Re: [biofuel] Ford Ranger Diesel on eBay
HAHA, I can't resist this "ENGINE RUNS GOOD, NO OIL CONSUMPTION".think about it. --- "Alan S. Petrillo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2407022917 > > For those of you, like me, who would like a _small_ > diesel pickup. > > > AP > -- > Aviation is more than a hobby. It is more than a > job. It is more than > a career. Aviation is a way of life. > A second language for the world: www.esperanto.net > Processor cycles are a terrible thing to waste: > www.distributed.net > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> New Yahoo! Mail Plus. More flexibility. More control. More power. Get POP access, more storage, more filters, and more. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Hcb0iA/P.iFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Electric generators
Could you elaborate more on the 3phase motors? I may have a line on an old 9hp 3phase motor and it is looking like i may be using the newly aquiered chevette for an angine and nothing else (can't find a tranny). My future plans are to be self sufficient for power and this is one way i may (and likely will) go. Thanks Jason Gnatowsky --- Ken Basterfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martin, and Darryl, > > It depends on what type of motor and how you connect > it. If it is a > commutator or 'universal' motor i.e. it will run on > ac or dc, then it will > generate if rotated fast enough. However the > commutator is effectively a > rectifier so you would only get dc out. The old > motor car dynamo is a > commutator motor, now of course superseded by the > alternator. > > Induction motors, which run on ac only, can be made > to generate provided > they are run faster than their nominal synchronous > speed. E.g. a 4 pole( 2 > north, 2 south poles) motor will have a synchronous > speed would be 1500 rpm > calculated from 50 (cycles per second) *60 ( seconds > in a minute) / 2 ( the > number of pairs of poles). > It will not however, motor at synchronous speed as > the rotor needs to slip > to generate even enough power to rotate it's own > rotor mass without any > load. The rated speed is about 1420 rpm ( about 80 > rpm slower than > synchronous speed ) at full load off 50Hz, but > drawing a significant lagging > power factor. > > A 6 pole motor would have a synchronous speed of > 1000rpm with rated full > load speed at about 930rpm. > Scale all the speeds by 60/50 for 60Hz operation > > The true synchronous motor is called an alternator > and they are few and far > between if you are on the scrounge, but they are > what you get in a pucka > genset. > > Back to the common induction motor, if you run a 4 > pole motor at say > 1580rpm off 50Hz ( faster than synchronous speed ) > it will deliver current > provided it is connect to a 50 Hz supply, and there > is the difficulty in > trying to use it as a free standing generator. It > needs to draw a small 50 > Hz magnetising current from the mains supply to > allow it to deliver power > back into the mains supply. It is then called an > induction generator. > > Induction generators have specific applications > where they are very useful > e.g in hydro electric pumped stations where the > purpose is to use the head > of water in a high reservoir for supply system load > topping ( assist > conventional generating sets when on max load --e.g > 7a.m to 9a.m.) The > water descends turning a turbine which rotates the > induction motor ( as a > generator to add power to the system ). When the > supply system is on > minimum load e.g. in the afternoon, the motor is > taking power out of the > system to pump the water back up to the top > reservoir awaiting the next peak > demand. All this is economically necessary since it > tales such a long time > to get generating capacity on stream or to shut it > down. It is a sort off > flywheel in which energy can be added when spare and > extracted when needed. > > Another application once quite common is to supply > leading power factor > current to offset the normally lagging power factor > load. It is called power > factor correction and induction generators do it > well. > > If you use a genset to reduce your needs from the > mains supply, or even feed > current ( selling power to your supply company ) > back into the mains supply > if your generating capacity is bigger than your > load, then the induction > generator is ideal. Think of it as winding the meter > back. > > BUT, the big but, most domestic mains supplies are > single phase, and there > are few single phase motors around above about 5hp ( > approx 4 kilowatt ) so > this is about the limit of your home generating > capacity if you are on > single phase. If you have a 3 phase supply you can > generate as much as you > like, in reason, since a 40hp 3ph motor should > easily be obtained second > hand and can supply 30kW as an induction generator > when coupled to a typical > Diesel ( bioDiesel) car engine. > > To give the freedom of generating remote from the > mains supply, it would be > possible to use a small alternator to supply the > magnetising current for an > induction generator but beware, most alternators > would have difficulty in > coping with the leading power factor current coming > out of the induction > generator. > > I hope this helps. > > If any one is making progress on this route to > selfsufficiency I woulod like > to know. > sincerely > Ken > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Darryl McMahon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 7:08 PM > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Electric generators > > > > Martin, > > my understanding is that any AC motor will > generate if turned mechanically > and the > > electrical circuit is made. However, I believe > the frequency (e.g. 60 Hz) > is very > > dependent on
Re: [biofuel] Electric generators
unfortunatly a gas chevette transmission will not work. It is an isuzu M75 (i think). Thanks for the offer. I feel stupid for asking bu where is Regina, Sask? --- bratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you need a standard Chevette transmission? I > have a five speed Chevette transmission, from a gas > engined Chevette. Where are you located? I am in > Regina, Sask. > > There is an interesting conversion of a 2 hp > Induction motor taken off Taiwanese Mill into an > alternator on a wind power plant at > http://www.otherpower.com/danb_windmill.html > > EdB > > > - Original Message - > From: jgnat1488 > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 7:43 PM > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Electric generators > > > Could you elaborate more on the 3phase motors? I > may > have a line on an old 9hp 3phase motor and it is > looking like i may be using the newly aquiered > chevette for an angine and nothing else (can't > find a > tranny). My future plans are to be self sufficient > for > power and this is one way i may (and likely will) > go. > Thanks > Jason Gnatowsky > --- Ken Basterfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Martin, and Darryl, > > > > It depends on what type of motor and how you > connect > > it. If it is a > > commutator or 'universal' motor i.e. it will run > on > > ac or dc, then it will > > generate if rotated fast enough. However the > > commutator is effectively a > > rectifier so you would only get dc out. The old > > motor car dynamo is a > > commutator motor, now of course superseded by > the > > alternator. > > > > Induction motors, which run on ac only, can be > made > > to generate provided > > they are run faster than their nominal > synchronous > > speed. E.g. a 4 pole( 2 > > north, 2 south poles) motor will have a > synchronous > > speed would be 1500 rpm > > calculated from 50 (cycles per second) *60 ( > seconds > > in a minute) / 2 ( the > > number of pairs of poles). > > It will not however, motor at synchronous speed > as > > the rotor needs to slip > > to generate even enough power to rotate it's own > > rotor mass without any > > load. The rated speed is about 1420 rpm ( about > 80 > > rpm slower than > > synchronous speed ) at full load off 50Hz, but > > drawing a significant lagging > > power factor. > > > > A 6 pole motor would have a synchronous speed of > > 1000rpm with rated full > > load speed at about 930rpm. > > Scale all the speeds by 60/50 for 60Hz operation > > > > The true synchronous motor is called an > alternator > > and they are few and far > > between if you are on the scrounge, but they are > > what you get in a pucka > > genset. > > > > Back to the common induction motor, if you run a > 4 > > pole motor at say > > 1580rpm off 50Hz ( faster than synchronous speed > ) > > it will deliver current > > provided it is connect to a 50 Hz supply, and > there > > is the difficulty in > > trying to use it as a free standing generator. > It > > needs to draw a small 50 > > Hz magnetising current from the mains supply to > > allow it to deliver power > > back into the mains supply. It is then called an > > induction generator. > > > > Induction generators have specific applications > > where they are very useful > > e.g in hydro electric pumped stations where the > > purpose is to use the head > > of water in a high reservoir for supply system > load > > topping ( assist > > conventional generating sets when on max load > --e.g > > 7a.m to 9a.m.) The > > water descends turning a turbine which rotates > the > > induction motor ( as a > > generator to add power to the system ). When > the > > supply system is on > > minimum load e.g. in the afternoon, the motor is > > taking power out of the > > system to pump the water back up to the top > > reservoir awaiting the next peak > > demand. All this is economically necessary since > it > > tales such a long time > > to get generating capacity on stream or to shut > it > > down. It is a sort off > > flywheel in which energy can be added when spare > and > > extracted when needed. > > > > Another application once quite common is to > su
Re: [biofuel] Electric generators
Thanks for the geography lesson, i realy should be more up on things like that. Unfortunatly i think the mazda tranny is different. Thanks for the offer! Jason Gnatowsky --- bratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been offered a diesel from a 1984 Mazda truck > and two transmissions for $350 Canadian. I don't > know the owner, and fear that the motor might be > junk. Probably comes with the transmission you > need. > > Regina, Sask is in Western Canada. You can find out > where by going here: > > http://www.expedia.com/pub/agent.dll?qscr=mmfn&&tpid=1&&&&dchg=&&zz=1048692854040&; > > > EdB > - Original Message - > From: jgnat1488 > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 6:38 AM > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Electric generators > > > unfortunatly a gas chevette transmission will not > work. It is an isuzu M75 (i think). Thanks for the > offer. I feel stupid for asking bu where is > Regina, > Sask? > --- bratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Do you need a standard Chevette transmission? I > > have a five speed Chevette transmission, from a > gas > > engined Chevette. Where are you located? I am > in > > Regina, Sask. > > > > There is an interesting conversion of a 2 hp > > Induction motor taken off Taiwanese Mill into an > > alternator on a wind power plant at > > http://www.otherpower.com/danb_windmill.html > > > > EdB > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: jgnat1488 > > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 7:43 PM > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Electric generators > > > > > > Could you elaborate more on the 3phase motors? > I > > may > > have a line on an old 9hp 3phase motor and it > is > > looking like i may be using the newly aquiered > > chevette for an angine and nothing else (can't > > find a > > tranny). My future plans are to be self > sufficient > > for > > power and this is one way i may (and likely > will) > > go. > > Thanks > > Jason Gnatowsky > > --- Ken Basterfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Martin, and Darryl, > > > > > > It depends on what type of motor and how you > > connect > > > it. If it is a > > > commutator or 'universal' motor i.e. it will > run > > on > > > ac or dc, then it will > > > generate if rotated fast enough. However the > > > commutator is effectively a > > > rectifier so you would only get dc out. The > old > > > motor car dynamo is a > > > commutator motor, now of course superseded > by > > the > > > alternator. > > > > > > Induction motors, which run on ac only, can > be > > made > > > to generate provided > > > they are run faster than their nominal > > synchronous > > > speed. E.g. a 4 pole( 2 > > > north, 2 south poles) motor will have a > > synchronous > > > speed would be 1500 rpm > > > calculated from 50 (cycles per second) *60 ( > > seconds > > > in a minute) / 2 ( the > > > number of pairs of poles). > > > It will not however, motor at synchronous > speed > > as > > > the rotor needs to slip > > > to generate even enough power to rotate it's > own > > > rotor mass without any > > > load. The rated speed is about 1420 rpm ( > about > > 80 > > > rpm slower than > > > synchronous speed ) at full load off 50Hz, > but > > > drawing a significant lagging > > > power factor. > > > > > > A 6 pole motor would have a synchronous > speed of > > > 1000rpm with rated full > > > load speed at about 930rpm. > > > Scale all the speeds by 60/50 for 60Hz > operation > > > > > > The true synchronous motor is called an > > alternator > > > and they are few and far > > > between if you are on the scrounge, but they > are > > > what you get in a pucka > > > genset. > > > > > > Back to the common induction motor, if you > run a > > 4 > > > pole motor at say > > > 1580rpm off 50Hz ( faster than
Re: Look out Israel! You're next! was Re: [biofuel] This is cute....
At least i'm not alone in seeing this! $10M/day is an awfull lot of money and weapons for a country the size of NJ!! --- Appal Energy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [snip] > > > > >Even calling it an unprovoked war, is clearly > > > >a manufactured falsehood. > > > > > > In what way was it provoked? > > > > By his not complying with the UN sanctions and > requirements. > > By this logic Israel is at the top of the list for a > subsequent chain of US > invasions. > > Naw...never happenat least not as long as this > country's clock is set to > Double Standard Time. > > Todd Swearingen > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get a FREE REFINANCE QUOTE - click here! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2CXtTB/ca0FAA/i5gGAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] WW2,peroxide power
What was used as the reactant in the nazi "rocket plane"? I know that one of the fuels were h2o2 and when the other liquid was in contact with it, it combusted for more thrust. As i recall the plane was a shoort range (12 min. fly time) interceptor placed near factories and used drop dollies for take off gear. It even had a small prop. on the front that was used for power generation to run the radio and such. Jason Gnatowsky --- gobie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > from > http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/lostsub/hist1939.html > 1940 > German scientist Helmuth Walter demonstrated a > prototype for the first true > submarine, a boat that in theory could operate > submerged for an indefinite > period, unlimited by battery capacity or the need > for atmospheric oxygen. > V.80 gained its power from the decomposition of > highly concentrated (95 > percent) hydrogen peroxide, H2O2, known as > Perhydrol. In essence, when the > chemical breaks down, it releases superheated steam > to drive a turbine along > with oxygen to support conventional combustion for > additional power or for > crew respiration. > > V.80's designer optimized its hull shape for > submerged operations, and the > boat indeed demonstrated exceptional speed -- 28 > knots submerged. It also > demonstrated exceptionally high fuel consumption, 25 > times that of a diesel > engine, at exceptional cost. According to one > source, one > six-and-a-half-hour trial run consumed $200,000 > worth of Perhydrol. > The design showed great promise, but Hitler thought > his war was won, so > plans for production of a series of Walter boats > were put on hold. Research > continued, however, and perhaps eight, in several > variations between 250 and > 300 tons, were put into service in 1943-44. > > Not a nice chemical to be trapped in a big pipe > with, but then notice that > an early design of American nuclear sub used an > alloy of sodium and > potassium metals to transfere the heat from the > reactor to the boilers. I > wonder if anyone who designed these things was game > enough to travel in > them. > Conventional deisel generator and battery subs had > their problems too. > Saltwater in contact with high current producing > chlorine gas. Bad enough to > be in a damaged leaking sub but chlorine as well. > > Regards, Paul Gobert. > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] WW2,peroxide power
AHH.., After a bit of digging, i found the plane and info i was talking about. http://www.nasm.si.edu/nasm/aero/aircraft/me163.htm Messerschmitt Me 163B-1 Komet This is a fasinating way of getting a plane in the sky and was quite successfull for its rushed use. --- gobie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message ----- > From: "jgnat1488" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > What was used as the reactant in the nazi "rocket > > plane"? I know that one of the fuels were h2o2 and > > when the other liquid was in contact with it, it > > combusted for more thrust. As i recall the plane > was a > > shoort range (12 min. fly time) interceptor placed > > near factories and used drop dollies for take off > > gear. It even had a small prop. on the front that > was > > used for power generation to run the radio and > such. > > Jason Gnatowsky > > Jason couldn't find any mention of the rocket > planebut > http://www.constable.ca/v2.htm > details the use of H2O2 in the V2. > Technical Details > The V2 was an unmanned, guided, ballistic missile. > It was guided by an > advanced gyroscopic system that sent signals to > aerodynamic steering tabs on > the fins. It was generally inaccurate due to errors > in aligning the rocket > with it's target, premature shut-off of the motor > and inconsistencies in > electric current in the guidance system. It was > propelled by an alcohol (a > mixture of 75% ethyl alcohol and water), and liquid > oxygen fuel. The two > liquids were delivered to the thrust chamber by two > rotary pumps, driven by > a steam turbine. The steam turbine operated at 5,000 > rpm on two auxiliary > fuels, namely hydroperoxide (100 %) and calcium > permanganate. This system > generated about 55,000 lbs (27,000 to 30,000 Newton) > of thrust. The motor > typically burned for 60 seconds, pushing the rocket > to around 4,400 > ft/second. It rose to an altitude of 52 miles and > had a range of 200 - 225 > miles. > > regards Paul Gobert. > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] WW2,peroxide power
haha, i should have looked ahead in the posts --- gobie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message ----- > From: "jgnat1488" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > What was used as the reactant in the nazi "rocket > > plane"? I know that one of the fuels were h2o2 and > > when the other liquid was in contact with it, it > > combusted for more thrust. As i recall the plane > was a > > shoort range (12 min. fly time) interceptor placed > > near factories and used drop dollies for take off > > gear. It even had a small prop. on the front that > was > > used for power generation to run the radio and > such. > > Jason Gnatowsky > > Jason couldn't find any mention of the rocket > planebut > http://www.constable.ca/v2.htm > details the use of H2O2 in the V2. > Technical Details > The V2 was an unmanned, guided, ballistic missile. > It was guided by an > advanced gyroscopic system that sent signals to > aerodynamic steering tabs on > the fins. It was generally inaccurate due to errors > in aligning the rocket > with it's target, premature shut-off of the motor > and inconsistencies in > electric current in the guidance system. It was > propelled by an alcohol (a > mixture of 75% ethyl alcohol and water), and liquid > oxygen fuel. The two > liquids were delivered to the thrust chamber by two > rotary pumps, driven by > a steam turbine. The steam turbine operated at 5,000 > rpm on two auxiliary > fuels, namely hydroperoxide (100 %) and calcium > permanganate. This system > generated about 55,000 lbs (27,000 to 30,000 Newton) > of thrust. The motor > typically burned for 60 seconds, pushing the rocket > to around 4,400 > ft/second. It rose to an altitude of 52 miles and > had a range of 200 - 225 > miles. > > regards Paul Gobert. > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: "First Quiet Diesel With Duramax Technology" ?
Just a couple of comments from the peanut gallary, I work in a chevy/toyota dealership (im on the toyota side). The duramax (isuzu) is a NICE engine! We have a few of the local boys that are 1) rich 2) into going fast that have them and put power chips in the ecu. I will say that i was more than impressed with power and speed the chip gave to the engines!! They will run faster than alot of the big block gas engine trucks plus they will out pull them every time. If you want a diesel truck and can afford a new one then go with the maxx. Jason Gnatowsky --- murdoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for the info. As to the end part, where they > talk about how > folks don't really consider it at present, that tune > would change > pretty quickly, I think, with certain factors. Such > as: if the price > of gasoline went way up and diesel seemed like a > somewhat more > affordable solution. Or if diesels came in a wider > variety of > consumer vehicles, and not just in a very limited > number of consumer > vehicles or in large trucks. Folks will come around > pretty quickly, I > think. > > Kerry got lambasted a year or two ago for daring to > say welcoming > things toward Diesel in our future, but hopefully, > as Americans wake > up to the fact that the diesel fuel we're using has > been second-rate > for some time now, and that the engines haven't been > as good or as > plentifull as what seems available in Europe, he'll > get a little > credit for having been on the forefront and for > having seen that, when > the fuel is cleaned up and the engines are modern, > it's a part of the > solution and no longer part of the problem. > > Also: I wonder if any of the technology which GM and > others have > devised is partly from the PNGV 80 mpg car program? > Probably, some of > it, in a way, when one takes a view of R+D as a > whole. > > > > On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 06:28:26 -, you wrote: > > >Here below in quotations is what GM has to say > about their new > >engine. The information is generally true because > the market > >is "forcing" engine manufacturers to come up with > cleaner burning > >engines and other new technologies such as advanced > carbeuration > >systems, etc. > > > >For the tecnical story, also go the the EMA (Engine > Manufacturers > >Assocition: > > > >website.http://www.enginemanufacturers.org/about/ > > > >GM says: > >http://gm.com/company/gmability/adv_tech/600_tt/630_today/clean_diesel > >_050103.html > >"New diesel engines, like General Motors Corp.'s > Duramax 6600, use > >electronic, high-pressure fuel injection to monitor > engine > >performance and vehicle activity, while at the same > time optimizing > >the mix of air and fuel in the combustion chamber. > When used with > >variable injection timing, a redesigned combustion > chamber and > >turbocharging, clean diesels optimize fuel > combustion, reducing the > >amount of soot and nitrogen oxide emitted. > > > >While clean diesel technology has yet to take root > in the U.S., the > >European Union has been reaping the environmental > benefits of diesel > >engines for years. According to the Washington, > D.C.-based Diesel > >Technology Forum, one of every three new cars sold > in Europe is > >powered by clean diesel technology, and in the > premium and luxury > >categories, more than 70 percent are clean diesels. > These vehicles > >produce a net effect of 30 percent to 60 percent > fewer greenhouse gas > >emissions than comparable gasoline engine models > and get > >significantly better fuel economy." GM website > > > >"Despite limited availability and lack of consumer > knowledge, nearly > >one in three new-vehicle buyers in the U.S. said > they would consider > >purchasing clean diesel technology approximately > the same number > >that stated they had heard of the technology, > according to a J.D. > >Power and Associates survey." - GM website > > > > > > > > > >-- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, murdoch > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> GMC has been advertising this engine on TV, as > part of their "We're > >> Professional Grade" image ads. I'm just > wondering what there is > >about > >> these GM engines that is good or bad, and whether > we could see it in > >> cars. > > > > > > > > > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > >Biofuels list archives: > >http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > > >Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list > address. > >To unsubscribe, send an email to: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > = Jason Gnatowsky They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -
Re: [biofuel] Re: "First Quiet Diesel With Duramax Technology" ?
I will try in the next few days to take the digi cam with me to work and pop off a few "under hood" shots of things that i found to be interesting. Ill try to get this done as soon as i can --- Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Isuzu makes transaxles for many GM cars. > > murdoch wrote: > > >Jason: > > > >Is it really Isuzu designed or manufactured? I ask > because it seems a > >bit much for GM to portray this "We are > professional Grade" design > >philosophy when they have to buy into a company and > get this engine > >from them, if that's what they're doing, rather > than doing it > >in-house. But maybe someone can clarify if that's > what's happened? > > > >On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 17:45:40 -0700 (PDT), you > wrote: > > > > > > > >>Just a couple of comments from the peanut gallary, > I > >>work in a chevy/toyota dealership (im on the > toyota > >>side). The duramax (isuzu) is a NICE engine! We > have a > >>few of the local boys that are 1) rich 2) into > going > >>fast that have them and put power chips in the > ecu. I > >>will say that i was more than impressed with power > and > >>speed the chip gave to the engines!! They will run > >>faster than alot of the big block gas engine > trucks > >>plus they will out pull them every time. If you > want a > >>diesel truck and can afford a new one then go with > the > >>maxx. > >> Jason Gnatowsky > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > -- > Martin Klingensmith > http://infoarchive.net/ > http://nnytech.net/ > > > > = Jason Gnatowsky They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Lung ingestion from depleted uranium
Aint it nice that the UN lists "DU" as a "weapon of mass destruction"? Why do we (the us) use the same class of weapons that we are supposed to be going after? I love this country but can't stand governmental BS! end of rant --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The fact that depleted uranium is absorbed in "soil > and groundwater" > is not so significant as those submicron particles > absorbed in lung tissue, > which remain in the aviola portion of the lung. > > I have not heard this source of radioactive > contamination, and the resulting > hazard, mentioned with the DU hazard. But I > question why this would not be > the the most significant hazard since the submicron > particles get in the > lower lung, stay there, and continuously emit alpha > and beta particles which > penetrate the soft tissue and are highly damaging. > However, it is, in the > accompanying article, as if don't worry about it > unless you ingest it from eating > and drinking. > > Lung ingestion was the hazard I was most concerned > with years ago at the Oak > Ridge National Laboratory when as a chemical > engineer I developed a > chemical process involving thorium, and having a > sub-micron by product of thorium > oxide particles. > > Imagine this much sub-micron uranium oxide materal, > as below, floating > around in the environment, doing damage not only to > the lung tissues of soldiers > but to the general Iraqi population. Makes you > wonder if this hazard was ever > assessed as a health physics problem. > > It is the immediate effects of radioactive > contamination which appear to be > described in the article below. The long term > effects, which I was concerned > about from lung ingestion while working with sub > micron particles of thorium > dioxide some 40 years ago, were carcinogenic, where > cancer develops, say, 20 > years after ingestion. That question needs to be > asked about these DU sub > micron particles. As I recollect, in that the Dept > of Energy possess the > necessary health physics capabilities to provide the > answers. > > Glenn Ellis > > The article follows: > > It's a year into the occupation and U.S. troops are > being killed at a > rate of more than four a day. These deaths from > roadside bombs, suicide > attackers, anti-U.S. militia and mobs of angry > civilians make > headlines. > > More quietly, American soldiers also are beginning > to suffer injuries > from a silent and pernicious weapon material of U.S. > origin-depleted > uranium (DU). > > DU weaponry is fired by U.S. troops from the Abrams > battle tank, A-10 > Warthog and other systems. It is pyrophoric, burning > spontaneously on > impact, and extremely dense, making DU munitions > ideal for penetrating > anenemy's tank armor or reinforced bunker. It also > is the toxic and > radioactive byproduct of enriched uranium, the > fissile material in > nuclear weapons. > > When a DU shell hits its target, it burns, losing > anywhere from 40 > percent to 70 percent of its mass and dispersing a > fine toxic radioactive > dust that can be carried long distances by winds or > absorbed into the > soil and groundwater. > > The U.S. Army and Air Force have fired 127 tons of > DU munitions in Iraq in > the last year, says Michael Kilpatrick, the > Pentagon's director of the > Deployment Health Support Directorate. > > At the beginning of April-the deadliest month of the > war and occupation > so far-a New York Daily News investigation found > that four National > Guardsmen have been contaminated by radioactive > dust. > > The men were part of the 442nd Military Police > Company based in > Orangeburg, New York, which went to Iraq last summer > to guard convoys > andprisons and train the new Iraqi police. While the > whole company is due > back in the United States by the end of April, a > number of soldiers > were sent home early, suffering from persistent > headaches and fatigue, > nausea and dizziness, joint pain and excessive > urination. > > They sought medical attention and testing from the > Army but were > ignored. > > Nine of the returned soldiers, frustrated with this > treatment, sought > independent testing and examination from a uranium > expert contracted by > the New York Daily News. The independent expert's > tests showed four of > the soldiers had high levels of depleted uranium in > their systems. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > = Jason Gnatowsky "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/bi
Re: [biofuel] Re: Oil and Israel - Keith
HAHA..ROFLMAO!! I'm glad that someone else knows about that. --- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Arthur > > You lose! > "As a > Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a > comparison > involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." There is > a tradition in > many groups that, once this occurs, that thread is > over, and whoever > mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever > argument was in > progress. = Jason Gnatowsky "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759. __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
