RE: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come(Finally an eye is opening)
Keith, I am surprised that you are asking that, since this is known worldwide. KS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Keith Addison Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 2:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come(Finally an eye is opening) And whose eye might that be Klaus? Not yours, I don't think. >Keith, > >You are not right by saying that he did not threaten anybody. You needed to >be there just for half a day and you would have seen what I am talking >about. People being killed by his regime <--- not sure how to spell this >one. Over the years thousands of people. That is what I am talking about. So >there have been many other reasons why it is good that he is no longer in >this possition. Let us not just boil everything down to oil or WMD. > >KS Uh-huh. And more than 100,000 Iraqis killed in the doing, with more Iraqi children starving now than before the Great Liberation (NOT!), and so on and on and on. That last is quite an achievement, consdering the half million children killed by the sanctions before the invasion. You fancy heroic surgery, do you Klaus? The operation was successful, though the patient died? I mean, good grief, you actually believe this has anything to do with Saddam Hussein being a threat? Eyes opening? Are you kidding? Your eyes seem to be wide shut. Why would the US - Washington - bother about some tin-pot dictator who allegedly murdered his people? They've supported, aided and abetted dozens and scores of them in the past, who've killed a lot more people than that. As I said before in this thread, check out William Blum: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/41438/ An Interview with William Blum - The Granma Moses of Radical Writing http://members.aol.com/superogue/homepage.htm Rogue State: A Guide to the World's Only Superpower, by William Blum http://members.aol.com/bblum6/American_holocaust.htm Killing Hope: U.S. Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II, by William Blum http://members.aol.com/bblum6/American_holocaust.htm The American Holocaust If you're not prepared to do that, and acknowledge it, and THEN explain how Saddam's domestic misdeeds explain all and show what you call the big picture, then do not claim that your eyes are open, because that will show that not only are they shut but that it's wilful. Keith >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Behalf Of Keith Addison >Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 7:51 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come(Finally an eye is >opening) > > > >This is great ... finally we are making sense. The WMD is not the issue. > >This is what I have said all along. People miss the big picture. Suddam > >Hussein was the weapon of mass destruction. 100% agreed. > >KS > >Sigh... > >I suppose one man's sense is another man's idiocy, and to each his >own and all that, all jolly good and well... But in fact it's a >matter of what you support, what you go along with, what you accept >wihout questioning, what you oppose, to whose benefit and at whose >expense. > >Which, I'm afraid, makes this idiocy, not sense. Lethal idiocy, >furthermore, with its hands drenched in blood. > >Saddam threatened nobody, certainly not the US. > >Keith > > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Behalf Of Henri Naths > >Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:56 PM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come > > > > > > > >Hakan, > > I would like to give a humble option here, > > ( Hakan wrote;...Criminal, established by the fact that we now know that > >Iraq were no WMD threat to US. ) > >We took out Hitler for the same reason, Him and Suddam Hussein were weapons > >of mass destruction. > >H. > > > > > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Hakan Falk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: 31 March, 2005 7:29 PM > >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come > > > > > > > > > > Bob, > > > > > > You were right and I am wrong and I am glad that I did get > > > a very good explanation on how Hubbert could be so right. > > > > > > It also explains why president Carter was so genuinely > > > worried, when he developed his energy plan. He had the > > > foresight to realize that Hubbert was right. > > > > > > It also explains why we see the surge in the genuine hate > > > of Americans. It is the cost of aggressive and egoistic foreign > > > policies, that resulted in about 10 more years of artificially > > > low oil prices. > > > > > > All of this, ending up in an almost criminal behavior by the > > > Bush administration. I say almost, because I do not want > > > to be too "crude". The legal aspect of being criminal, is very > > > clearly established, Criminal, established by the fact that we > > > now know that Iraq were no WMD threat to US. By laying > > > the responsibility a
RE: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come(Finally an eye is opening)
Keith, You are not right by saying that he did not threaten anybody. You needed to be there just for half a day and you would have seen what I am talking about. People being killed by his regime <--- not sure how to spell this one. Over the years thousands of people. That is what I am talking about. So there have been many other reasons why it is good that he is no longer in this possition. Let us not just boil everything down to oil or WMD. KS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Keith Addison Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 7:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come(Finally an eye is opening) >This is great ... finally we are making sense. The WMD is not the issue. >This is what I have said all along. People miss the big picture. Suddam >Hussein was the weapon of mass destruction. 100% agreed. >KS Sigh... I suppose one man's sense is another man's idiocy, and to each his own and all that, all jolly good and well... But in fact it's a matter of what you support, what you go along with, what you accept wihout questioning, what you oppose, to whose benefit and at whose expense. Which, I'm afraid, makes this idiocy, not sense. Lethal idiocy, furthermore, with its hands drenched in blood. Saddam threatened nobody, certainly not the US. Keith >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Behalf Of Henri Naths >Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:56 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come > > > >Hakan, > I would like to give a humble option here, > ( Hakan wrote;...Criminal, established by the fact that we now know that >Iraq were no WMD threat to US. ) >We took out Hitler for the same reason, Him and Suddam Hussein were weapons >of mass destruction. >H. > > > >- Original Message - >From: "Hakan Falk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: 31 March, 2005 7:29 PM >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come > > > > > > Bob, > > > > You were right and I am wrong and I am glad that I did get > > a very good explanation on how Hubbert could be so right. > > > > It also explains why president Carter was so genuinely > > worried, when he developed his energy plan. He had the > > foresight to realize that Hubbert was right. > > > > It also explains why we see the surge in the genuine hate > > of Americans. It is the cost of aggressive and egoistic foreign > > policies, that resulted in about 10 more years of artificially > > low oil prices. > > > > All of this, ending up in an almost criminal behavior by the > > Bush administration. I say almost, because I do not want > > to be too "crude". The legal aspect of being criminal, is very > > clearly established, Criminal, established by the fact that we > > now know that Iraq were no WMD threat to US. By laying > > the responsibility at the feet of faulty "US intelligence > > community", the Bush administration is trying deliberately > > to avoid their legal responsibility. A kind of reversed side > > of the well known argument "it was not my fault, I was > > ordered to do it". LOL > > > > All of this supported by the America people, in a reelection > > of president Bush. I hear the false argument that only 48% > > voted him in office. This argument is poor mathematics, I > > cannot get to this result, when Bush won with a more than > > 3 million of the populous American vote. It was the first > > election of Bush, that he did not have a populous majority > > and he was put in office by the Courts. > > > > Hakan > > > > > > At 11:16 PM 3/31/2005, you wrote: > >>All I know is what I read in the brief biography. (and what I recall from > >>hearing about his work many years ago) > >> > >>Hakan Falk wrote: > >>>Bob, > >>>I stand corrected and the only excuse I have, is that I only brought > >>>forward a mistake that I read earlier. I remember that it was an article > >>>about the hearings in US congress in mid 70'. Will however not do this > >>>mistake again, but do not despair, there are many others I will do and > >>>surely in my far from perfect English. -:) > >>>What was his field at Berkeley? > >>>Hakan ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come(Finally an eye is opening)
This is great ... finally we are making sense. The WMD is not the issue. This is what I have said all along. People miss the big picture. Suddam Hussein was the weapon of mass destruction. 100% agreed. KS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Henri Naths Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come Hakan, I would like to give a humble option here, ( Hakan wrote;...Criminal, established by the fact that we now know that Iraq were no WMD threat to US. ) We took out Hitler for the same reason, Him and Suddam Hussein were weapons of mass destruction. H. - Original Message - From: "Hakan Falk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 31 March, 2005 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Re: The Energy Crunch To Come > > Bob, > > You were right and I am wrong and I am glad that I did get > a very good explanation on how Hubbert could be so right. > > It also explains why president Carter was so genuinely > worried, when he developed his energy plan. He had the > foresight to realize that Hubbert was right. > > It also explains why we see the surge in the genuine hate > of Americans. It is the cost of aggressive and egoistic foreign > policies, that resulted in about 10 more years of artificially > low oil prices. > > All of this, ending up in an almost criminal behavior by the > Bush administration. I say almost, because I do not want > to be too "crude". The legal aspect of being criminal, is very > clearly established, Criminal, established by the fact that we > now know that Iraq were no WMD threat to US. By laying > the responsibility at the feet of faulty "US intelligence > community", the Bush administration is trying deliberately > to avoid their legal responsibility. A kind of reversed side > of the well known argument "it was not my fault, I was > ordered to do it". LOL > > All of this supported by the America people, in a reelection > of president Bush. I hear the false argument that only 48% > voted him in office. This argument is poor mathematics, I > cannot get to this result, when Bush won with a more than > 3 million of the populous American vote. It was the first > election of Bush, that he did not have a populous majority > and he was put in office by the Courts. > > Hakan > > > At 11:16 PM 3/31/2005, you wrote: >>All I know is what I read in the brief biography. (and what I recall from >>hearing about his work many years ago) >> >>Hakan Falk wrote: >>>Bob, >>>I stand corrected and the only excuse I have, is that I only brought >>>forward a mistake that I read earlier. I remember that it was an article >>>about the hearings in US congress in mid 70'. Will however not do this >>>mistake again, but do not despair, there are many others I will do and >>>surely in my far from perfect English. -:) >>>What was his field at Berkeley? >>>Hakan >>> > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/