Right on. I've just about finished Ben. Netanyahou's work, A Durable Peace, and it was quite an eye opener for me. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Crabb, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 6:45 PM Subject: RE: [biofuel] Digest Number 1306
> > > >I can mostly agree with this, MM, but I have absolutely NO sympathy > > >for your ideas on "where we are getting our fuel and at what price". > > >The huge price is to the people of the Middle East, and the world, > > >and there's worse to come, from the same culprits - led, first and > > >foremost, by the US and its oil corporations, which have been > > >twisting that whole region out of shape for generations in order to > > >screw cheap oil out of it. Self-inflicted injury, that's all, and > > >VERY minor by comparison - not (yet) severe enough to force the > > >beneficiaries (wilfully blind American consumer energy wastrels) to > > >look the facts in the face at last. > > > > > crist, someone has been listening to saddam too much. If the US wanted to > get Iraqi oil, then > why wouldnt they just have overtaken all those wells the last time the iraqi > put their hands up after 100 > hours of ground fighting? They aren't out to steal oil, or they also would > have just overtaken Saudi when they had half a million troops there. > > > >Meanwhile Israel hies itself off to the good old US in search of yet > > >another $12 billion in "aid", mostly weaponry, much of it no > > >doubt to > > >be used in terrorist acts against unarmed civilians, business as > > >usual. That just doesn't figure in this cosy little "where > > >we get our > > >oil from" anti-OPEC equation, now does it? Israelis themselves are > > >increasingly opposed to this, vehemently so, but you take no > > >notice - > > >they're wrong, that's that. Or, easier, simply fail to notice it. > > more dikness. Terrorism is acts against civilians for the political cause. > It isnt just defined as violence > that 'happens' to be against what you personally would like to see. How > about i come into your yard and start beating your dog, and when you try to > stop me, i sue you for violence against me.. terrorist! > > If you will notice, there are no Isrealis blowing up cafeterias.. i wonder > why not? lots of civilians there! > > Perhaps your compatriates will get more sympathy when instead of bombing > discos, cafes etc, they tried bombing military targets etc. People seem to > care less if you attack military targets instead of people picking their > nose and reading a book. > > You may not like the 'aid'.. but given that they are the only democracy in > the region, and people around them > outnumber them 70-1..and continually pose threats.. they probably need some > help. > I wonder what the palestinians do with all the aid the US gives them. .. > the most of any country.. including their rich buddies over there. > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/