Re: [biofuel] Our new off grid home
Congradulations Steve. I'm anxious to hear more from you about the "how-to's" of your new home endeavours. - Original Message - From: "murdoch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Our new off grid home > On Mon, 10 May 2004 01:09:49 +0900, you wrote: > > >>I have exciting news to share. Today we closed on our off > >>grid home in 5 acres of woods. PV, Wind, Rain Water filled Cistern, > >>Veggie Oil powered VW Rabbit generator, wood heat, etc. Paradise! I > >>will be sharing photo's and construction articles as we expand and > >>improve our little slice of heaven. Expansion of the rain > >>harvester/cistern, and solar water heater with wood backup is the > >>first order of business. > >> > >>Steve Spence > >>http://www.green-trust.org > > > >Congratulations Steve! What you've wanted for so long. > > > >Best wishes > > > >Keith > > That sounds like a serious score. Enough acreage to stretch his wings > in a number of ways, and more progressive technologies than I imagine > usually come with almost any house, even one lived in by open-minded > sustainably-minded progressive people. > > When I bought my place (which in a number of ways does not meet the > level of score that he made) I found that it was somewhat hard to find > such a place, and to get realtors even to make me aware of them. > > Even something as simple as getting home insurance with good credit > can be difficult for a home that is not cut from the usual cloth. I > live in a fire-prone area where everyone is allegedly concerned to > mitigate risk, and the risk affects all of us, and yet even though I > went well out of my way to buy one of the most fire-resistant homes in > the State, the insurance companies just on general principle were of a > mind to reject what was different or unknown to them. It is a myth, > in my view, that the capitalistic process works perfectly in this > sense to encourage construction of items less likely to result in an > insurance payout. > > Anyway, back to the point, for folks who know in their hearts that > they want to make their home purchase consistent, if possible, with > some of their sustainability efforts, I encourage them to insist on > their goals. They may meet a lot of resistance that may cause them to > doubt themselves. > > Forewarned is fore-armed, so I am passing on (i.e.: warning) that many > many people in the real estate business and others, up to and > including folks who have some mind and awareness and enthusiasm for > sustainability issues, will discourage you from buying a ready-made > home along the lines of what you've decided you want (and there is > plenty of variance amongst sustainably-minded people as to what they > want everything from materials to shape to features is up for > debate). > > You can build your own, which I did not do, but I have the feeling > that in a large percentage of cases, this turns out to be a longer > haul (both financially and emotionally) than the owners allow > themselves to be aware of when they first get into it. This is not to > discourage such an impulse... (in fact with a sustainable technology > type home, I think it may sometimes be the only way, and I think this > particular decision is *very* individual-situation dependent) but to > lay out some of what I encountered. > > All in all I'm extremely pleased that I insisted on things to be my > way, and not the way I was told it was normally done, and it looks to > me like we could be hearing a lot from Steve, along the same lines. > > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Small biodiesel processors
Will this include a canola seed press as well Ed? - Original Message - From: "Neoteric Biofuels Inc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 10:44 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Small biodiesel processors > We hope to be adding a small scale processor, as well, by next fall. > > Edward Beggs > http://www.biofuels.ca > > > On Saturday, April 5, 2003, at 05:36 PM, Tom Gehlen wrote: > > > thanks Craig! > > TNG > > - Original Message - > > From: "Craig Pech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 7:14 PM > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Small biodiesel processors > > > > > >> There is a company near St. Louis that makes such equipment. > >> www.biodieselgear.com . > >> > >> Craig > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Tom Gehlen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: > >> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 1:37 PM > >> Subject: [biofuel] Small biodiesel processors > >> > >> > >>> I'm looking for a small, quality, biodiesel process kit/plant---We > >>> are > > new > >>> into this issue and want make diesel from canola oil to begin with. > >>> I'm > >>> hoping to make 100-200 gal. per day minimum. > >>> Are there use processors for sale?? > >>> Does anyone sell such small kits?? > >>> > >>> thanks > >>> > >>> TNG > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > >>> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >>> > >>> Biofuels list archives: > >>> http://archive.nnytech.net/ > >>> > >>> Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > >>> To unsubscribe, send an email to: > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > >> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >> > >> Biofuels list archives: > >> http://archive.nnytech.net/ > >> > >> Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > >> To unsubscribe, send an email to: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > >> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > -~--> > > Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty > > Dollars for Trying! > > http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/i5gGAA/FGYolB/TM > > - > > ~-> > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > Biofuels list archives: > > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Digest Number 1306
Right on. I've just about finished Ben. Netanyahou's work, A Durable Peace, and it was quite an eye opener for me. - Original Message - From: "Crabb, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 6:45 PM Subject: RE: [biofuel] Digest Number 1306 > > > >I can mostly agree with this, MM, but I have absolutely NO sympathy > > >for your ideas on "where we are getting our fuel and at what price". > > >The huge price is to the people of the Middle East, and the world, > > >and there's worse to come, from the same culprits - led, first and > > >foremost, by the US and its oil corporations, which have been > > >twisting that whole region out of shape for generations in order to > > >screw cheap oil out of it. Self-inflicted injury, that's all, and > > >VERY minor by comparison - not (yet) severe enough to force the > > >beneficiaries (wilfully blind American consumer energy wastrels) to > > >look the facts in the face at last. > > > > > crist, someone has been listening to saddam too much. If the US wanted to > get Iraqi oil, then > why wouldnt they just have overtaken all those wells the last time the iraqi > put their hands up after 100 > hours of ground fighting? They aren't out to steal oil, or they also would > have just overtaken Saudi when they had half a million troops there. > > > >Meanwhile Israel hies itself off to the good old US in search of yet > > >another $12 billion in "aid", mostly weaponry, much of it no > > >doubt to > > >be used in terrorist acts against unarmed civilians, business as > > >usual. That just doesn't figure in this cosy little "where > > >we get our > > >oil from" anti-OPEC equation, now does it? Israelis themselves are > > >increasingly opposed to this, vehemently so, but you take no > > >notice - > > >they're wrong, that's that. Or, easier, simply fail to notice it. > > more dikness. Terrorism is acts against civilians for the political cause. > It isnt just defined as violence > that 'happens' to be against what you personally would like to see. How > about i come into your yard and start beating your dog, and when you try to > stop me, i sue you for violence against me.. terrorist! > > If you will notice, there are no Isrealis blowing up cafeterias.. i wonder > why not? lots of civilians there! > > Perhaps your compatriates will get more sympathy when instead of bombing > discos, cafes etc, they tried bombing military targets etc. People seem to > care less if you attack military targets instead of people picking their > nose and reading a book. > > You may not like the 'aid'.. but given that they are the only democracy in > the region, and people around them > outnumber them 70-1..and continually pose threats.. they probably need some > help. > I wonder what the palestinians do with all the aid the US gives them. .. > the most of any country.. including their rich buddies over there. > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I've read that straight ethanol can be used in the Model A Ford. Can it also be used in the Model T and other vehicles of the '20's and '30's? I'm currently restoring a "28 Model A and would like to use it as a daily driver. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Small business owners... Tell us what you think! http://us.click.yahoo.com/vO1FAB/txzCAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
