Re: [biofuel] My FIrst Batch
Hi teoman it looks like you have biodiesel. I did this way: I put a 250 ml of methanol in the blender and added a teaspoon of granulated lye..which is 7 grams of lye. then turn on to mix for 1 minute then added the 1 lt of WVO slowly and turn it on for about 5 minutes or more if your blender doesn't start to burnthen pour it in a jar let it settle for 8 hours and then get the top layer wich is biodiesel...that's what you got..then you have to wash it. get a 2 lt plastic bottle of soft drink and puor it in there..add about 1/3 of water and just swing back and forth let it rest for 20 minutes...the botton should look like creamy thick stuff and water...the top is the biodieselget the biodiesel out,repeat it 3 times until the water looks like soupy water and every time shake it a bit more...then you can boil it to get all the water out...faster way...slower way let it rest for some more hours. then is ready. It should look dark in the shade and like red wine in the sun.and that's it Jorge Escobar - Original Message - From: Teoman Naskali To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 9:47 AM Subject: [biofuel] My FIrst Batch My first batch looks like it is fairly successfull, I found an old scale purely mechanical. With which i managed to measure the NaOH. I mixed it with the methanol in a jar, it took about 25 mins to mix, and in the end result one could almost see very very tiny particles floating. I heated the oil (corn oil) in a jar which i placed in a pan filled with water. I kept the heat constant between 55 and 60 degrees. Then i slowly added the methanol with lye. I kept it at constant temperature for about three hours and i gave it a good shake every half an hour. Can you ruin it by overstirring? Or can i recover it if the reaction has not compleeted because of insufficient stirring? It has been settling for about two hours now. There is some brownish reddis stuff at the bottom, some yellow liquid which i hope is biodiesel and a very thin again reddish brownish layer on top. Tthe biodiesel is not too clear. Does this sound ok? Or have i goofed? HOw can i check if my methanol is good? And if i wash it is this stuff good enough to pour in to my car? I must say i am excited, what is the next step? thanks, Teoman __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Is it all Methanol?...Would I damage my car?
Thanksit really clear up mi mind respect to the methanol recovery...I'm gonna make a 1 liter batch with the recovered methanol to see what happens and i will let you know. thanks again - Original Message - From: Ken Provost To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Is it all Methanol?...Would I damage my car? On Wednesday, June 23, 2004, at 10:32 PM, Vip Video Club wrote: > When I boil the biodiesel and the glycerin to recover some methanol > thru the condenser, what do I get? .Is it methanol or it has any > water > in it? That depends on whether you introduced any water into the reaction mix before distilling. For example, I do a water wash before draining off the glycerine, so there's always a lot of water in the glycerine. You probably don't do that, so the only water present would be small amounts originally in your oil or methanol, or produced as a byproduct of soap from any FFAs in your oil. > How can you tell the diference? Cobalt chloride paper (buy it from the web or a lab supply company) is a crude way, but a distiller's hydrometer is better. Methanol and ethanol have almost the same density, so hydrometers used by homebrewers of beer or wine will work fine. > Can I use it for the next bach > without a worry that can be water in it? Small amounts of water are OK when using methanol, maybe even up to 3-5%, I'm not sure -K Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Is it all Methanol?...Would I damage my car?
Hello everybody.. Can anyboby tell me..When I boil the Biodiesel and the glycerin to recover some methanol thru the condenser,what do I get?It is supoosed to be methanol but How can I be sure.Water and methanol mix?Is it Methanol or It has any water in it?How can you tell the diference?Can I use it for the next bach without a worry that can be water in it? I have mixed 3 gallons of gasoline and 1 liter of biodiesel in my gasoline car and I've been getting a better mileage and it runs excellent.I wanna go for 2 liters now and to see what happens.Would I damage my car by doing so?have any body tried this before?since the gallon of gasoline in Honduras cost 3 dollars I'm desperate to cut down my expenses and the gallon of biodiesel cost me to make it just 1.50. jorge - Original Message - From: Brian To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 8:48 PM Subject: [biofuel] Re: Anybody there? Hey Ken. I'm still here, but it doesn't seem that anyone else is. I had gotten so used to the conversation here in such a short time. I miss it already. Hope it comes back soon. Brian --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Ken Provost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm just waitin for 300 messages to show up -- > but they haven't yet. I actually had a virus > attack over the weekend -- watched my emails > disappear upwards before my very eyes, just > like a spy film (y'know, Clear & Present Danger, > where one guys tryin to delete faster than the > other guy can save off -- SPOOKY, and that's on > a MAC!) > > Anyway, are we back to normal yet? Will we ever be > normal AGAIN?:-) -K Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: What went wrong?
thanks Brian I'm doing another test batch and so far looks like black stuff on the botton..in the middle looks like ligth brown with gummy stuff and a litle bit on top of something like biodiesel but I'm not sure yet.I'll wait till tomorrow to see what looks like...thanks anyway I own a video club that's why of the name...and i registered this address... jorge - Original Message - From: Brian To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 9:12 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re: What went wrong? Jorge, I am trying another test batch this weekend (was unable to put the time in last weekend) with different NaOH. A second test batch following instructions to the T gave the same results. I see the results as an incomplete reaction, with the gummy stuff being an emulsion. I suspect my NaOH supply as the culprit. I'll let folks know if this turns out to actually be the case. Brian --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Vip Video Club" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Im having the same thing as Brian...I did the washing in a jar and i got the same. The 5 gal. bucket that i was processing it turned with a gummy stuff on top and underneath that layer is something like used motor oil. I did everything like the instructions,but something went wrong.It seems like the glycerin went to the top and nothing to the botton of the bucket. > somebody tell me what i did wrong? > Jorge Escobar > - Original Message - > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 8:57 AM > Subject: Re: [biofuel] What went wrong? > > > Brian, > > Any other thoughts? Other than going back and adhering to the instructions > more precisely? > > Nope. Not a one. > > What you apparently have is an incomplete reaction on the base side, leaving > you with a compliment of esters and emulsifiers, the latter being unreacted > mono- and di-glycerides. > > Todd Swearingen > > - Original Message - > From: "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 7:27 AM > Subject: [biofuel] What went wrong? > > > > Well, my first test batch is done, and the end result is less than > > spectacular. Wondering if anyone has any ideas. > > > > I completed the second stage as instructed. 1/2 of my methoxide in, > > mix for 5 minutes, heat to 130 F, add the remaining methoxide and > > mix hot until nice golden amber. This only took about 10 minutes, > > and I continued mixing for a total of 15. Since the instructions > > say it will take one and a half to two hours, I think this may be > > one place that things went wrong, although the appearance when I > > finished was just as described. > > > > I let the mixture settle in an old 2 liter soda bottle for about 6 > > hours, and it looked exactly like the pictures on the JTF web site. > > Clear, golden amber layer on top with dark glycerol on the bottom. > > I called the test batch a great success and went on to wash my new > > biodiesel, which is where the problem came up. I put about 1/3 > > liter water in a clean 2 liter bottle, decanted the biodiesel on top > > of it, then shook. I probably shook a little vigorously, but with > > the assumption that the foolproof method would leave me with product > > which could withstand this type of washing. What I have now is a > > cloudy, murky yellow layer of nearly one liter followed by a guhky > > layer looking most like old soap scum and then a small amount of > > cloudy water. Since the middle layer looks like soap scum, I am > > assuming that is exactly what it is. I assume also that the upper > > layer is biodiesel with water still in it, and may clear > > eventually. The bottom layer is obviously water with the water > > soluble leftovers from the biodiesel process. > > > > My take on the problem is that either I did not heat and stir long > > enough in stage two, overheated in stage one or agitated too > > vigorously in the wash stage. I think it is probably a combination > > of not enough processing in stage two and overzealous agitation in > > washing that caused the problem. Any other thoughts? > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > http:
Re: [biofuel] What went wrong?
Im having the same thing as Brian...I did the washing in a jar and i got the same. The 5 gal. bucket that i was processing it turned with a gummy stuff on top and underneath that layer is something like used motor oil. I did everything like the instructions,but something went wrong.It seems like the glycerin went to the top and nothing to the botton of the bucket. somebody tell me what i did wrong? Jorge Escobar - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] What went wrong? Brian, Any other thoughts? Other than going back and adhering to the instructions more precisely? Nope. Not a one. What you apparently have is an incomplete reaction on the base side, leaving you with a compliment of esters and emulsifiers, the latter being unreacted mono- and di-glycerides. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 7:27 AM Subject: [biofuel] What went wrong? > Well, my first test batch is done, and the end result is less than > spectacular. Wondering if anyone has any ideas. > > I completed the second stage as instructed. 1/2 of my methoxide in, > mix for 5 minutes, heat to 130 F, add the remaining methoxide and > mix hot until nice golden amber. This only took about 10 minutes, > and I continued mixing for a total of 15. Since the instructions > say it will take one and a half to two hours, I think this may be > one place that things went wrong, although the appearance when I > finished was just as described. > > I let the mixture settle in an old 2 liter soda bottle for about 6 > hours, and it looked exactly like the pictures on the JTF web site. > Clear, golden amber layer on top with dark glycerol on the bottom. > I called the test batch a great success and went on to wash my new > biodiesel, which is where the problem came up. I put about 1/3 > liter water in a clean 2 liter bottle, decanted the biodiesel on top > of it, then shook. I probably shook a little vigorously, but with > the assumption that the foolproof method would leave me with product > which could withstand this type of washing. What I have now is a > cloudy, murky yellow layer of nearly one liter followed by a guhky > layer looking most like old soap scum and then a small amount of > cloudy water. Since the middle layer looks like soap scum, I am > assuming that is exactly what it is. I assume also that the upper > layer is biodiesel with water still in it, and may clear > eventually. The bottom layer is obviously water with the water > soluble leftovers from the biodiesel process. > > My take on the problem is that either I did not heat and stir long > enough in stage two, overheated in stage one or agitated too > vigorously in the wash stage. I think it is probably a combination > of not enough processing in stage two and overzealous agitation in > washing that caused the problem. Any other thoughts? > > Brian > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list addr
Re: [biofuel] Washing 1 liter batches
I made a 1 liter batch last week and I did it this way: i mix 200ml.of methanol with a 3 o 4 grams of lye..in my case was a granular lye..is so litlle that i measured with a teaspoon...about 3/4 of the teaspoon.i put it in the blender..and old kitchen blender and shake it.then after is disolved add 1 liter of oil(new in my case) turn the blender on and wow...like milkshake5 minutes and put it in a container ,let it there overnite and next morning get the biodiesel (the top) and i just put it in a jar and add water to it and let it there for 8 hours then get the biodiesel out it should be like lemon juice at this point at the top and a soupy water in the botton,repeat it again and less foamy and cleaner biodiesel.then a got a kitchen pot..and old one and put it in a stove outside..let it boil and a cleaner biodiesel i goti used it allready...i poured it in my 96 gasoline izuzu Rodeo as additive and tomorrow I'll be making more. - Original Message - From: Brian C. To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 10:15 PM Subject: [biofuel] Washing 1 liter batches Hello. I am just starting in the production of my own biodiesel. I have made several 1 liter test batches, but I'm not sure how to wash them. I can't find anything online particular to small batches, but I have found sources that say bubblewashing will be too violent and cause emulsification. Will someone share a success story? Thank you, Brian __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Best Processer
I made a liter last week of biodiesel with an old blender,it was fun.now I'm building the 5 gallon processor wich it will be ready next weeknext it will be the 55 gallons processor and just reading from Keith Addison a learned all this and keep learningthere isn't such a best processor,the one you make it will be the best processor. Jorge - Original Message - From: Keith Addison To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Best Processer Hello Bob >Thanks for your speedy reply. > >What about Biodiesel Solutions, which is endorsed by Joshua Tickell? > > >http://www.biodieselsolutions.com/default.asp :-/ Now how did I know you were going to say that? I suppose it might have something to do with the fact that Rudi Weidegger (who makes the odious FuelMeister) is good at marketing himself, if at little else, and so is Joshua. Re Joshua, here's part of a previous exchange about this: My question is, why is Joshua Tickell pimping for Rudi's FuelMeister joke? What is he getting out of it? Chris >>> >>>Good question - harsh word though, pimping. Maybe Joshua doesn't >>>know from processors. Previously he was hailing the Argentinian >>>processors as good news, and that they're not. >> >>You are right that "pimping" is quite harsh, and possibly the wrong word >>to use, > >:-) Others have been harsher. > >>but I have a problem with Joshua Tickell, who for many, seems to >>be the official spokesperson for the grassroots biodiesel movement > >There have been some harsh words about that too. > >>endorsing processor equipment that is way over priced and looks as >>though it could be ineffective at making quality biodiesel. As you >>stated he just might not really know from processors. And, I would >>question, does he care? > >Hm. I'm quite sure that Joshua cares about biodiesel, let's put it that way. > >>With all the processor designs on your web site, possibly a person who >>considers themselves incapable of plumbing together a processor could >>hire someone to do it for them (local plumber?), and still come out way, >>way, way cheaper than any pre-bought system. Yes indeed, much cheaper and much better. This cost about $100: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor10.html It's WAY superior to any of these allegedly ready-to-use for-sale things. As for Rudi's junk, instead of improving the thing so it might get within spitting distance of doing even a half-assed job, he's now supplying add-ons instead, at a 400% markup, so it now costs $4,300 with an extra tank and a heater, which should be standard, not extra. You could make an excellent processor plus more than 8,000 gallons of high-quality biodiesel for that price. So what exactly is wrong with the thing? Quicker to ask what's right with it - nothing. But, please, do yourself a favour and spend some time reading through this stuff here, previous discussion on the FuelMeister: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/?keywords=fuelmeister&time=6mont hs&usertime=2002-12-31 If that's all a bit much at first you can start with these: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/28752/ Re: Now here's a nice little joke http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/29808/ Re: Off-the-Shelf Processors (When you access the messages, if you hit on "Click here for more on this subject" you get a clickable table of the whole thread.) Nobody here has an axe to grind (except the guy who keeps saying "Why do you have a problem with the FuelMeister?" only it turns out he sells them). We'd all just love to see a good ready-made that did a good job at a reasonable price, but, as I said in the first place, there isn't such a thing, sad to say. So much for the "processor", but it turns out the "process" is as bad or worse - the instructions Rudi sends out with the FuelMeister not only ensure poor quality, they're dangerous: http://forums.biodieselnow.com/post.asp?method=ReplyQuote&REPLY_ID=178 01&TOPIC_ID=2668&FORUM_ID=3 Originally posted by girl Mark >Obviously, the FuelMeister will cost you an extra $3,000-$4,000 for >a reactor made of some really crappy materials, and if you were to >follow their instructons you'd make an inferior product instead of >'biodiesel' (there's no way to make ASTM-grade biodiesel following >their instructions, they've brought back the Dark Ages of methanol >skimping among other things, including suggestions that you should >wear a solvent respirator (there's no such thing for that works >against methanol!!) and that you should open the lid of your >reactor and evaporate a bunch of the excess methanol into your >house/garage/work space after the reaction (duh!) oh and there's a >recommendation to sniff your unwashed (ie very much >methanol
Re: [biofuel] Re: Moving
Moving? I know what you meanI move from the states to Honduras 10 years ago I'm a lot of stuff get lost,broken or just missing...I hope it won't be your case...happy moving!!! Jorge [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] newest in biodiesel
hi everybody... i do nothing but to read all these e-mail from you all, i have been learning a lot.thanks for the good info. I made a litre of biodiesel,it looks pretty nicecan i use it in my gasoline engine (the litre) as a additive since i don't have a diesel engine yet?will it work as a fuel injector cleaner?...i'm so anxious to use it no matter what?...i even used a bit to ligth up the charcoil in the barbecue grill... i hope you all can help me out. Jorge Escobar [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] PVC
HI STEVEN I'M TRIYING TO BUILD MY PROCESSOR AND I NEED SOME IDEASCAN YOU HELP ME. IF YOU HAVE PICTURES I WOULD APRECCIATE YOUR COLABORATION. THANKS. JORGE ESCOBAR - Original Message - From: Steven Pfaff To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] PVC Well Keith, the stuff I'm speaking of is actually white here in the states but it is commonly used for water. More commonly for drainage. So let's hope were thinking of the same thing, It's signifigantly cheaper than steal plumbing. I'm finally getting my first diesel car tomorrow and, I will be making my first test batch before the end of the week. I'm building my processor from Girl Mark's design (it's so darned nice) very soon, you'd be suprised how quickly gave me a used water heater when I told him what I was using it for. Wish me luck, I should be running b100 before the end of the month. Thank you kindly, Steven P.S. I have referred nearly 100 skeptics to the Journey to Forever website. If only half of those check it out and realize how awesome this is I can only imagine what the people on the Journey to Forever have and will accomplish. Best wishes. Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Can PVC pipe be used in processing biodiesel, more specifically in >Girl Mark's fumeless processor? Hi Steven That's the waterpipes, right? Grey stuff. I use it with biodiesel, for instance as standpipes in the processor and settling tank, where it's exposed to the biodiesel, by-product, excess methanol, no problems. If you're going to do joints and right-angles and so on I don't know how the glue would take it. Best Keith Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT - Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
