[biofuel] Re: Methanol Source
OK, here's the results of my price survey in Dallas, Texas on 02/12/01. These prices are for pickup at the warehouse in US dollars. Found these vendors under Solvents in Yellow Pages. (Called four vendors) One drum @ 55 gallons - $2.16/gal to $2.48/gal = $119 to $136 Quoted last week from racing fuel vendor 55 gallons for $110 (Called four, only one sold in 5 gal can) One can @ 5 gallons - $3.45/gal + $5.00 for can = $18 ($22 w can) Consensus was that the price of natural gas was driving up the price over the last couple of months. Even with the increase, comes in at 50 to 70 cents per gallon for boid. This excludes labor and energy in production process. JV Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~ eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups Click here for more details http://click.egroups.com/1/11231/0/_/837408/_/982009660/ -_- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[biofuel] Mad Cow Exposure
Heard a discussion on NPR (National Public Radio) last week on how the virus(prions) are transmitted. They are NOT in the meat but in the brain and spinal tissue of the carcass. So you won't be exposed by eating a steak, etc. Where you will get it is from products made when they smash/grind the remainder of the carcass to make meat byproducts. That's how it ends up in animal feed and pet foods, etc. Made me wonder though if products like potted meat, hot dogs, and vienna sausages could contain this stuff. So relative to rendering the fat to produce biod just don't use the head or spinal column in the process. Since I'm on this subject, here's a personal experience from Texas USA. Raise hogs and take them to a local processor for the trip to my freezer. As I'm unloading the hogs, a trailer pulls up with a cow who cannot stand up and looks mad. Animal clearly has a neurological problem. They pull the trailer up to the back of the plant and use a winch to unload the cow. Literally had to drag the cow out of the trailer. As this is happening am watching the farmer. We make eye contact and my intuition tells me something is not right and he knows it! I grew up in the poor part of town and so had to develop a survival sense(street smarts)of when things were not right. This whole sequence gave me a bad feeling, like when I was somewhere I shouldn't be. Not sure if he intended to use this animal for personal consumption or is selling to the processor for sale to the public. Conclusion, there are animals out there today that are being processed which have neurological problems. Since the disease takes ten years to show symptoms, we may all have been exposed. JV Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~ eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups Click here for more details http://click.egroups.com/1/11231/0/_/837408/_/981817646/ -_- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[biofuel] Re: Methanol Source
Thanks, Dale. So I am talking to the wrong folks. Will report on results next week. Was told that since most methanol in the US is produced with natural gas that the cost has increased recently by $20 a 55 gal drum. Excluding labor, is the 50 to 70 cents range what it is costing you to produce biod? Have searched the archives but didn't find any info on the cost of production. Keith, do you have a link/source for the cost of individuals to produce biod? Thanks, JV Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~ eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups Click here for more details http://click.egroups.com/1/11231/0/_/837408/_/981818919/ -_- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[biofuel] Re: John Deere Two Cylinders
John,
I'll start by saying that I find people named John naturally handsome
and intelligent.
Although I appreciate your response, here's what the boys on the John
Deere list have to say:
Older tractors were designed for All Fuel. Which means they were
started on gas small Tank, and after warmed up they were switched
over to the large Tank which could have gas, kerosene, diesel,
ethanol, or a homemade brew. Gas was expensive in those days so it
was not easily afforded by most farmers to burn all the time. It was
practically impossible to start a cold gas engine on all fuel of your
choice, because of the low octane ignition point, so they would
have a small tank of gas which was higher in octane and easier to
start, then after the tractor was warm it was switched over and then
it could burn the all fuel. All though you always needed to run the
carb dry or switch it back over to gas before shutting it off so you
could start it again next time. Hope this helps. Bill {Antique
Acres}
So I suspect that these things will run on anything that burns and is
liquid. Will just have to try it and see. I'll report the results for
the benefit of the list.
JV
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[biofuel] Re: John Deere Two Cylinders
John, Put a post yesterday on a list for old John Deere tractors (1930- 1950). I have two Model B's made in 1940 1943. They're the All Fuel models with two tanks(gas other). There are two pistons mounted horizontally that are about 8 to 10 inches in diameter. Reminds me of a steam locomotive when running. Gives a feeling of raw simple horsepower. The consensus of the old timers is that if the tractor has the low compression pistons it will work fine. However many were upgraded when rebuilt and had higher compression pistons installed. The higher compression WILL cause knocking and other things you mentioned. Will let the list know the results. JV Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[biofuel] John Deere Two Cylinders
Does anyone have any experience using John Deere two cylinder tractors running biod or straight WVO? These tractors came with two fuel tanks, a small one for gas and the larger one for other fuels. These tractors were marketed to replace the horse drawn equipment and so had to burn whatever was available in the 1930's. The sales literature implies that kerosene, fuel oil, etc. would work. The process is to start the tractor on gas. Run it until the water temperature is 180F, and then switch to the other fuel. The tractor has a power takeoff that's rated at 15HP. Would like to run a generator. The 15HP should be able to power a 10KW unit. Comments/Suggestions/Recomendations? Thanks, JV Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[biofuel] Re: biodiesel in SF East Bay
Have you had any problems with the rubber hoses from the fuel line to the first filter(the small plastic one)? Are you using a one or two stage process to produce the biodiesel? TIA, JV Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
