Re: [biofuel] Yields
Also remember that in addition to the moisture content of the various feedstocks, some of those (wheat, corn, other cereal grains) are not DIRECTLY fermented. These are high starch materials that must first be broken down to simple sugars (via sprouting - like they do with malting barley prior to brewing OR with added enzymes). The point is (sorry) that stocks with ample sugar like cane or beets do not require this step and may be cheaper/more cost efficient when producing ETOH. Just a thought. Ciao, Geoff > DAVID REID wrote: > > People and Sam, > A point that everyone might have missed from the > table below that Sam posted earlier is that while this table shows the yield > per ton it is based on the natural air weight of the product listed ie it > includes water eg. wheat and corn both have approx water contents around 12% > on average (and close on 75% carbohydrate levels) whereas potatoes and sugar > have water contents quite often up in the high 80s %wise (and carbohydrate > levels of 90% when the water is removed). This is a point that always has to > be remembered when dealing with any plant product and calculating the > conversion efficiency. If you leave the ethanol manufacturer out of it what > it comes down to is the yield per acre as far as the grower goes and if you > leave the grower out the yield per ton as far as the etahnol manufacturer > goes. It really depends on which side of the fence you stand. > B.r., David > > > > Probable yeild from a ton of raw material based on the average > fermentable sugar content(1): > > Material Gallons/Ton > > Wheat---all varieties 85.0 > Corn 84.0 > Buchwheat (OTAY PANKEE)83.4 > Raisins81.4 > Grain Sorghum 79.5 > Rice, rough79.5 > Barley 79.2 > Dates, dry 79.0 > Rye78.8 > Prunes, dry72.0 > Molasses, blackstrap 70.4 > Sorghum Cane 70.4 > Oats 63.6 > Cellulose (approx.)62.0 > Figs, dry 59.0 > Sweet Potatoes 34.2 > Yams 27.3 > Potatoes 22.9 > Sugar Beets22.1 > Figs, fresh21.0 > Jerusalem Artichokes 20.0 > Pineapples 15.6 > Sugar Cane 15.2 > Grapes, all varieties 15.1 > Apples 14.4 > Apricots 13.6 > Pears 11.5 > Peaches11.5 > Plums 10.9 > Carrots 9.8 > Cheese Whey--depends on sugar content > > eGroups Sponsor > [Paid Net2phone Advertisement - Click Here!] > Paid Net2phone Advertisement - Click Here! > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- eGroups Sponsor -~-~> eGroups eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! http://click.egroups.com/1/9698/0/_/837408/_/977121310/ -_-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [biofuel] Yields
I can't think of any grains right off hand that don't store their NRG as starch. If you catch these grains before they're fully mature, then you may find some simple sugars present. But not for long. That's the story with sweet corn. Sweet=sugar ie. readily available and mobile NRG source but as soon as it looks like tough times (picked or end of season) sugars are converted to storage/starch for use later when the seed germinates (if someone doesn't eat it first). Hey, an inteeresting thought- those biodegradable packing peanuts are pretty much pure starch. Maybe NAH! Geoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > my agreement jumps down from a balcony and sissy slaps you around(in other > words, gotcha). are there any grains which are direct fermented? > > Geoff Pritchard wrote: > > > Also remember that in addition to the moisture content of the various > > feedstocks, some of those (wheat, corn, other cereal grains) are not > > DIRECTLY fermented. These are high starch materials that must first be > > broken down to simple sugars (via sprouting - like they do with malting > > barley prior to brewing OR with added enzymes). The point is (sorry) > > that stocks with ample sugar like cane or beets do not require this step > > and may be cheaper/more cost efficient when producing ETOH. Just a > > thought. > > > > Ciao, > > > > Geoff > > > > > DAVID REID wrote: > > > > > > People and Sam, > > > A point that everyone might have missed from the > > > table below that Sam posted earlier is that while this table shows the > > > yield per ton it is based on the natural air weight of the product listed > > > ie it includes water eg. wheat and corn both have approx water contents > > > around 12% on average (and close on 75% carbohydrate levels) whereas > > > potatoes and sugar have water contents quite often up in the high 80s > > > %wise (and carbohydrate levels of 90% when the water is removed). This is > > > a point that always has to be remembered when dealing with any plant > > > product and calculating the conversion efficiency. If you leave the > > > ethanol manufacturer out of it what it comes down to is the yield per > > > acre as far as the grower goes and if you leave the grower out the yield > > > per ton as far as the etahnol manufacturer goes. It really depends on > > > which side of the fence you stand. > > > B.r., David > > > > > > > > > > > > Probable yeild from a ton of raw material based on the average > > > fermentable sugar content(1): > > > > > > Material Gallons/Ton > > > > > > Wheat---all varieties 85.0 > > > Corn 84.0 > > > Buchwheat (OTAY PANKEE)83.4 > > > Raisins81.4 > > > Grain Sorghum 79.5 > > > Rice, rough79.5 > > > Barley 79.2 > > > Dates, dry 79.0 > > > Rye78.8 > > > Prunes, dry72.0 > > > Molasses, blackstrap 70.4 > > > Sorghum Cane 70.4 > > > Oats 63.6 > > > Cellulose (approx.)62.0 > > > Figs, dry 59.0 > > > Sweet Potatoes 34.2 > > > Yams 27.3 > > > Potatoes 22.9 > > > Sugar Beets22.1 > > > Figs, fresh21.0 > > > Jerusalem Artichokes 20.0 > > > Pineapples 15.6 > > > Sugar Cane 15.2 > > > Grapes, all varieties 15.1 > > > Apples 14.4 > > > Apricots 13.6 > > > Pears 11.5 > > > Peaches11.5 > > > Plums 10.9 > > > Carrots 9.8 > > > Cheese Whey--depends on sugar content > > > > > > eGroups Sponsor > > > [Paid Net2
[biofuel] Uses for "biodiesel"
At the risk of sounding stupid, can biodiesel (methyl/ethyl esthers) be used to replace kerosene, lamp oils, etc. ? Where do kerosene and lamp oil (and heating oil for that matter) fit come off in the "cracking process"? How refined are they? I ask these questions because I would like to start a small oilseed crushing operation with the idea of producing biodiesel (I know $$$) but would like alternative uses for the esthers in addition to fuel. I also need (and I've seen some references to this on the list) to efficiently (low E and chemical input) clean up the residue to a marketable glycerine product. Thanks for your comments. Ciao, Geoff Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [biofuel] glycerin
I think that our local treatment plant just wants to know when, how much per flushing, and what is it (glycerine in this case). I don't think that it qualifies as "toxic waste" just waste. geoff anton and federica wrote: > > I know i should look in the website index, but i have never been able to > make it work... > What is everyone doing with their glyc erin? Is it O.K. to put it in the > drain after one has made sure that all the methanol is out of ti? Is there > some place that will take it as toxic waste, for not much money? > I know that you can compost it, use it as parts cleaner, purify it to make > soap, etc., but I live in the city, can't comp[ost, can't get rid of 30lbs > of soap every month or two, and I don't really wash many parts, and besides, > doesn't all that stuff eventually equal going down the drain anyway? does a > standard sewage treatment plant take care of that sort of thing easily? > I talked to a local hand soap place, but they were not interested, and > figure with all of our great brains working toghether, we should be able to > come up with a relatively easy, e-friendly solution. > anton > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~> eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups Click here for more details http://click.egroups.com/1/11231/0/_/837408/_/980805977/ -_-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [biofuel] Re: Another methos for drying biodiesel/biogas
I am sure I don't need to remind you all that ETOH fumes and meth for that matter will explode if not properly vented. I speak as one who has seen. A Nimrod using the drying oven at work reset it to 135C and then placed some cobalt-EDTA crystals in to dry. They had been rinsed with large amounts of 100% ethanol and NOT allowed to let the vapors "blow off" under the hood for awhile. The oven had a SMALL vent opening at the top but quickly the fumes accumulated at the top of the oven and BANG the roof of the oven buckled. Just be careful what you try in an attempt to save time. SERMON OVER! Ciao, Geoff Keith Addison wrote: > > >do you suppose these could be reused by drying in an oven? > >anton > > > > > > > General Performance: One pound of Hydrosource will absorb up to 48 > > >gallons of rainwater or snowmelt, and 20-35 gallons of water, depending on > > >the salt content of the water. > > > Hydrosource can be applied wet or dry. Dry granules are usually > > >easier to use, but soak them thoroughly to fully fill them with water > > >(hydrate). When hydrated, the granules look like chunks of clear gelatin > > >about 1/2 inch in diameter. > > Drying this stuff in the oven is probably more trouble and will most > likely take more energy than the usual way of drying biodiesel, which > is not at all a difficult matter. It might be useful for drying > ethanol though. > > Keith Addison > Journey to Forever > Handmade Projects > Tokyo > http://journeytoforever.org/ > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~> eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups Click here for more details http://click.egroups.com/1/11231/0/_/837408/_/980809472/ -_-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [biofuel] Re: Digital pH meter
Dave, Hey, I live in N. Idaho (Moscow/Pullman area). Where're you at? Regarding pH meters, try Fisher Scientific (800)766-7000; they carry name brands like Orion, Corning, ... Also, probes (what ya stick in soln') can be purchased as sealed (as opposed to refillable) units cheaply from a company called Lasar or Lazar (I'll check on that one if you're interested). We bought a digital meter thru Fisher advertised as one that the water quality guys use - they "throw it" (not recommended) into the back of their pickup. Pretty tough with a rubber case for protection. Anyway, good luck. Perhaps check out an Internet lab equipment auction site - seriously they exist. Ciao, Geoff Keith Addison wrote: > > Hello Dave > > See: Biofuels supplies and suppliers: Journey to Forever > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_supply.html#pH > > You don't mention Webconx, have you been there too? > http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm > > Keith Addison > Journey to Forever > Handmade Projects > Tokyo > http://journeytoforever.org/ > > > > >Hello everyone. My name is David Rygmyr and I live in > >Washington State, USA. I am very interested in trying > >my hand at biodiesel and have been busy doing my > >homework; I've purchased the book "From the Fryer to > >the Fuel Tank" and have been all over the > >journeytoforever.org, veggievan.org, homepower.com, and > >have gone to many linked sites for more info. (Great > >stuff by the way, and my thanks to you on this list who > >were involved with these!) > > > >I'm building my "lab" now; the great scavenger hunt > >begins. I'm a big fan of doing it once and doing it > >right. I already know that I don't want to mess around > >with pH strips or dye. The source listings in the book > >and websites didn't offer any specific brands or > >models, so I'm wondering if anyone here has a hands- > >down recommendation for a specific unit. Believe me, > >I'm not eager to spend a lot, but I've also learned the > >hard way that you get what you pay for. My guess is > >that I'm after a middle-of-the-road unit that's > >reliable and easy to clean. (One source listed was > >Edmund Scientific although it looks like their unit > >requires an ongoing purchase of consumables?) > > > >Thanks! > >--Dave > > > > > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >To unsubscribe, send an email to: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~> eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups Click here for more details http://click.egroups.com/1/11231/0/_/837408/_/980834422/ -_-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [biofuel] Re: gasahol
Hey All, Here's my 2 cents on ETOH fuel. Gas engines can run on straight ETOH with apparent minor alterations to motor (mostly carburation-change jet size) and the ethanol doesn't need to be anhydrous. From what I've read, can run 70% ethanol(no gas) to 90% (180 proof) with no prb. When mixing with gasoline, the problems with water arise. The downside to the gasahol thing is that it takes an incredible amount of energy (in relation to that needed to reach 80% ETOH) to drive off the last bit of water (~10%). So from an overall efficiency standpoint, gasahol exists as a sink for excess grain and allows the petroleum comps. to appear "environmentally sensitive". I also seem to recall that the early auto engines (maybe early Ford) were available as either alcohol or gas burners. If this is true, those early guys (R. Diesel included) really had their "ducks in a row" in regards to the practical use and fueling of motor vehicles. Nobody would have believed the ludicrous measures we go through (drilling platforms in the North Sea... HA!) to fuel an engine. 'Nough said. Ciao, Geoff Keith Addison wrote: > > >Lots of good info in the links and files from Journey to Forever. One > >major point to keep in mind if you're mixing this yourself is that > >you NEED to have anhydrous ethanol to mix with the gas. Otherwise, as > >I understand it, the alcohol and water separate from your gas and sit > >at the bottom of your tank with the gas on top...not good. I thought > >I had read somewhere that one could mix up to more like 20% without > >engine mods, but I don't have practical experience at this so I > >should probably shut my trap now and let someone who does help you > >further. > >-andrew > > > > > >--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "terry calmes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I know that most gasahol is made up of 10% ethanol and 90% > >gasoline. Has any > > > one ever used a higher ratio and to what extent? Were there any > >problems > > > associated with this? Thank a bunch, Terry > > All Brazilian gasoline has a minimum of 24% anhydrous ethanol (v/v) > content, and this will probably be upped to 26% in the near future. > (Dick Carlstein) > > We STILL don't have good drying techniques. We've discussed lime, mol > sieves, corn grits, wool, and now hydrosource. Does anyone have any > actual results using any of these methods? > > Keith Addison > Journey to Forever > Handmade Projects > Tokyo > http://journeytoforever.org/ > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~> eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups Click here for more details http://click.egroups.com/1/11231/0/_/837408/_/981043300/ -_-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [biofuel] Re: pesticides and GM crops
Bravo!! And the University scientists are just lackeys for those companys. As you may be aware, to get grant money from DuPont, Monsanto, and most other large corporations (and that's in the vested interest of the faculty member, university, and company - all gain) comes with a confidentiality agreement that anyone with access to the data must sign stating that no data/comments/discussion may be released without first being reviewed by company officials. Science moves forward Been there. Ciao, Geoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Many of the new "Frankenfood" Genetically Engineered crops (GMOs) > > being produced by companies like Monsanto have their own built-in > > pesticides, as well as immunity to the corporations' weedkillers, > > leading to claims the new seeds will cut toxic pesticide use on > >farms. > > Yes, as I understand it doesn't Monsanto have a whole line of "round- > up ready" GM seeds? They are resistant to weed killer, which means > MORE weed killer will be used as growers spray it like crazy without > fear of hurting the crop. As for the built-in pesticides (and all the > anti-bacterial crap that's throughout our food chain and grocery > store shelves) these just serve to select for more resistant pests > which in turn require more potent and larger quantities of > pesticides. > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~> eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups Click here for more details http://click.egroups.com/1/11231/0/_/837408/_/981044053/ -_-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [biofuel] biodiesel from animal fats
Hi, Besides the obvious saturated (animal fats) vs. unsaturated (veg oils) and solid vs liquid at room temp issues, as I understand it, the free fatty acid content of your oil (plant source or animal) directly influences at what temp it (the esters) will begin to solidify. I spoke with one of the engineer techs working with biodiesel and he mentioned that they had several containers of bioD at different levels of congealing - differences were related to level of free fatty acids. I can pursue this issue with him further, if anyone is interested, Ciao, Geoff Asil Toksal wrote: > > hi, > i have already tried making biodiesel from vegetable oils and wasted oils, > but i was wondering what the difference is, between animal fat and vegetable > oils. so my questions are > what is the difference of animal fats and wasted oils in producing > biodiesel? dows the free fatty acids (ffa) play an important role in the > process of making biodiese? > > ace > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~> eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups Click here for more details http://click.egroups.com/1/11231/0/_/837408/_/981263607/ -_-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [biofuel] fat
Ouch! I think that I might rather just walk than take up "abattoir skills". An obvious source of fat is from the slaughter plants (like IBP) where excess external fat is trimmed off and often added to ground beef coming from slaughter dairy animals (that may be lower in fat). They kill ~2050 head +/- a couple each day!! Ciao, Geoff stephen lakios wrote: > > I think I am low in my rough guess on the amount of fat in an animal > carcass.I purchased a 10.23 lb beef roast,additional fat was trimmed in the > grocery.After cooking I collected .56 lbs of fat from the pan and the roast > was still very well marbled with fat.It may be that a 600 lb carcass could be > over one quarter fat. I know that it is illegal to use a carcass which has > been dead for more than 24hrs. A dead animal can be used for dog and cat > food.But the death must have occurred within 24hrs.I worked a short time for > Alpo. My job was shoveling sawdust (filler) into the mixer.It was an amazing > process to me,a live animal in the yard would be cooked in cans, and boxed 30 > min later.Dead animals were put right on the conveyor,live ones were > electrocuted and put on the conveyor.No skinning,no bleeding,they all went > through a huge heavy chopper,then a huge grinder, another grinder,a big > mixer, where minerals were added, water and preservatives,sawdust,salt and > other stuff.Then ex! truded > into cans,canned and cooked,and boxed.Someone could put an ad in the paper > and pick up dead or old farm animals. You need a truck with a lift or > winch.Shoot them or hit them in the head with a sledge. chop them into > smaller parts and render them out.Chop them up in a large pan or over a pan > to save the blood for blood meal.An excellent fertilizer.Also you can grind > the bones for fertilizer,and the remains can be put into a digester.The > bloodmeal,bonemeal,and sludge can be packaged and sold.The rendered fat made > into biodiesel.The biogas used anyway you want,and to fire your rendering > vat.Additional income can be had if you skin the animals and sell the > hides.Plus you get paid for picking up dead farm animals.I called, and the > rate here is $125 for cattle or horses.A .22 does the job nicely,put the > muzzle an inch from the skin and put the shot into the brain.Hang them up > head down over a pan and cut the neck open to drain the blood.The smaller you > chop an animal up the easier! it > would be to render it. A truck with lift gate,winch,chain hoists,vat or > tank,pans,axes,sharp knives,a .22,overalls,gloves,ect,it could be a nice > business for a couple of guys. stephen > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~> eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups Click here for more details http://click.egroups.com/1/11231/0/_/837408/_/981863469/ -_-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [biofuel] Electricity Generation and Ethanol in Engines
Hi Mike, I'm pretty sure that you can run a gasoline engine on straight ethanol (but it can be as little as 70% pure - balance is water) distilled from home. Only possible modification would be larger jets in carb. OR drill them out a bit. Ethanol also may be a little difficult to start a cold engine with on a cold morn, thus some suggest using a starter tank (like a windshield washer fluid tank) just to start the engine. This info. comes from a couple of books on making your own ETOH for fuel out of the '70s fuel crisis. Like I've mentioned before, the pure ETOH (100% or 200 proof stuff) is necessary for gasahol production to "mix" properly. OK! One of you chemists out there jump in and straighten out the goof ups in my logic---there are many. Also, the recent info (last 10yrs) I've seen on running straight veg oil (rape or otherwise) in an injected diesel motor shows that 1)injectors "coke up" rapidly (clean or replace) and other internal engine wear that I don't remember specifics of. There's quite a bit of info. from University of Idaho Bioengineering Group in this regard. If you're interested, I can look up some Grad student theses on the topic (it might even be on my desk as we speak). Ciao Geoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi there, new member here, fascinated by the discussion. I've been > doing alot of reading, trying to work things through in my mind, and > I need help on two issues, probably fairly basic to everyone else, > but I need clarifying: > > 1. Current thinking is that I can add 10-15%home distilled ethanol to > my petrol, without modifying the engine. O.K.If I want to go to 100% > ethanol, then I'll have to modify (as in motherearth modification) > > In the book, "makin it on the Farm", several pioneers mention running > unmodified engines for thousands of miles on what seems neat ethanol. > Also, are all the cars in brazil modified. Please explain. > > 2. An old message on this list spoke about running a diesel engine on > pre-heated rapeseed oil to drive a generator to supply the grid. Does > anyone know any links/more info on supplying UK national grid with > electricity, on what would be a fairly small scale. > > Thanks Mike > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~> eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups Click here for more details http://click.egroups.com/1/11231/0/_/837408/_/982034424/ -_-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[biofuel] Re:Veg oil motor probs
Hi Art, Sorry so slow in responding to your e-mail on bio-d maintenance issues. The thesis I have on hand is actually called "Economic analysis of rapeseed methyl esters" but does review a bit of the earlier work using straight veg. oil in diesels. I think it was Steve Spence that wrote "there are no coking of injectors if motor is started and shutdown using diesel (bio or dino)." Regarding the above noted review of work: 1)veg oil(VO) had higher peak injection pressure 2) VO had poor atomization (injector) 3)thermal efficiency slightly lower than diesel --most problems appear to be viscosity related and authors suggest reducing viscosity by A) blending VO with dino-d or B) transesterification (biod). Research from International Harvester showed sunflower oil blended with dino-d resulted in: progressive deterioration of atomization at injectors as oil level was increased, build-up of deposits at the injectors, valves, pistons, and liners after a short period of operation. Others have observed sticking piston rings, significant wear and tear of piston and liners, excessive blowby and carbon deposits, noisy idle, to name a few. I can continue to look into this for you but it appears that the glycerine in the VO (they are glycerine esters) can polymerize to form a plastic solid (disacryl) as well as leading to incomplete combustion. They (Dr. C. Peterson et al) support transesterification as the solution. Hope that's a little help. Let me know. Ciao, Geoff Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~> eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups Click here for more details http://click.egroups.com/1/11231/0/_/837408/_/982301663/ -_-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [biofuel] Affordable Fuel Preheater
Hi All, I probably have just missed something in regards to this preheater design (and I must say "CREATIVE"!!) but how does the not yet heated biod get from the cold, cold, fuel tank to the heater? Won't my fuel be gelled in the tank? Or perhaps I just have missed out on the purpose of the preheater altogether. Sorry if this is off-base. "IT"S SWEEPING THE NATION - TRANSESTERIFICATION!" Ciao, Geoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I'm planning to use a 12 volt beverage heater that plugs into the > cigarette lighter to preheat my diesel or SVO fuel. Here's my idea: > Get a glass canning jar with a screw on lid. Insert two plastic > barbed 90 degree to threaded fittings into the lid. They cost me $.65 > each. It will look like the top of your diesel fuel filter. Put two > holes in the lid for the beverage coil heater's positive and negative > leads. Resolder the leads to the wire and screw on the lid. The > beverage heater cost $4.65. I'm looking for an electric temperature > gauge to be attached to show the current temperature. > > Here's my reasons why I designed it using these items. The glass jar > MUST BE ABLE TO WITHSTAND BOILNG TEMPERATURES, so a canning jar will > do the job. A mayonaise jar will shatter!! The fittings can be > screwed into the lid and the fuel line is inserted onto the barb > fittings. The beverage coil heater can heat 250 ml / 1 pint container > very quickly. I found out that the beverage heater can heat 250 ml/8 > oz of 50F/10C water to 170F/75C in about 15 minutes in an open > porcelain mug. My car only uses about a 4liter/quart of fuel an hour. > I can also plug the 12 volt cord into an adapter that plugs into my > 110 volt house current, thereby fully preheating my fuel just before > I leave the house. The temperature gauge is useful, because diesel > fuel's optimum temperature is 160F/71C and Straight vegetable oil > should be around 175F/80C. > > Any suggestions? Anyone have a 250ml / 8oz Mason or Ball canning jar > around your house with a metal top and screw on lid that I can have? > I can buy 12 canning jars for $8.00, but I don't need 11 more 1/2 > pint / 250 ml canning jars!!! > > Greg > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~> eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups Click here for more details http://us.click.yahoo.com/kWP7PD/pYNCAA/4ihDAA/FZTVlB/TM -_-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] BIODIESEL GHANA LTD
If I remember correctly, there is a program in Mali/Burkina Faso or a close neighbor called "The Jatropha Project" in which a local oilseed (Jatropha) is crushed and utilized for oil/biodiesel, and other byproducts. I don't have the website handy but can forward it to you if you want. Good Luck. Ciao, Geoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Dear Sir, > Thanks for having some time for me to read this. > > We are interested in building a Biodiesel Plant in Ghana by using the local > feedstock. > It is a known fact that the world is going to run out of fossil fuel one day. > Closer as it gets, the more expensive fossil fuel becomes. It would not be > long that the world be controlled by the OPEC so far as fuel market is > concerned. > Biodiesel is completely a renewable fuel, does not add to the problems of the > ozone layer, creates jobs internally and strengthens economies. Biodiesel is > safe to handle, non toxic and it degrades very quickly. > > The Plant is be built by the Biodiesel Industries based in Las Vegas, USA. > The President of the organization Mr. Russ Teall is ready to start the > project but our only problem is the funds. Could you please help by donating > any amount or even if you want a Joint Venture, we are flexible. > > I will furnish you with the Biodiesel Industries Acct # number if you respond. > > Hope to hear from you and God bless you. > > Kind regards, > > Quassy Adjapawn > Director > Biodiesel Ghana Ltd > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~> Make good on the promise you made at graduation to keep in touch. Classmates.com has over 14 million registered high school alumni--chances are you'll find your friends! http://us.click.yahoo.com/l3joGB/DMUCAA/4ihDAA/FZTVlB/TM -_-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] BIODIESEL GHANA LTD
Trudy/Greg ? The Jatropha Project looks pretty neat. Do you know of anything similar going forward in Niger? I have a friend from Niger that speaks of how badly things are run in that country. They could use some help if the gov't would allow it. Thanks. Ciao, Geoff Trudy Williams wrote: > > try http://www.jatropha.org/ > > PS. I have a friend working in Mali, Willys Geffard, who still has not > started producing biodiesel and does Economic Development after all my > urgings!! > > Greg > > -- Original Message ------ > From: Geoff Pritchard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 10:04:39 -0800 > > > > > > >If I remember correctly, there is a program in Mali/Burkina Faso or a > >close neighbor called "The Jatropha Project" in which a local oilseed > >(Jatropha) is crushed and utilized for oil/biodiesel, and other > >byproducts. I don't have the website handy but can forward it to you if > >you want. Good Luck. > > > >Ciao, > > > >Geoff > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >> Dear Sir, > >> Thanks for having some time for me to read this. > >> > >> We are interested in building a Biodiesel Plant in Ghana by using the > >> local > >> feedstock. > >> It is a known fact that the world is going to run out of fossil fuel one > >> day. > >> Closer as it gets, the more expensive fossil fuel becomes. It would not > >> be > >> long that the world be controlled by the OPEC so far as fuel market is > >> concerned. > >> Biodiesel is completely a renewable fuel, does not add to the problems of > >> the > >> ozone layer, creates jobs internally and strengthens economies. Biodiesel > >> is > >> safe to handle, non toxic and it degrades very quickly. > >> > >> The Plant is be built by the Biodiesel Industries based in Las Vegas, > >> USA. > >> The President of the organization Mr. Russ Teall is ready to start the > >> project but our only problem is the funds. Could you please help by > >> donating > >> any amount or even if you want a Joint Venture, we are flexible. > >> > >> I will furnish you with the Biodiesel Industries Acct # number if you > >> respond. > >> > >> Hope to hear from you and God bless you. > >> > >> Kind regards, > >> > >> Quassy Adjapawn > >> Director > >> Biodiesel Ghana Ltd > >> > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~> We give away $70,000 a month! Come to iWin.com for your chance to win! http://us.click.yahoo.com/olMXHC/BJVCAA/4ihDAA/FZTVlB/TM -_-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
