[biofuel] Hybrid Diesel Motorcycle

2002-06-15 Thread Appal Energy

http://www.ecycle.com/powersports/hybrid.htm


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Re: [biofuel] Hybrid Diesel Motorcycle

2002-06-15 Thread Keith Addison

>http://www.ecycle.com/powersports/hybrid.htm

We've had that thing reffed from our website for more than a year, 
and nothing seems to happen with it, still just the same, same old 
pictures, still not in production. "eCycle plans to introduce the 
hybrid motorcycle to beta testers in 2002." Tell you a secret - it's 
been 2002 for awhile now. Is it just one of these schemes where it's 
all just around the corner, just needs another few million or so?

Lotsa diesel bikes here, by the way:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_bikes.html

The new military Kawasaki for NATO and the US is the most interesting one, IMO.

Best

Keith


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RE: [biofuel] Hybrid Diesel Motorcycle

2002-06-16 Thread Sean Cook

Gee I just want to buy one.,.,.,.,
so much for U.S. production.


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From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 10:46 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Hybrid Diesel Motorcycle


>http://www.ecycle.com/powersports/hybrid.htm

We've had that thing reffed from our website for more than a year,
and nothing seems to happen with it, still just the same, same old
pictures, still not in production. "eCycle plans to introduce the
hybrid motorcycle to beta testers in 2002." Tell you a secret - it's
been 2002 for awhile now. Is it just one of these schemes where it's
all just around the corner, just needs another few million or so?

Lotsa diesel bikes here, by the way:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_bikes.html

The new military Kawasaki for NATO and the US is the most interesting one,
IMO.

Best

Keith



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RE: [biofuel] Hybrid Diesel Motorcycle

2002-06-17 Thread Mccall Tom WP US

I just purchased a gasoline powered 2 cycle engine
weedeater.

I can remember some discussions concerning the use
of Bio diesel instead of Dino oil to provide lubrication
for the 2 cycle engine.   

How much Bio diesel do you add?

I know that the ratio for Dino Oil is 32 parts gasoline
and 1 part Dino oil (4 oz oil per gallon of gas).

Also did someone use Ethanol and Bio diesel to run a 
2 cylce engine on a bike?

T

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Subject: RE: [biofuel] Hybrid Diesel Motorcycle


Gee I just want to buy one.,.,.,.,
so much for U.S. production.


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From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 10:46 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Hybrid Diesel Motorcycle


>http://www.ecycle.com/powersports/hybrid.htm

We've had that thing reffed from our website for more than a year,
and nothing seems to happen with it, still just the same, same old
pictures, still not in production. "eCycle plans to introduce the
hybrid motorcycle to beta testers in 2002." Tell you a secret - it's
been 2002 for awhile now. Is it just one of these schemes where it's
all just around the corner, just needs another few million or so?

Lotsa diesel bikes here, by the way:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_bikes.html

The new military Kawasaki for NATO and the US is the most interesting one,
IMO.

Best

Keith



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RE: [biofuel] Hybrid Diesel Motorcycle

2002-06-17 Thread Keith Addison

>I just purchased a gasoline powered 2 cycle engine
>weedeater.
>
>I can remember some discussions concerning the use
>of Bio diesel instead of Dino oil to provide lubrication
>for the 2 cycle engine.
>
>How much Bio diesel do you add?
>
>I know that the ratio for Dino Oil is 32 parts gasoline
>and 1 part Dino oil (4 oz oil per gallon of gas).
>
>Also did someone use Ethanol and Bio diesel to run a
>2 cylce engine on a bike?
>
>T

Hello Tom

There's been sporadic discussion on biod as 2-cycle oil, but we've 
never had really definitive results - some non-definitive results 
below. If you try it, please let us know how you fare.

I believe the ethanol was used as a blend rather than a straight fuel 
- 10% ethanol with a 20:1 overall biod mix for the lube? Something 
like that.

Regards

Keith


Martin R. used biodiesel as two-stroke oil in his chain saw, at a mix 
of 20 to 1 with gasoline. "It works fine," he says. "After using the 
saw for 2.5 hours in one go on dead Australian hardwood with no 
hiccups I was very impressed to say the least."


> > In all my 2 Stroke engines , I use 20:1 Mix , better to blow some smoke
> > then one at all . no smoke make's your saw run leaner and hotter and
> > run the risk sizing your saw greater more oil will make your 2 stroke
> engine
> > last longer for spark plugs are cheaper then an engine rebuild and the
> > saw I use is a Dolmar chain saw
> > so I will use BD from now on  at 20:1 Mix


  Well, you'd think that at 20:1, just about anything would work,
considering that most 2-strokes nowadays use 50:1 and even 100:1 mixes.
I'd be hesitant, however, to use it in my expensive Stihl chainsaw, but
if someone had an older 2-stroke lawnmower that they didn't care about,
it would be interesting to try a 100:1 mix of straight BD and gas and
just let it run continuously for 5 gallons worth or so.


   Old two-stroke engines like yours usually have bronze wrist pin bearings
and thus require a richer oil mixture to adequately lube that bushing.
Incidentally in a two stroke you will often find the wrist pin bearing fails
first from poor lubrication (It is just much harder to get the oil into it!)
  I would recommend at least to stick with the 20-1 or even 15-1 seeing as
biodiesel is a "thinner" oil than normal two-stroke oil. I have no idea what
effect bio-diesel would have on the octane of gasoline but it probably isn't
so important on old engines because they usually have a very low c/r anyway


My favourite
2-stroke oil is Yamalube R racing oil at 40-1 mix and it, from the bottle is
almost as thin as biodiesel! It could be biodiesel is the lube we've been
looking for all these years.


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RE: [biofuel] Hybrid Diesel Motorcycle

2002-10-07 Thread Hall, Edward C.

Has anyone heard anything more about the diesel 650 enduro that Kawasaki was
developing for the military? I'm mostly interested in whether it'll be
offered to the public?

Ed
-


Lotsa diesel bikes here, by the way:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_bikes.html

The new military Kawasaki for NATO and the US is the most interesting one,
IMO.

Best

Keith

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Re: [biofuel] Hybrid Diesel Motorcycle

2002-10-07 Thread biofueledenergy

I stay in touch with the manufacturer and yes there are plans to offer a 
model to the public. I will email the list and yourself with an update soon.

In a message dated 10/7/2002 12:49:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
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> 
> Has anyone heard anything more about the diesel 650 enduro that Kawasaki 
> was
> developing for the military? I'm mostly interested in whether it'll be
> offered to the public?
> 
> Ed
> 



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Re: [biofuel] Hybrid Diesel Motorcycle

2002-10-07 Thread Keith Addison

biofueledenergy wrote:

>I stay in touch with the manufacturer and yes there are plans to offer a
>model to the public. I will email the list and yourself with an update soon.

Good news! Please do keep us informed.

Best wishes

Keith


>In a message dated 10/7/2002 12:49:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
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>
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> > Has anyone heard anything more about the diesel 650 enduro that Kawasaki
> > was
> > developing for the military? I'm mostly interested in whether it'll be
> > offered to the public?
> >
> > Ed


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Re: [biofuel] Hybrid Diesel Motorcycle

2002-10-08 Thread Steve Spence

I did finally get to see a British Enfield diesel motorbike. Also the
Polaris diesel 4x4 and a Kawasaki diesel mule.


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> biofueledenergy wrote:
>
> >I stay in touch with the manufacturer and yes there are plans to offer a
> >model to the public. I will email the list and yourself with an update
soon.
>
> Good news! Please do keep us informed.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Keith
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> >In a message dated 10/7/2002 12:49:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
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> > > Has anyone heard anything more about the diesel 650 enduro that
Kawasaki
> > > was
> > > developing for the military? I'm mostly interested in whether it'll be
> > > offered to the public?
> > >
> > > Ed
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