Re: [Biofuel] Lots of questions
Thanks Kim You are right ~BEST~ Roy Kim Garth Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, Many people are switching from electric hot water to propane, so the electric hot water heaters are available. Bright Blessings, Kim At 09:15 AM 3/31/2005, you wrote: Ken Where do you get a SPENT hot water heater that doesn't leak. For me ... that would be the reason to get rid of it. Thankks Wide open for ideas Roy ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Roy Washbish Certified Health Coach A HOME BUSINESS PRODUCTS THAT WORK PRODUCTS BUSINESS HTTP://WWW.TRIVITA.COM/11393920 - Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Lots of questions
Thanks for the suggestions. I am planning to process on the scale that presents itself (based on whatever every free equipment finds me). However, I have been thinking that spent hot water heaters seem to be the way to go for processors. Thanks again, Ken ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Lots of questions
Ken Where do you get a SPENT hot water heater that doesn't leak. For me ... that would be the reason to get rid of it. Thankks Wide open for ideas Roy Ken Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Darryl, Thanks for the suggestions. I am planning to process on the scale that presents itself (based on whatever every free equipment finds me). However, I have been thinking that spent hot water heaters seem to be the way to go for processors. Thanks again, Ken ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Roy Washbish Certified Health Coach A HOME BUSINESS PRODUCTS THAT WORK PRODUCTS BUSINESS HTTP://WWW.TRIVITA.COM/11393920 - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Lots of questions
Hi Roy, I have thought about that. It seems that I can probably find one that had a burned out element or an older low efficiency model and was replaced with a new fancy one. Also, any leak that isn't causing a deluge is probably weldable. Like I said, I'm keeping my eyes open for the best free option that presents itself. I have read that many people use standard old 55 gallon drums. That option won't work for me as my wife will not find the corrosion acceptable. She already needs a bit on convincing. Do you have another suggestion for a free/very cheap reaction vessle? Thanks for your input, Ken ROY Washbish [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Ken Where do you get a SPENT hot water heater that doesn't leak. For me ... that would be the reason to get rid of it. Thankks Wide open for ideas Roy Ken Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Darryl, Thanks for the suggestions. I am planning to process on the scale that presents itself (based on whatever every free equipment finds me). However, I have been thinking that spent hot water heaters seem to be the way to go for processors. Thanks again, Ken ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Roy Washbish Certified Health Coach A HOME BUSINESS PRODUCTS THAT WORK PRODUCTS BUSINESS HTTP://WWW.TRIVITA.COM/11393920 - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ -- ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Lots of questions
Many people are switching from electric hot water to propane, so the electric hot water heaters are available. Bright Blessings, Kim At 09:15 AM 3/31/2005, you wrote: Ken Where do you get a SPENT hot water heater that doesn't leak. For me ... that would be the reason to get rid of it. Thankks Wide open for ideas Roy ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Lots of questions
Hi all, I am sure this will be a highly redundant request to most - sorry. I hope to soon be a fellow bio-brewer. I have been doing a lot of research and I am now prepared (mentally anyway) to begin refining test batch equipment and procedures. After I get titration and test batch processing conquered, I plan to use the Foolproof method and would like to try to develop a hands-off system. The Supreme Commander requires that this be a low budget operation. That said, the immediate stumbling block is that of a quality affordable scale. Or maybe it's not. Any recommendations on scales? From much of the information that I've read, acids and bases and catalysts are generally a hardware store type item for someone just starting out. Are there other sources of these supplies that might reduce cost, packaging wastes and trips to the Mega Hardware Hut and can provide these things on a scale appropriate for me? Once you've produced your first *quality* liter of biodiesel, what is your test apparatus? I have contemplated renting a diesel generator for this purpose. Is that a good idea? Are there other functional tests that can be performed prior to subjecting an engine to my fuel? A bit of background (just a bit) - I live in Lancaster County, PA and would like to tour an individual processor if someone is nearby. I plan to eventually replace my heating oil with B100 and also fuel my car with the same. I will be installing a solar hot water heater for DHW and radiant heat later this year if anyone is interested in comparing notes for those sorts of things. I have also contemplated solar hot water as my heat source during biofuel processing. Has anyone successfully done this? Thanks, in advance, for the bandwidth for you time, Ken ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Lots of questions
Kenny Dunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I am sure this will be a highly redundant request to most - sorry. I hope to soon be a fellow bio-brewer. I have been doing a lot of research and I am now prepared (mentally anyway) to begin refining test batch equipment and procedures. After I get titration and test batch processing conquered, I plan to use the Foolproof method and would like to try to develop a hands-off system. The Supreme Commander requires that this be a low budget operation. That said, the immediate stumbling block is that of a quality affordable scale. Or maybe it's not. Any recommendations on scales? I started with jeweller's scales. Works OK for small quantities, but finicky. They were cheap on ebay (under US$5 plus shipping). I have since acquired a triple beam balance scale (Ohaus), also on ebay. Had to be patient to find a reasonable deal on one. Watched several go by where I was outbid. Still, for the money, I recommend the Ohaus or similar. Much wider range of usability, less finicky, harder to knock over. From much of the information that I've read, acids and bases and catalysts are generally a hardware store type item for someone just starting out. Are there other sources of these supplies that might reduce cost, packaging wastes and trips to the Mega Hardware Hut and can provide these things on a scale appropriate for me? Hardware stores work for me. Lye comes in various size containers, up to 2 litres, as stock items. Methanol (methyl hydrate) is sold as a paint thinner, again in various sizes, 4 litres is a commonly stocked item. What scale do you plan to operate on? Methanol can also be acquired in drums - try racing specialty shops. Drugstores are good for alcohol. Pool supply stores are a possibility for phenolphthalein. Aquarium supply houses are handy for items like low volume pumps and pH testers. Still, I acquired most of my equipment on ebay. Patience is definitely a virtue if you go that route. Once you've produced your first *quality* liter of biodiesel, what is your test apparatus? I have contemplated renting a diesel generator for this purpose. Is that a good idea? Are there other functional tests that can be performed prior to subjecting an engine to my fuel? I just gave my production to a friend who was quite happy to take some free fuel, fully aware of its pedigree and the research I had done prior to brewing. No issues, but this probably constituted a B10 blend in his tank. Check the biofuel archive for more on testing your fuel. A bit of background (just a bit) - I live in Lancaster County, PA and would like to tour an individual processor if someone is nearby. I plan to eventually replace my heating oil with B100 and also fuel my car with the same. I will be installing a solar hot water heater for DHW and radiant heat later this year if anyone is interested in comparing notes for those sorts of things. I have also contemplated solar hot water as my heat source during biofuel processing. Has anyone successfully done this? I use solar heating for domestic hot water (batch in-line pre-heater) about six months of the year (when it doesn't regularly drop below freezing at night). I have not used it for heating the oil. Thanks, in advance, for the bandwidth for you time, Ken -- Darryl McMahon http://www.econogics.com/ It's your planet. If you won't look after it, who will? ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
