Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: New Engine 100 MPG
Well, just say'n: http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTg6r6c0ZlKBq4FJWZWt9lsztH2wxDaJzUmaNCBjrCiT3deoE32 http://www.runmuki.com/commute/images/cartoon.jpg is all. - Original Message - From: "Aleksander Kac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 6:26:53 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: New Engine 100 MPG Well. Regardless of every sane argument I need to drive to make a living. To pay the house I live in, to pay for my internet connection, you get it, I believe. I need to drive a lot some days. I need to carry tools sometimes. I need to be on time and I'm hot. So yes, its 33 deg C out there, and the humidity is high, and aircon helps a lot. I work 13-14 hours some days, staying cool during drives helps to stay alert on the road. So yes, I not only believe aircon is nice, I believe it's neccessary on some days. Traffic is heavy only some days, but mostly very bearable where I live. The most we need to take real good care of these days are the cyclists. These are not people getting from A to B, these are people with nothing to do all afternoon and they didn't tire themselves during their work day. But I still take care. So yes, passive and active safety elements in cars are essential. And we don't have tank traffic at all. We don't even have many tanks left anymore. There are some large vehicles on road and I happen to own one. And no, it's not putting in danger any one, it's rather useful for that matter. Cheers, Aleks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dawie Coetzee Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 11:54 AM To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: New Engine 100 MPG Hi Aleks, Jason "Well, I need to say something here. Why all these inventions?" Why indeed? "You can buy a whole production car capable of 100 mpg today." Unfortunately it is fundamentally one of several million of them, and done that way can't be otherwise. "The world record in fuel economy set by Gerhardt Plattner with this car is actually way better: 107 mpg from austria to denmark and back, 2007 km on 45 litres of diesel, using autobahns, climbing mountain highway passes etc. http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2011/05/gerhard-plattner-does-it-again-drives.html (7% better fuel economy at these low values is no easy job in real world traffic) "It's not a hybrid." Good. "It's got aircon and everything a modern car should have." Should a modern car have aircon and everything else? Why? Perhaps because it spends so much time in heavy traffic? Isn't THAT rather the problem? "It hasn't got an exotic engine, the engine is a common rail 1.2 litre tdi." That's one common rail too exotic! "It's even almost half reasonably priced. "And it's not even a kei or very small car : Skoda Fabia Greenline II http://www.buyacar.co.uk/cars/skoda/skoda_fabia/review_skoda_fabia_greenline_ii_4637.jhtml " Primarily because it needs to 'protect' its occupants against all that tank traffic ... "Cheers, Aleks" This looks like a lot of fun to me. Seventeen of them might achieve remarkable fuel economy; no great matter if the eighteenth and nineteenth don't. And they would achieve that fuel economy the right way, that is, pretty much by accident. Regards Dawie From: Aleksander Kac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org" Sent: Fri, 27 May, 2011 8:27:01 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: New Engine 100 MPG Well, I need to say something here. Why all these inventions? You can buy a whole production car capable of 100 mpg today. The world record in fuel economy set by Gerhardt Plattner with this car is actually way better: 107 mpg from austria to denmark and back, 2007 km on 45 litres of diesel, using autobahns, climbing mountain highway passes etc. http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2011/05/gerhard-plattner-does-it-again-drives.html (7% better fuel economy at these low values is no easy job in real world traffic) It's not a hybrid. It's got aircon and everything a modern car should have. It hasn't got an exotic engine, the engine is a common rail 1.2 litre tdi. It's even almost half reasonably priced. And it's not even a kei or very small car : Skoda Fabia Greenline II http://www.buyacar.co.uk/cars/skoda/skoda_fabia/review_skoda_fabia_greenline_ii_4637.jhtml Cheers, Aleks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Lee Dyson Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 3:13 AM To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Fwd: New Engine 100 MPG Hello All, was sent this, looks interesting. Looks like if it can be vaporised and combustible you can run this engine on it, diesel also. Looks like the idea has been around since at least the 1950's Lee Begin forwarded message: > Subject: FW: New Engine 100 MPG >
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: New Engine 100 MPG
Hello Chip, when I startet out with my first car,a Lloyd Alexander Ts , 19hp the consumption was not that a big of a deal (1966) but just the same one did not drive just to burn fuel. I dont recall how much that yellow streetsinger burnt at the time,but there have been cars around then with less than 3liters consumption per 100km witch comes closed to the 100Mper Gallon thing. some Vehicles like the Messerschmitt cabinscooter or the little Gogomobil,and than the Renaults or the500Fiat. Big enough to get your But around,but not to impress lotsa girls! And there we go: A man and his symbols The Americans startet with the oversize Bathtops,lately I saw a 500 Fiat in Montreal ,shorter that little thing as a Chevy wide! My Brothers BMW Isetta, The one who opened the door to the front parked cross as well as long! You came a long a parking spot pulled the Handbrake and the thing jumped in the spot (Cross) and it never failed to do so The are all gone and I really dont know why Fiat shoud get the Price they ask for the new 500! Its all a rip off! Fritz -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20110603/35fd92f2/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: New Engine 100 MPG
Hey Fritz; Even though I grew up and live in the states, I remember isettas/500s/hillman hunters/austin 1000s and all those fun things. I even know where there is about 85% of a messerschmitt in a barn not too far away. I loved those cars, all of them. My dad, back in '62, opted for a large car, a VW kaefer, and never looked back, had VDubs until he died. The new 500 could carry a *real* 500 in it's boot. And yes, it is all a rip off. Wanna make the roads really safer, rather than politically safer? Pull those driver's side airbags and replace them with a sharpened 6" steel spike pointing at the drivers chest. Fixed! No more 'accidents'. Now folks can drive tiny and seriously stingy-on-the-fuel vehicles again. - Original Message - From: "Fritz Friesinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, June 3, 2011 12:57:48 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: New Engine 100 MPG Hello Chip, when I startet out with my first car,a Lloyd Alexander Ts , 19hp the consumption was not that a big of a deal (1966) but just the same one did not drive just to burn fuel. I dont recall how much that yellow streetsinger burnt at the time,but there have been cars around then with less than 3liters consumption per 100km witch comes closed to the 100Mper Gallon thing. some Vehicles like the Messerschmitt cabinscooter or the little Gogomobil,and than the Renaults or the500Fiat. Big enough to get your But around,but not to impress lotsa girls! And there we go: A man and his symbols The Americans startet with the oversize Bathtops,lately I saw a 500 Fiat in Montreal ,shorter that little thing as a Chevy wide! My Brothers BMW Isetta, The one who opened the door to the front parked cross as well as long! You came a long a parking spot pulled the Handbrake and the thing jumped in the spot (Cross) and it never failed to do so The are all gone and I really dont know why Fiat shoud get the Price they ask for the new 500! Its all a rip off! Fritz -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20110603/35fd92f2/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: New Engine 100 MPG
Oh, and as a follow-up, here's an incomplete list of cars I have owned in my life, I know I've left some out. http://cubic-dog.blogspot.com/2010/07/cars-i-have-owned.html - Original Message - From: "Chip Mefford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, June 3, 2011 1:52:52 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: New Engine 100 MPG Hey Fritz; Even though I grew up and live in the states, I remember isettas/500s/hillman hunters/austin 1000s and all those fun things. I even know where there is about 85% of a messerschmitt in a barn not too far away. I loved those cars, all of them. My dad, back in '62, opted for a large car, a VW kaefer, and never looked back, had VDubs until he died. The new 500 could carry a *real* 500 in it's boot. And yes, it is all a rip off. Wanna make the roads really safer, rather than politically safer? Pull those driver's side airbags and replace them with a sharpened 6" steel spike pointing at the drivers chest. Fixed! No more 'accidents'. Now folks can drive tiny and seriously stingy-on-the-fuel vehicles again. - Original Message - From: "Fritz Friesinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, June 3, 2011 12:57:48 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: New Engine 100 MPG Hello Chip, when I startet out with my first car,a Lloyd Alexander Ts , 19hp the consumption was not that a big of a deal (1966) but just the same one did not drive just to burn fuel. I dont recall how much that yellow streetsinger burnt at the time,but there have been cars around then with less than 3liters consumption per 100km witch comes closed to the 100Mper Gallon thing. some Vehicles like the Messerschmitt cabinscooter or the little Gogomobil,and than the Renaults or the500Fiat. Big enough to get your But around,but not to impress lotsa girls! And there we go: A man and his symbols The Americans startet with the oversize Bathtops,lately I saw a 500 Fiat in Montreal ,shorter that little thing as a Chevy wide! My Brothers BMW Isetta, The one who opened the door to the front parked cross as well as long! You came a long a parking spot pulled the Handbrake and the thing jumped in the spot (Cross) and it never failed to do so The are all gone and I really dont know why Fiat shoud get the Price they ask for the new 500! Its all a rip off! Fritz -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20110603/35fd92f2/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] 100 MPG Cars
Hey Chip, you are much wors than me only 16 count in 45years discount 3 years I went on horseback only... Fritz -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20110603/7dae3e37/attachment.html -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/png Size: 1088 bytes Desc: not available Url : /pipermail/attachments/20110603/7dae3e37/attachment.png ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Japanese are eating food contaminated by radioactivity
funny how the memory works. this reminded me of another detail that was in that radio program i had mentioned in the other thread. apparently, it was normal in japan for fresh goods to be labeled as to their placecountry of origin. that practice seems to have come to an abrupt halt. On Jun 1, 2011 4:59 PM, "Midori Hiraga (JTF)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20110604/d2a5882b/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
