Re: [Biofuel] Peugeot 1981 505 S TD Mechanical info please
Hi, the Haynes are good except for the inaccuracies! I would also suggest some of the Owners groups: AussieFrogs is an Australian one, & there is some useful info in the ACT Peugeot club site (Australian Capital Territory P Club) There are some aftermarket parts suppliers that have much better prices than Peugeot Genuine, & much comes from the same suppliers as genuine. So, Google around, subscribe to lists, & ask questions: all will be revealed! regards Doug On Sunday 20 November 2005 8:20, Sam Critchley wrote: > Hi Brian, > > I used to have a Peugeot 305 diesel which was a great car. I bought it at > 200,000 miles after it had been a taxi in Portsmouth. The engine died at > 240,000 unfortunately, but a reconditioned replacement only cost about > £400 including shipping and fitting. > > I would recommend the following company which is the most popular > publisher of car maintenance manuals in the UK: > > http://www.haynes.co.uk > > If you follow the links Car Maintenance -> Manuals (English Language) -> > Haynes Manuals (UK) -> Peugeot, you will see the following book: > > Peugeot 2.0, 2.1, 2.3 and 2.5 litre Diesel Engines (74 - 90) > > You can still get parts from Peugeot dealers in the UK. I would try the UK > Peugeot owners' club as well, and of course if you speak French you're > sorted. There are also quite a few Peugeots in Quebec and in the Caribbean. > > Thanks, > > > Sam > > > On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 13:35:03 +0200, Brian Rodgers > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am new to Peugeot and diesel engines. I have no books for this fine > > looking car. I was a pro VW mechanic during the 70s and early 80s. Now > > I am a pro electronics tech. I prefer to read about a job before I do > > the wrenching. I have a decent garage in which I am able to weld with > > gas and electric and of course I am very handy with the electronics. I > > am often asked for advice on various home auto repair projects to > > which my first suggestion is to get the book and if possible get the > > official service manuals and read them. I am not a magician, merely a > > mechanic and lately I work only on our fleet of ranch vehicles. > > > > This said, I am about to pull the head off of my Peugeot not knowing > > where hoses and wires will return to nor what they do, then attempt to > > buy a head gasket from I don't know where. Not my ideal way of > > working, and certainly goes against everything I have preached all > > these years. > > > > I have rarely worked on a diesel engine and never a turbo diesel. I > > need to understand how the Peugeot turbo works and if it is working. I > > would like to test it while the head is off as this seems like as good > > a time as any since it is under the manifolds. I joined the Yahoo > > Peugeot-L group but they don't seem to know where to get information > > either as I have posted numerous requests for service manuals and > > parts ordering contacts. I don't mean to sound ungrateful the Peugeot > > group gave me the name of one guy in Vermont who seems to have access > > to a microfiche. Remember those? I even own a reader which if I dug > > around in the barn I might even be able to lay hand to. Still, he has > > the info not me. As far as I am concerned it is like saying," I have a > > gun, not here but I have one." > > > > Questions I have put forward to date are: White exhaust smoke and > > expanding coolant hoses are invariably signs of a blown head gasket, > > where do I buy parts? Where do I look up information online? Does > > Peugeot really not have a decent web presence? Sorry if I am > > forgetting those who wrote back and given advice and those who told me > > of Mr.Brian Holm, I have written to him. I should call and may do so > > from work tomorrow. I feel exposed not having anything going for me. > > > > Anxious in New Mexico > > Brian Rodgers > > www.outfitnm.com > > The Outfit > > 801 Douglas Ave. #1 > > Las Vegas New Mexico 87701 > > 505-454-9661 > > > > ___ > > Biofuel mailing list > > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > > messages): > > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Peugeot 1981 505 S TD Mechanical info please
Hi Brian, I used to have a Peugeot 305 diesel which was a great car. I bought it at 200,000 miles after it had been a taxi in Portsmouth. The engine died at 240,000 unfortunately, but a reconditioned replacement only cost about £400 including shipping and fitting. I would recommend the following company which is the most popular publisher of car maintenance manuals in the UK: http://www.haynes.co.uk If you follow the links Car Maintenance -> Manuals (English Language) -> Haynes Manuals (UK) -> Peugeot, you will see the following book: Peugeot 2.0, 2.1, 2.3 and 2.5 litre Diesel Engines (74 - 90) You can still get parts from Peugeot dealers in the UK. I would try the UK Peugeot owners' club as well, and of course if you speak French you're sorted. There are also quite a few Peugeots in Quebec and in the Caribbean. Thanks, Sam On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 13:35:03 +0200, Brian Rodgers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am new to Peugeot and diesel engines. I have no books for this fine > looking car. I was a pro VW mechanic during the 70s and early 80s. Now > I am a pro electronics tech. I prefer to read about a job before I do > the wrenching. I have a decent garage in which I am able to weld with > gas and electric and of course I am very handy with the electronics. I > am often asked for advice on various home auto repair projects to > which my first suggestion is to get the book and if possible get the > official service manuals and read them. I am not a magician, merely a > mechanic and lately I work only on our fleet of ranch vehicles. > > This said, I am about to pull the head off of my Peugeot not knowing > where hoses and wires will return to nor what they do, then attempt to > buy a head gasket from I don't know where. Not my ideal way of > working, and certainly goes against everything I have preached all > these years. > > I have rarely worked on a diesel engine and never a turbo diesel. I > need to understand how the Peugeot turbo works and if it is working. I > would like to test it while the head is off as this seems like as good > a time as any since it is under the manifolds. I joined the Yahoo > Peugeot-L group but they don't seem to know where to get information > either as I have posted numerous requests for service manuals and > parts ordering contacts. I don't mean to sound ungrateful the Peugeot > group gave me the name of one guy in Vermont who seems to have access > to a microfiche. Remember those? I even own a reader which if I dug > around in the barn I might even be able to lay hand to. Still, he has > the info not me. As far as I am concerned it is like saying," I have a > gun, not here but I have one." > > Questions I have put forward to date are: White exhaust smoke and > expanding coolant hoses are invariably signs of a blown head gasket, > where do I buy parts? Where do I look up information online? Does > Peugeot really not have a decent web presence? Sorry if I am > forgetting those who wrote back and given advice and those who told me > of Mr.Brian Holm, I have written to him. I should call and may do so > from work tomorrow. I feel exposed not having anything going for me. > > Anxious in New Mexico > Brian Rodgers > www.outfitnm.com > The Outfit > 801 Douglas Ave. #1 > Las Vegas New Mexico 87701 > 505-454-9661 > > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > -- Sam Critchley - mailing-list address A2B Location-Based Search Engine - http://www.a2b.cc - Find websites near a geographical location - Search using a GPS device or from a map - Register your blog and see your neighbours in blogland ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Peugeot 1981 505 S TD Mechanical info please
Here is one: Hi, Brian- I am not much of a mechanic. That disclaimer being issued, let me say this- White exhaust smoke can be and often is a symptom of a blown head gasket. White smoke can also be symptomatic of oil burning. White smoke from a blown head gasket is actually steam produced from coolant entering the combustion chamber(s). When you fired the Peugot up the first time, I put my hand in the white exhaust stream. It did not feel particularly humid, which it would if the white were due to billows of steam being produced. As I recall, the pungent stink of burning anti-freeze, which would be present if coolant was exiting the exhaust, was also missing. Moreover, in my limited experience, the white smoke from a blown head gasket does not go away when the engine warms up. Are there alternate hypotheses which would account for ballooning coolant hoses and white smoke on start-up? I can think of at least one, and I am no diesel guru. From what I recall of your coolant system, there was some conspicuously bass-ackwards backyard mechanicking done. E.G, The thermostat housing was entirely absent and the thermostat was jimmied into one of the coolant lines with hose clamps. So, it is at least possible that the hoses are ballooning because the coolant flow is obstructed either by crud deposits or by misadventures of improvised repair. If this were the case, I would look to the white smoke as being non-combusted fuel or possibly oil burning on start-up, unrelated to the coolant issue. Diesels often generate white smoke on start-up due to non-combusted fuel. Diesels, particularly those run on dino-diesel, are also prone to building up carbon deposits which can in turn cause low compression and even oil-burning due to loss of ring seal. Either of these could be your problem with the white smoke. If the problem is carbon build-up, it can often be addressed by running a can or two of diesel-purge directly through the injectors (not added to the gas tank) and driving the beast pedal-to-the-metal for a few thousand miles. See here- http://www.peemac.sdnpk.org/resource/fert/tips5.html and here http://www.intellidog.com/dieselmann/idi2.htm For info on diesels indicating that white smoke on start-up is most often caused by non-combusted fuel, low compression, etc. Not trying to be a know-it-all or tell you what to do, you are after all much more experienced with auto repair than am I. I have learned though, the hard way, that the road to simplicity and bliss in such matters lies in eliminating the easy stuff first. So maybe a prudent first step would be to restore the coolant system to its proper state, replacing the thermostat housing, checking the thermostat, flushing the system, checking how the lines are routed and replacing them as appropriate. You would need to do this at some point anyway. If this takes care of the coolant issue, then you will have saved yourself many hours of unnecessary aggravation. Regards, Lee ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Peugeot 1981 505 S TD Mechanical info please
Don't know if the whole list would, but I would. I'm not a Peugeot fan (I'd only seen them in Africa, so I didn't know they existed in the US till you found one), but I'm a fan of any old diesels -- because they can be run on biodiesel, of course. Zeke >Apparently I stirred up some interest with my posts to this group and >the Peugeot-L group. Are there any Peugeot fans here who would like to >see all of the great information in this afternoon? I am now one step >closer to being a biodiesel man. And to think Keith called me >scatterbrained. >Sincerely, Brian Rodgers ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Peugeot 1981 505 S TD Mechanical info please
Yep that's always a good plan too. Brian On 10/20/05, Zeke Yewdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Another trick that I like (because I take a few months between taking > something apart and putting it back together sometimes) is to lightly > thread all the bolts for something back into the holes they came from > right after I remove it. I can usually remember where the big pieces > go, but it's harder to remember which particular bolt was holding it > on. Or make sure you keep bolts with it, and label them well. > > On 10/20/05, Doug Foskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > & a white marker pen! (mark the hoses etc with dots or a character if there > > is > > room) > > The other trick is to put the small parts in paper bags, that are marked > > with > > location. (This works well for things like injector pumps, or gearboxes that > > have shims, etc.) > > regards Doug. > > > > On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:55, Zeke Yewdall wrote: > > > Not quite a direct answer to your questions, but one thing I've found > > > very helpful when taking apart engines that I lack manuals for (or > > > even ones that I have generic manuals for), is to take LOTS of digital > > > pictures before ripping into it. Then you can refer to them when you > > > are wondering exactly which vacuum hose goes where when reassembling > > > it. > > > > > > Zeke > > > > > > On 10/20/05, Brian Rodgers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I am new to Peugeot and diesel engines. I have no books for this fine > > > > looking car. I was a pro VW mechanic during the 70s and early 80s. Now > > > > I am a pro electronics tech. I prefer to read about a job before I do > > > > the wrenching. I have a decent garage in which I am able to weld with > > > > gas and electric and of course I am very handy with the electronics. I > > > > am often asked for advice on various home auto repair projects to > > > > which my first suggestion is to get the book and if possible get the > > > > official service manuals and read them. I am not a magician, merely a > > > > mechanic and lately I work only on our fleet of ranch vehicles. > > > > > > > > This said, I am about to pull the head off of my Peugeot not knowing > > > > where hoses and wires will return to nor what they do, then attempt to > > > > buy a head gasket from I don't know where. Not my ideal way of > > > > working, and certainly goes against everything I have preached all > > > > these years. > > > > > > > > I have rarely worked on a diesel engine and never a turbo diesel. I > > > > need to understand how the Peugeot turbo works and if it is working. I > > > > would like to test it while the head is off as this seems like as good > > > > a time as any since it is under the manifolds. I joined the Yahoo > > > > Peugeot-L group but they don't seem to know where to get information > > > > either as I have posted numerous requests for service manuals and > > > > parts ordering contacts. I don't mean to sound ungrateful the Peugeot > > > > group gave me the name of one guy in Vermont who seems to have access > > > > to a microfiche. Remember those? I even own a reader which if I dug > > > > around in the barn I might even be able to lay hand to. Still, he has > > > > the info not me. As far as I am concerned it is like saying," I have a > > > > gun, not here but I have one." > > > > > > > > Questions I have put forward to date are: White exhaust smoke and > > > > expanding coolant hoses are invariably signs of a blown head gasket, > > > > where do I buy parts? Where do I look up information online? Does > > > > Peugeot really not have a decent web presence? Sorry if I am > > > > forgetting those who wrote back and given advice and those who told me > > > > of Mr.Brian Holm, I have written to him. I should call and may do so > > > > from work tomorrow. I feel exposed not having anything going for me. > > > > > > > > Anxious in New Mexico > > > > Brian Rodgers > > > > www.outfitnm.com > > > > The Outfit > > > > 801 Douglas Ave. #1 > > > > Las Vegas New Mexico 87701 > > > > 505-454-9661 > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > Biofuel mailing list > > > > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > > > > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > > > > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > > > > messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > > > > ___ > > > Biofuel mailing list > > > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > > > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > > > messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > > __
Re: [Biofuel] Peugeot 1981 505 S TD Mechanical info please
Apparently I stirred up some interest with my posts to this group and the Peugeot-L group. Are there any Peugeot fans here who would like to see all of the great information in this afternoon? I am now one step closer to being a biodiesel man. And to think Keith called me scatterbrained. Sincerely, Brian Rodgers ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Peugeot 1981 505 S TD Mechanical info please
Another trick that I like (because I take a few months between taking something apart and putting it back together sometimes) is to lightly thread all the bolts for something back into the holes they came from right after I remove it. I can usually remember where the big pieces go, but it's harder to remember which particular bolt was holding it on. Or make sure you keep bolts with it, and label them well. On 10/20/05, Doug Foskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > & a white marker pen! (mark the hoses etc with dots or a character if there is > room) > The other trick is to put the small parts in paper bags, that are marked with > location. (This works well for things like injector pumps, or gearboxes that > have shims, etc.) > regards Doug. > > On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:55, Zeke Yewdall wrote: > > Not quite a direct answer to your questions, but one thing I've found > > very helpful when taking apart engines that I lack manuals for (or > > even ones that I have generic manuals for), is to take LOTS of digital > > pictures before ripping into it. Then you can refer to them when you > > are wondering exactly which vacuum hose goes where when reassembling > > it. > > > > Zeke > > > > On 10/20/05, Brian Rodgers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I am new to Peugeot and diesel engines. I have no books for this fine > > > looking car. I was a pro VW mechanic during the 70s and early 80s. Now > > > I am a pro electronics tech. I prefer to read about a job before I do > > > the wrenching. I have a decent garage in which I am able to weld with > > > gas and electric and of course I am very handy with the electronics. I > > > am often asked for advice on various home auto repair projects to > > > which my first suggestion is to get the book and if possible get the > > > official service manuals and read them. I am not a magician, merely a > > > mechanic and lately I work only on our fleet of ranch vehicles. > > > > > > This said, I am about to pull the head off of my Peugeot not knowing > > > where hoses and wires will return to nor what they do, then attempt to > > > buy a head gasket from I don't know where. Not my ideal way of > > > working, and certainly goes against everything I have preached all > > > these years. > > > > > > I have rarely worked on a diesel engine and never a turbo diesel. I > > > need to understand how the Peugeot turbo works and if it is working. I > > > would like to test it while the head is off as this seems like as good > > > a time as any since it is under the manifolds. I joined the Yahoo > > > Peugeot-L group but they don't seem to know where to get information > > > either as I have posted numerous requests for service manuals and > > > parts ordering contacts. I don't mean to sound ungrateful the Peugeot > > > group gave me the name of one guy in Vermont who seems to have access > > > to a microfiche. Remember those? I even own a reader which if I dug > > > around in the barn I might even be able to lay hand to. Still, he has > > > the info not me. As far as I am concerned it is like saying," I have a > > > gun, not here but I have one." > > > > > > Questions I have put forward to date are: White exhaust smoke and > > > expanding coolant hoses are invariably signs of a blown head gasket, > > > where do I buy parts? Where do I look up information online? Does > > > Peugeot really not have a decent web presence? Sorry if I am > > > forgetting those who wrote back and given advice and those who told me > > > of Mr.Brian Holm, I have written to him. I should call and may do so > > > from work tomorrow. I feel exposed not having anything going for me. > > > > > > Anxious in New Mexico > > > Brian Rodgers > > > www.outfitnm.com > > > The Outfit > > > 801 Douglas Ave. #1 > > > Las Vegas New Mexico 87701 > > > 505-454-9661 > > > > > > ___ > > > Biofuel mailing list > > > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > > > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > > > messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > > ___ > > Biofuel mailing list > > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > > messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list
Re: [Biofuel] Peugeot 1981 505 S TD Mechanical info please
& a white marker pen! (mark the hoses etc with dots or a character if there is room) The other trick is to put the small parts in paper bags, that are marked with location. (This works well for things like injector pumps, or gearboxes that have shims, etc.) regards Doug. On Thursday 20 October 2005 10:55, Zeke Yewdall wrote: > Not quite a direct answer to your questions, but one thing I've found > very helpful when taking apart engines that I lack manuals for (or > even ones that I have generic manuals for), is to take LOTS of digital > pictures before ripping into it. Then you can refer to them when you > are wondering exactly which vacuum hose goes where when reassembling > it. > > Zeke > > On 10/20/05, Brian Rodgers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am new to Peugeot and diesel engines. I have no books for this fine > > looking car. I was a pro VW mechanic during the 70s and early 80s. Now > > I am a pro electronics tech. I prefer to read about a job before I do > > the wrenching. I have a decent garage in which I am able to weld with > > gas and electric and of course I am very handy with the electronics. I > > am often asked for advice on various home auto repair projects to > > which my first suggestion is to get the book and if possible get the > > official service manuals and read them. I am not a magician, merely a > > mechanic and lately I work only on our fleet of ranch vehicles. > > > > This said, I am about to pull the head off of my Peugeot not knowing > > where hoses and wires will return to nor what they do, then attempt to > > buy a head gasket from I don't know where. Not my ideal way of > > working, and certainly goes against everything I have preached all > > these years. > > > > I have rarely worked on a diesel engine and never a turbo diesel. I > > need to understand how the Peugeot turbo works and if it is working. I > > would like to test it while the head is off as this seems like as good > > a time as any since it is under the manifolds. I joined the Yahoo > > Peugeot-L group but they don't seem to know where to get information > > either as I have posted numerous requests for service manuals and > > parts ordering contacts. I don't mean to sound ungrateful the Peugeot > > group gave me the name of one guy in Vermont who seems to have access > > to a microfiche. Remember those? I even own a reader which if I dug > > around in the barn I might even be able to lay hand to. Still, he has > > the info not me. As far as I am concerned it is like saying," I have a > > gun, not here but I have one." > > > > Questions I have put forward to date are: White exhaust smoke and > > expanding coolant hoses are invariably signs of a blown head gasket, > > where do I buy parts? Where do I look up information online? Does > > Peugeot really not have a decent web presence? Sorry if I am > > forgetting those who wrote back and given advice and those who told me > > of Mr.Brian Holm, I have written to him. I should call and may do so > > from work tomorrow. I feel exposed not having anything going for me. > > > > Anxious in New Mexico > > Brian Rodgers > > www.outfitnm.com > > The Outfit > > 801 Douglas Ave. #1 > > Las Vegas New Mexico 87701 > > 505-454-9661 > > > > ___ > > Biofuel mailing list > > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > > messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Peugeot 1981 505 S TD Mechanical info please
Zeke you are a wise man. Thank you for sharing. I will take this advise. Mucho gusto Brian Rodgers ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Peugeot 1981 505 S TD Mechanical info please
I know this looks like I am replying to my own post but this a reply from my newletter this morning. I found these links to be very helpful. I thought I would pass this along to others with diesel issues. Brian Rodgers Hi, Brian- I am not much of a mechanic. That disclaimer being issued, let me say this- White exhaust smoke can be and often is a symptom of a blown head gasket. White smoke can also be symptomatic of oil burning. White smoke from a blown head gasket is actually steam produced from coolant entering the combustion chamber(s). When you fired the Peugot up the first time, I put my hand in the white exhaust stream. It did not feel particularly humid, which it would if the white were due to billows of steam being produced. As I recall, the pungent stink of burning anti-freeze, which would be present if coolant was exiting the exhaust, was also missing. Moreover, in my limited experience, the white smoke from a blown head gasket does not go away when the engine warms up. Are there alternate hypotheses which would account for ballooning coolant hoses and white smoke on start-up? I can think of at least one, and I am no diesel guru. From what I recall of your coolant system, there was some conspicuously bass-ackwards backyard mechanicking done. E.G, The thermostat housing was entirely absent and the thermostat was jimmied into one of the coolant lines with hose clamps. So, it is at least possible that the hoses are ballooning because the coolant flow is obstructed either by crud deposits or by misadventures of improvised repair. If this were the case, I would look to the white smoke as being non-combusted fuel or possibly oil burning on start-up, unrelated to the coolant issue. Diesels often generate white smoke on start-up due to non-combusted fuel. Diesels, particularly those run on dino-diesel, are also prone to building up carbon deposits which can in turn cause low compression and even oil-burning due to loss of ring seal. Either of these could be your problem with the white smoke. If the problem is carbon build-up, it can often be addressed by running a can or two of diesel-purge directly through the injectors (not added to the gas tank) and driving the beast pedal-to-the-metal for a few thousand miles. See here- http://www.peemac.sdnpk.org/resource/fert/tips5.html and here http://www.intellidog.com/dieselmann/idi2.htm For info on diesels indicating that white smoke on start-up is most often caused by non-combusted fuel, low compression, etc. Not trying to be a know-it-all or tell you what to do, you are after all much more experienced with auto repair than am I. I have learned though, the hard way, that the road to simplicity and bliss in such matters lies in eliminating the easy stuff first. So maybe a prudent first step would be to restore the coolant system to its proper state, replacing the thermostat housing, checking the thermostat, flushing the system, checking how the lines are routed and replacing them as appropriate. You would need to do this at some point anyway. If this takes care of the coolant issue, then you will have saved yourself many hours of unnecessary aggravation. Regards, Lee ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Peugeot 1981 505 S TD Mechanical info please
Not quite a direct answer to your questions, but one thing I've found very helpful when taking apart engines that I lack manuals for (or even ones that I have generic manuals for), is to take LOTS of digital pictures before ripping into it. Then you can refer to them when you are wondering exactly which vacuum hose goes where when reassembling it. Zeke On 10/20/05, Brian Rodgers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am new to Peugeot and diesel engines. I have no books for this fine > looking car. I was a pro VW mechanic during the 70s and early 80s. Now > I am a pro electronics tech. I prefer to read about a job before I do > the wrenching. I have a decent garage in which I am able to weld with > gas and electric and of course I am very handy with the electronics. I > am often asked for advice on various home auto repair projects to > which my first suggestion is to get the book and if possible get the > official service manuals and read them. I am not a magician, merely a > mechanic and lately I work only on our fleet of ranch vehicles. > > This said, I am about to pull the head off of my Peugeot not knowing > where hoses and wires will return to nor what they do, then attempt to > buy a head gasket from I don't know where. Not my ideal way of > working, and certainly goes against everything I have preached all > these years. > > I have rarely worked on a diesel engine and never a turbo diesel. I > need to understand how the Peugeot turbo works and if it is working. I > would like to test it while the head is off as this seems like as good > a time as any since it is under the manifolds. I joined the Yahoo > Peugeot-L group but they don't seem to know where to get information > either as I have posted numerous requests for service manuals and > parts ordering contacts. I don't mean to sound ungrateful the Peugeot > group gave me the name of one guy in Vermont who seems to have access > to a microfiche. Remember those? I even own a reader which if I dug > around in the barn I might even be able to lay hand to. Still, he has > the info not me. As far as I am concerned it is like saying," I have a > gun, not here but I have one." > > Questions I have put forward to date are: White exhaust smoke and > expanding coolant hoses are invariably signs of a blown head gasket, > where do I buy parts? Where do I look up information online? Does > Peugeot really not have a decent web presence? Sorry if I am > forgetting those who wrote back and given advice and those who told me > of Mr.Brian Holm, I have written to him. I should call and may do so > from work tomorrow. I feel exposed not having anything going for me. > > Anxious in New Mexico > Brian Rodgers > www.outfitnm.com > The Outfit > 801 Douglas Ave. #1 > Las Vegas New Mexico 87701 > 505-454-9661 > > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Peugeot 1981 505 S TD Mechanical info please
I am new to Peugeot and diesel engines. I have no books for this fine looking car. I was a pro VW mechanic during the 70s and early 80s. Now I am a pro electronics tech. I prefer to read about a job before I do the wrenching. I have a decent garage in which I am able to weld with gas and electric and of course I am very handy with the electronics. I am often asked for advice on various home auto repair projects to which my first suggestion is to get the book and if possible get the official service manuals and read them. I am not a magician, merely a mechanic and lately I work only on our fleet of ranch vehicles. This said, I am about to pull the head off of my Peugeot not knowing where hoses and wires will return to nor what they do, then attempt to buy a head gasket from I don't know where. Not my ideal way of working, and certainly goes against everything I have preached all these years. I have rarely worked on a diesel engine and never a turbo diesel. I need to understand how the Peugeot turbo works and if it is working. I would like to test it while the head is off as this seems like as good a time as any since it is under the manifolds. I joined the Yahoo Peugeot-L group but they don't seem to know where to get information either as I have posted numerous requests for service manuals and parts ordering contacts. I don't mean to sound ungrateful the Peugeot group gave me the name of one guy in Vermont who seems to have access to a microfiche. Remember those? I even own a reader which if I dug around in the barn I might even be able to lay hand to. Still, he has the info not me. As far as I am concerned it is like saying," I have a gun, not here but I have one." Questions I have put forward to date are: White exhaust smoke and expanding coolant hoses are invariably signs of a blown head gasket, where do I buy parts? Where do I look up information online? Does Peugeot really not have a decent web presence? Sorry if I am forgetting those who wrote back and given advice and those who told me of Mr.Brian Holm, I have written to him. I should call and may do so from work tomorrow. I feel exposed not having anything going for me. Anxious in New Mexico Brian Rodgers www.outfitnm.com The Outfit 801 Douglas Ave. #1 Las Vegas New Mexico 87701 505-454-9661 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
