Re: [Biofuel] Anybody in central Florida making biodiesel?
The mfger is most likely World out of lakeland. Patrick M Gainesville FL - Original Message - From: "steven mesibov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Anybody in central Florida making biodiesel? > Hey, I'm in Deland, FL. If you (or anyone else) are near by in central > Florida lets talk about joining forces! > > Steve > > --- Alan Petrillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > Since i have several trucks, and a tractor that run on diesel was > > looking at whether anyone near me makes biodiesel and seeing how you are > > making, etc. > > > Thanks, > > > > Where in Florida are you? I'm in St. Petersburg. > > > > Ward Oil in Tampa has biodiesel, but I forget who their manufacturer is. > > > > > > AP > > > > ___ > > Biofuel mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): > > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [biofuel] Mercedes vs. Volkswagon
Steve, I have an opportunity to buy an 1985 mercedes 300dt turbo diesel for $2995 with 102,000 miles on it. A friend from church has a 1981 mercedes and he says he spends an average of $100- $125 a month for maitenance and repairs. Does that sound about right? Of course that amount each month would put me deeper in the poor house each month. Any advice? Thanks Patrick M - Original Message - From: Steve Spence To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Mercedes vs. Volkswagon I've driven and owned both. The vw's are cheaper to fix. repairs on the merc will drive you into the poor house. the vw's are long lasting units. 200-300 k miles. also look at ford and dodge trucks. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter & Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 8:38 PM Subject: [biofuel] Mercedes vs. Volkswagon > Hi, > > I live in Western Pennsylvania and am looking for a good used vehicle > to run on biodiesel. My choices have been rather limited to > Volkswagons and Mercedes. I know the book, "From the Fryer to the > Fuel Tank," recommends used Volkswagons with 5 stars and only gives > Mercedes 3 stars. I am skeptical first simply because the Mercedes > reputation to build quality vehicles and second because I see a lot > of used Volkswagons for sale with rebuilt engines while every used > Mercedes I see has its original engine, some with 250,000 plus > miles! I am particularly looking at pre-1990 cars, so with used cars > dating before 1990, which vehicle do you think is better for > biodiesel and why? > > Sincerely, > > Dave Lusher > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> DVD Rentals with No Late Fees - Try Netflix for FREE! http://us.click.yahoo.com/PdoN7C/pEZFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] Homemade inverters.
Go to google.com and type in inverter plans. Good Luck PM -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:20 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Homemade inverters. Howdy all, Can anyone tell me where to find a design for an inverter (12V DC to 120V AC 60Hz) that can be built by someone with reasonably good electrical technician skills? Thanks. Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com Biofuel at Journey to Forever: HYPERLINK "http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html"http://journeytoforever.org/bi ofuel.html Biofuels list archives: HYPERLINK "http://archive.nnytech.net/"http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the HYPERLINK "http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/"Yahoo! Terms of Service. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 11/13/02 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 11/13/02 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: A barrel of oil
I would guess that because crude oil is thick they probably get more than 42 gallons of products out of a barrel of oil. My 2 cents. Patrick M - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: A barrel of oil >A typical fuel >refinery will obtain 19 gallons of gasoline from each 42 gallon >barrel of crude. Thanks. I think this gives a good introductory answer (for my purposes) but I have so many followup questions that I have to consider it still open. I mean, how often does a refinery tend toward this typical amount? If typically a barrel goes to about 45 percent gasoline, then typically how much diesel is gotten out? But this does give me something to work with, something to give me a general idea. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> 4 DVDs Free +s&p Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] genetic engineering
Yes, please dig them out. Thanx Patrick M - Original Message - From: goat industries To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:00 AM Subject: [biofuels-biz] genetic engineering there are plans to produce crops of genetically modified oil bearing plants. The oil extracted could be used directly as a diesel fuel because it is composed of a high percentage of small chain length molecules. If anyone wants more info i could dig out the relevant papers. Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Kwick Pick opens locked car doors, front doors, drawers, briefcases, padlocks, and more. On sale now! http://us.click.yahoo.com/ehaLqB/Fg5DAA/Ey.GAA/9bTolB/TM -~-> Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] WVO
How much would there be if it was collected from the restaurants in the georaphical area? Thanks Patrick M - Original Message - From: Neoteric Biofuels Inc. To: Biofuel-JTF Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] WVO In Austria, they calculated that the household used cooking oil resource to be 3 kg per head per year. They also calculated that the cost of cleaning it out of sewers. Then they started a household collection program, when the survey showed that only about 1/3 of the householder oil was being collected and the rest dumped down drains or landfilled. They gave out free sealed buckets and set it up to exchange for cleaned ones. Then they ran the buses on the biodiesel made from the WVO that was no longer a cost of sewer maintenance. Double benefit. How much is collected for recycling, from households in North America? Probably zero - I bet it's not even close to a third. It goes down the drain on into the landfill. http://www.cpc.at/itc_frameset_e.html?http://www.cpc.at/itc/biodiesel/home_e .html Regards, Edward Beggs, BES, MSc http://www.biofuels.ca on 5/29/02 11:35 AM, Patrick McBrady at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Does anyone know where I can find figures for WVO per person for any > geographic area? > > In other words how much WVO may be available in an area that has 218,000 > people. > > Thank You > > Patrick M > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/orkH0C/n97DAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] WVO
Does anyone know where I can find figures for WVO per person for any geographic area? In other words how much WVO may be available in an area that has 218,000 people. Thank You Patrick M [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/orkH0C/n97DAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] wvo/biodiesel Help
Does anyone know if there is any equipment and anyone successfully using wvo as feedstock to produce bio diesel in large enough quantities to run any or all of a cities diesel equipment and vehicles? If so who are they and how do I contact them. Thank You Patrick McBrady [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/orkH0C/n97DAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] hydrogen powered cars - am I missing something?
JM, I believe that when hydrogen is used in a fuel cell it is not burned but recombined with oxygen and the recombining of the two produces electricity that will run the electric motor like in the fuel cells used in space. Patrick M - Original Message - From: jmwelter To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 1:57 PM Subject: [biofuel] hydrogen powered cars - am I missing something? I always like to post those tough chemistry questions since I am a chemistry major in college right now, and the current one is one I believe I asked a while back, but got no response. In a car powered by a fuel cell where hydrogen is essentially the main fuel source, or solely the fuel source, what is used to burn it? It may sound like a dumb question, but the atmosphere is 80% nitrogen. If air was used to burn hydrogen, then some of that hydrogen would result in ammonia being produced. Along with the desirable water. Of course, if the oxygen used to burn were generated through hydrolysis there wouldn't be a problem there, or if the hydrogen was used in such a way that it never really escaped the engine and went back into storage as fuel (hydrolyze in some way to return it to free hydrogen gas). It seems to me that you would have to haul oxygen tanks with you, and the emissions from such a vehicle, if not burning hydrogen with pure oxygen, would have to be treated with a catalytic converter, so in the end, you've come full circle. I am not sure if ammonia and oxygen would revert to water and nitrogen gas if sent through a catalytic converter. Any ideas? Or am I totally off on my reasoning here? JEFF Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Oil Presser list For USA WVO and diesel generator business
FYI Here is a website for oil pressers in US http://www.iseo.org/iseo/dir_plant.htm If anyone on the list is near the ADM Valdosta Ga. Plant, please email me off the egroup. This website came www.google.com Good Luck Patrick M - Original Message - From: Craig Reece To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 3:13 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: WVO and diesel generator business Eric, One way around most ot the hassle and regulation involved in using waste fry oil would be to use flush oil. Flush oil is what a oil processor uses (and pays to dispose) when they switch from pressing one kind of oil to another - if they've been pressing soy oil, and are switching over to pressing corn, they'll run several hundred gallons of corn through the equipment prior to pressing new corn oil - at which point the soy-corn flush oil is available for - usually free - hauling away. I'd check the yellow pages and the web for oil pressers or bottles in you 'hood. Craig [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Hydrogen Question and ANSWER?
Go to the following website. He is a current hydrogen experimenter and can answer your questions. http://www.geocities.com/mj_17870/index.html LOL PM [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/47cccB/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Hemp As Biomass
to jerry dycus, where in fl. are you? i'm in gainesville. patrick m - Original Message - From: jerry dycus To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Hemp As Biomass Hi Tim and All, --- Tim Castleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I stand ready to be flamed... Burn, baby, burn. ;-) Other than a slanted view and some fudging with the numbers to make his point look better it's not bad. I disagree on his using Canadian crop output numbers to prove things. Here in Fla as much of the world, we would get 3 to 5 crops a year vs 1 in Canada and more biomass per crop. This lowers storeage costs, makes the $ a lot better. Also oil seed yeilds should alway be considered as 1 of the products rather than the only value. I prefer DD gasififying and/ or fiber for the other products. With gasifiying you still have the minerials to fertilizing. jerry dycus > http://www.fuelandfiber.com/Hemp4NRG/Hemp4NRG.htm > > Tim Castleman __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
