[Biofuel] Paraguayans 'ill through GM crop pesticide' - 24 Aug 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKCqmuu5sag ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Paraguayans 'ill through GM crop pesticide' - 24 Aug 2008
Scores of Paraguayan say that they are being driven from their communities by pesticides, but the government denies the claims. Al Jazeera's Lucia Newman reports from San Pedro del Norte, Paraguay where locals are complaining that mass spraying of toxic chemicals on genetically modified crops near their homes is making them ill. video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKCqmuu5sag ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Paraguayans 'ill through GM crop pesticide' - 24 Aug 2008 *#
Dear Doug, I see you bought into Al Jazeera's headline. What is the Connection between the crop being GM and the harm caused by the pesticide? Regards, Wendell >From: doug swanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2008/08/25 Mon AM 07:27:06 EDT >To: Biofuel List >Subject: [Biofuel] Paraguayans 'ill through GM crop pesticide' - 24 Aug 2008 >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKCqmuu5sag > >___ >Biofuel mailing list >Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Paraguayans 'ill through GM crop pesticide' - 24 Aug 2008 *#
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Dear Doug, > > I see you bought into Al Jazeera's headline. > > What is the Connection between the crop being GM and the harm caused by > the pesticide? > > Regards, > > Wendell > > Nope, I've not bought into anything, merely copy and pasted the title into the email. True, there's no mention of GM in the video... has to do more with the pesticides used on the crops. It's my opinion that crops grown naturally will maintain a natural resistance to pests, and while the pests may consume a percentage of the crop, the pests are a lesser bane to both the farmers, and the consumers of food, than whatever pesticides might be used to control the pests, (and in the process, killing the organisms, earthworms, bacteria, mycelium, in the soil that make for a living substrate for crops grown in it.) As far as getting my "news" from Al Jazeera, yes, I do read it, and CNN, and PressTV, and Haaretz, and Democracy Now, The Hindu, Voice of America, Reuters, the list goes on and on... Each one has their own style of spin, and like religions, each has a small thread ot truth that winds through it. Careful analysis will expose truth amongst the spins... Unless I am there, and have seen with my own eyes, all reports arriving at my eyes are suspect... doug -- Contentment comes not from having more, but from wanting less. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * All generalizations are false. Including this one. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This email is constructed entirely with OpenSource Software. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Jonathan Swift quote
A THOUGHT FOR TODAY: For in reason, all government without the consent of the governed is the very definition of slavery. -Jonathan Swift, satirist (1667-1745) Understatement of the day: We have a lot of work to do to restore our Constitution & get our country back into the hands of "we the people." Washington DC seems to be completely detached from the idea that they're there to serve and enhance public good. Examples abound: forced vaccinations routinely spying on all citizens huge corporate bailouts war or threat of war on all who disagree with Washington neglect of infrastructure corporate tax cuts weakening of environmental protection totally insufficient healthcare of military returning from mid-East wars irradiation of food sludge & pesticides used on crops aerial spraying of populated areas rigged elections extremely expensive healthcare plus total emphasis on drugs for all ailments media used as propaganda tool no bid contracts huge prison population (#1 in the world) & ad infinitum -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080825/c6cc8f31/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] E85 Networking works!
I posted a message to both of these lists complaining about how I had such trouble buying ethanol 85 fuel on Friday. Well, I'm not sure who my benefactor is but it had to be someone on one of these lists named Robin who got in touch with Greenfield Ethanol and I got a call from them today saying that I could get ethanol in research quantities from them. Or a tanker load! Whomever you are Robin, I thank you and that was one hell of a great birthday present! Joe ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Paraguayans 'ill through GM crop pesticide' - 24 Aug 2008 *#
Most studies have found that use of pesticides with GM crops goes up, not down as promised by Monsanto et al. Best Keith >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Dear Doug, >> >> I see you bought into Al Jazeera's headline. >> >> What is the Connection between the crop being GM and the harm >>caused by the pesticide? >> >> Regards, >> >> Wendell >> >> >Nope, I've not bought into anything, merely copy and pasted the title >into the email. True, there's no mention of GM in the video... has to >do more with the pesticides used on the crops. It's my opinion that >crops grown naturally will maintain a natural resistance to pests, and >while the pests may consume a percentage of the crop, the pests are a >lesser bane to both the farmers, and the consumers of food, than >whatever pesticides might be used to control the pests, (and in the >process, killing the organisms, earthworms, bacteria, mycelium, in the >soil that make for a living substrate for crops grown in it.) > >As far as getting my "news" from Al Jazeera, yes, I do read it, and CNN, >and PressTV, and Haaretz, and Democracy Now, The Hindu, Voice of >America, Reuters, the list goes on and on... Each one has their own >style of spin, and like religions, each has a small thread ot truth that >winds through it. Careful analysis will expose truth amongst the >spins... Unless I am there, and have seen with my own eyes, all reports >arriving at my eyes are suspect... > >doug > >-- >Contentment comes not from having more, but from wanting less. >* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > >All generalizations are false. Including this one. > >* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > >This email is constructed entirely with OpenSource Software. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Paraguayans 'ill through GM crop pesticide' - 24 Aug 2008 *#
Keith My understanding was that the 'poistive' attributes of GM crops/foods were supposed to be that they got a higher yield, for insects didn't take as much, plus it was less expensive to grow them for there was no need for pesticides, etc. It seems that even those traits are not panning out though. Or have I misunderstood? best wishes Shan In a message dated 25/08/2008 2:13:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Most studies have found that use of pesticides with GM crops goes up, not down as promised by Monsanto et al. Best Keith >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Dear Doug, >> >> I see you bought into Al Jazeera's headline. >> >> What is the Connection between the crop being GM and the harm >>caused by the pesticide? >> >> Regards, >> >> Wendell >> >> >Nope, I've not bought into anything, merely copy and pasted the title >into the email. True, there's no mention of GM in the video... has to >do more with the pesticides used on the crops. It's my opinion that >crops grown naturally will maintain a natural resistance to pests, and >while the pests may consume a percentage of the crop, the pests are a >lesser bane to both the farmers, and the consumers of food, than >whatever pesticides might be used to control the pests, (and in the >process, killing the organisms, earthworms, bacteria, mycelium, in the >soil that make for a living substrate for crops grown in it.) > >As far as getting my "news" from Al Jazeera, yes, I do read it, and CNN, >and PressTV, and Haaretz, and Democracy Now, The Hindu, Voice of >America, Reuters, the list goes on and on... Each one has their own >style of spin, and like religions, each has a small thread ot truth that >winds through it. Careful analysis will expose truth amongst the >spins... Unless I am there, and have seen with my own eyes, all reports >arriving at my eyes are suspect... > >doug -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080825/ce7dc4bd/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/