
>achieved with higher rainfall. Spring canola can be grown in 15" or more
>annual rainfall, but yields improve with higher rainfall. Canola likes
>cool climates; temperatures over 85 degrees shut down the blooming.
>There are many canola growing guides online. I have written a bulletin
>for dryland spring canola production as well as several spreadsheet
>production guides for winter and spring canola production at different
>production areas in Washington and Oregon. They can be found at:
>
>http://cff.wsu.edu/Publications/index.html#budget
>
>After you have produced the crop, the seed will need to be crushed and
>then the oil needs to be converted into biodiesel. ON average, you can
>expect to get about 100 gallons of biodiesel per acre of canola but that
>will depend on your yield, of course. Making biodiesel is not horribly
>difficult but it needs to be done well or your fuel will be substandard
>and could cause problems in your vehicles. Many farmers around here
>ended up selling their canola oil and buying their fuel as they were
>getting about the same price as fuel cost last year, and making enough
>biodiesel for the farm is a big, messy, exacting process.
>
>Hope this helps.
>Kate Painter
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Sustainable Agriculture Network Discussion Group
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lawrence F. London,
>Jr.
>Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 8:02 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [SANET-MG] Growing canola for conversion to biodiesel - how is
>it done?
>
>Growing canola for conversion to biodiesel - how is it done?
>
>On a tract less than 100 acres, people I know want to grow
>canola to augment their supply of oil for biodiesel production.
>
>1) what kind of soils and soil conditions and fertility are best
>2) is it drought resistant
>3) is it grown on flat land, row cropped or can it be grown in wide
>raised beds
>4) how is is harvested
>5) what kinds of harvesters are available
>6) is there a small harvester/combine available that could be used with
>wide raised beds
>or is there another type that could be modified for this purpose
>
>Thanks for any feedback.
>
>LL
>--
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>http://market-farming.com/venaurafarm
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Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Re: Growing canola for conversion to biodiesel - how is it done?

2007-05-28 Thread Ken Provost
Canola is just a low-erucic acid variety of rape, which is itself  
closely related to mustard
and the other Brassicas. It's pretty fussy compared to, say. brown  
mustard (B. juncea)
or black mustard (B. nigra), and its only advantage is that animals  
can eat the oil and
seedcake, which in the case of mustard can have some ill effects due  
to erucic acid.
(Tell that to the Indians who use mustard oil all the time).

Mustard and rape are fine candidates for biodiesel production. The  
seeds are small,
which requires some seedpress modification, and the plants, like all  
Brassica, are
hard on the soil and prone to mildew and fungus. In their favor, they  
are often available
by the acre as weeds along the road. Canola, OTOH, is always  
monocropped and
is basically an invented plant which is not, IMO, compatible with the  
"appropriate
technology" angle of small scale biodiesel.

Check it out:

http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/Brassica_juncea.html

-K

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Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Solar House

2007-05-28 Thread Kirk McLoren
sheetrock does absorb water as does furniture etc. I know because when I lived 
in the Coachella valley (Indio - Palm Springs) I used evaporative cooling until 
humid air moved north from the gulf. For the next couple of days the ac 
condensate line ran water as the house dried out and the ac didnt pull down 
fast. Then once dried ran normally.
   
  Kirk

Fritz Friesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Hi Mike & all,
  i had a quick look at the Website of enertia,there are some very good aspects 
in their aproach,but i think this is a kind of overkill!
  We talking here of basically two Housshells wich are probably very costly and 
not ment for everybodys means!
  A significant aspect of full Woodhouses is not even mentionned in this 
website<
  the ability of wood to even out differences of  humidity and therefore act as 
a catalizer.
  Everone owns a Loghome would be able to tell that the Klimate in a Loghome is 
much more natural and better than in conventional built studdwallstructure with 
all kind of windbarriers and vaporbarriers!
  The only disadventage,Loghomes are very labourintensive and therefore 
expensive.
  I am working since a while on a constructionmethod with double Woodwalls 
insulated with natural fiber insulation,not using vaporbarriers at all,so the 
whole wall is considered as a full Logwall.
  This method is costefficient, easy to assemble for homebuyers and 
ecological,since the protection of the wood is mainly to constructiv means!
  My Modelhome should be up by the end of this summer!
  Fritz 
- Original Message - 
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  To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 10:25 AM
  Subject: [Biofuel] Hybrid Solar House
  

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Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Solar House

2007-05-28 Thread Fritz Friesinger
Hi Kirk,
sheetrock is known to make Livingaereas very dry as its absorbs lots of 
humidity from the air with the disadventage of creating mildue!
Furniture absorb very little humidity in compare.
Evaporativ cooling does not harm furnitures but is not suitible for 
drywallconstruction

Fritz
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kirk McLoren 
  To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 10:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Solar House


  sheetrock does absorb water as does furniture etc. I know because when I 
lived in the Coachella valley (Indio - Palm Springs) I used evaporative cooling 
until humid air moved north from the gulf. For the next couple of days the ac 
condensate line ran water as the house dried out and the ac didnt pull down 
fast. Then once dried ran normally.

  Kirk

  Fritz Friesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Mike & all,
i had a quick look at the Website of enertia,there are some very good 
aspects in their aproach,but i think this is a kind of overkill!
We talking here of basically two Housshells wich are probably very costly 
and not ment for everybodys means!
A significant aspect of full Woodhouses is not even mentionned in this 
website<
the ability of wood to even out differences of  humidity and therefore act 
as a catalizer.
Everone owns a Loghome would be able to tell that the Klimate in a Loghome 
is much more natural and better than in conventional built studdwallstructure 
with all kind of windbarriers and vaporbarriers!
The only disadventage,Loghomes are very labourintensive and therefore 
expensive.
I am working since a while on a constructionmethod with double Woodwalls 
insulated with natural fiber insulation,not using vaporbarriers at all,so the 
whole wall is considered as a full Logwall.
This method is costefficient, easy to assemble for homebuyers and 
ecological,since the protection of the wood is mainly to constructiv means!
My Modelhome should be up by the end of this summer!
Fritz 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Weaver 
  To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 10:25 AM
  Subject: [Biofuel] Hybrid Solar House


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Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Solar House

2007-05-28 Thread Kirk McLoren
Sheetrock is as American as Chevrolet. Easily 95% of the houses around here are 
sheetrocked. I only lived in one house with mildew and that was a rental in 
California.
  It actually had standing water underneath it when it rained.
  Had a moron for a landlord.
   
  Kirk

Fritz Friesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Hi Kirk,
  sheetrock is known to make Livingaereas very dry as its absorbs lots of 
humidity from the air with the disadventage of creating mildue!
  Furniture absorb very little humidity in compare.
  Evaporativ cooling does not harm furnitures but is not suitible for 
drywallconstruction
   
  Fritz
- Original Message - 
  From: Kirk McLoren 
  To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 10:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Solar House
  

  sheetrock does absorb water as does furniture etc. I know because when I 
lived in the Coachella valley (Indio - Palm Springs) I used evaporative cooling 
until humid air moved north from the gulf. For the next couple of days the ac 
condensate line ran water as the house dried out and the ac didnt pull down 
fast. Then once dried ran normally.
   
  Kirk

Fritz Friesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Hi Mike & all,
  i had a quick look at the Website of enertia,there are some very good aspects 
in their aproach,but i think this is a kind of overkill!
  We talking here of basically two Housshells wich are probably very costly and 
not ment for everybodys means!
  A significant aspect of full Woodhouses is not even mentionned in this 
website<
  the ability of wood to even out differences of  humidity and therefore act as 
a catalizer.
  Everone owns a Loghome would be able to tell that the Klimate in a Loghome is 
much more natural and better than in conventional built studdwallstructure with 
all kind of windbarriers and vaporbarriers!
  The only disadventage,Loghomes are very labourintensive and therefore 
expensive.
  I am working since a while on a constructionmethod with double Woodwalls 
insulated with natural fiber insulation,not using vaporbarriers at all,so the 
whole wall is considered as a full Logwall.
  This method is costefficient, easy to assemble for homebuyers and 
ecological,since the protection of the wood is mainly to constructiv means!
  My Modelhome should be up by the end of this summer!
  Fritz 
- Original Message - 
  From: Mike Weaver 
  To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 10:25 AM
  Subject: [Biofuel] Hybrid Solar House
  

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Re: [Biofuel] Remember

2007-05-28 Thread Kirk McLoren
Right back at you bud.
  Beautiful.
   
  Kirk

M&K DuPree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  I'm sending this out to a whole bunch of folks, so please forgive me 
if I don't speak to you more personally.  
   Maybe you think I'm a fool for sending this along.  Maybe it will be 
just what you need.  However you receive it, please know I send it because I 
care about you and wish for you only the best.  
   Your experience will be enhanced with your audio on.  Mike
   
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Re: [Biofuel] Battle for biofuels drives world food prices higher

2007-05-28 Thread Kirk McLoren
Hay prices are up 50%
  Kirk

Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Agricultural commodities ain't necessarily "food".

See:

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Re: [Biofuel] DISTILLERY DEMAND FOR GRAIN TO FUEL CARS VASTLY UNDERSTATE

http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg68542.html
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| Business | The Observer
Battle for biofuels drives world food prices higher

Heather Stewart
Sunday May 27, 2007
The Observer

America's thirst for environmentally friendly biofuels is driving up 
food prices around the world as farmers scramble to devote more land 
to corn, writes Heather Stewart.

With the oil price back above $70 a barrel, biofuel looks 
increasingly attractive, and as more corn is grown to fill fuel 
tanks, the prices of other food crops are also being pushed up.

'The biggest impetus right now is the fact that the oil price is very 
high, and ethanol is very viable,' said Kona Haque, senior 
commodities editor at the Economist Intelligence Unit. 'It's a land 
issue: it's a competition for acreage. Countries are devoting an 
increasing amount of their land to fuel.' Even meat prices have been 
affected, as there is less land available to grow soybeans to feed 
livestock.

Almost a quarter of this year's US corn crop is expected to be turned 
into fuel. Drought in Australia has added to the food prices spike, 
which is feeding through to world inflation.


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