[biofuel] Perhaps many .. but not all Was: SUV question - Silk Purses out of Sows Ears
Would everyone PLEASE stop making these sweeping generalizations!! PLEASE?? I talk about SUV's ... and everyone tells me to shut up about it. So I do. Now another silly ALL SUV OWNERS ARE AFTER THE POWER ... ALL SUV OWNERS ARE AFTER THE PRESTIGE ALL SUV OWNERS . ... Comes out of the woodworks. Sheesh!! REMEMBER (Ok??) that when you say ALL SUV owners ... you talk about ME. If only indirectly hm?? Most of the vehicles I've purchase since about 1985 or so have either been 4X4 trucks and you guessed it(!!) the much-talked-about SUV. Yet I don't choose these vehicles because of some ego factor ... I choose these vehicles because of the way their mechanically constructed ... it agrees quietly with the way I like a vehicle built. 4X4 trucks and SUV's are a few of the only vehicles constructed that way. THATS why I choose these vehicles NOT because it enhances some middle-finger-snotty-nose-f***-you-attitude. And no ... I don't swerve in-and-out with it ... I don't talk on a snotty cell phone while driving it .. I don't flip off other drivers ... I don't spin around turns with Kids in it I driver courteously I signal while making turns AND LASTLY ... I plan my trips .. to minimize my usage of fuel. So please ... STOP making these we KNOW why SUV drivers buy and drive these SUV's statements. It ticks me off hearing about it. Especially since all (SUV drivers) ... all includes me. Thank you. Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: Neoteric Biofuels Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] YOU NEED AN SUV! Sometime, for fun, (YOU NEED AN SUV!!) add up the number (YOU CAN GO ANYWHERE AND BE FREE!!) of SUV/Pickup commercials (YOU WILL BE HAPPIER!) and sporty fast 200 hp sedan (YOU WILL BE NOTICED!) commercials you view (THE OPPOSITE SEX SEX SEX WILL LIKE YOU BETTER!) in a week of TV watching (YOU WILL FEEL INVINCIBLE!!) and you will (YOU NEED A TRUCK!!) know why there was a (YOU NEED A TRUCK) shift to minivans (YOU WILL FEEL POWERFUL JUST BY BUYING MORE FUEL!!!) and then to trucks and SUV's!! Repeat after me...repetition (SEX) in advertising works. Repeat after me...repetition in (POWER) advertising works. Repeat after me...repetition in (LOVE) advertising works. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- New Yahoo! Mail Plus. More flexibility. More control. More power. Get POP access, more storage, more filters, and more. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Hcb0iA/P.iFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Perhaps many .. but not all Was: SUV question - Silk Purses out of Sows Ears
Me thinks something got under his skin :-) - Original Message - From: csakima [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 5:58 PM Subject: [biofuel] Perhaps many .. but not all Was: SUV question - Silk Purses out of Sows Ears Would everyone PLEASE stop making these sweeping generalizations!! PLEASE?? I talk about SUV's ... and everyone tells me to shut up about it. So I do. Now another silly ALL SUV OWNERS ARE AFTER THE POWER ... ALL SUV OWNERS ARE AFTER THE PRESTIGE ALL SUV OWNERS . ... Comes out of the woodworks. Sheesh!! REMEMBER (Ok??) that when you say ALL SUV owners ... you talk about ME. If only indirectly hm?? Most of the vehicles I've purchase since about 1985 or so have either been 4X4 trucks and you guessed it(!!) the much-talked-about SUV. Yet I don't choose these vehicles because of some ego factor ... I choose these vehicles because of the way their mechanically constructed ... it agrees quietly with the way I like a vehicle built. 4X4 trucks and SUV's are a few of the only vehicles constructed that way. THATS why I choose these vehicles NOT because it enhances some middle-finger-snotty-nose-f***-you-attitude. And no ... I don't swerve in-and-out with it ... I don't talk on a snotty cell phone while driving it .. I don't flip off other drivers ... I don't spin around turns with Kids in it I driver courteously I signal while making turns AND LASTLY ... I plan my trips .. to minimize my usage of fuel. So please ... STOP making these we KNOW why SUV drivers buy and drive these SUV's statements. It ticks me off hearing about it. Especially since all (SUV drivers) ... all includes me. Thank you. Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: Neoteric Biofuels Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] YOU NEED AN SUV! Sometime, for fun, (YOU NEED AN SUV!!) add up the number (YOU CAN GO ANYWHERE AND BE FREE!!) of SUV/Pickup commercials (YOU WILL BE HAPPIER!) and sporty fast 200 hp sedan (YOU WILL BE NOTICED!) commercials you view (THE OPPOSITE SEX SEX SEX WILL LIKE YOU BETTER!) in a week of TV watching (YOU WILL FEEL INVINCIBLE!!) and you will (YOU NEED A TRUCK!!) know why there was a (YOU NEED A TRUCK) shift to minivans (YOU WILL FEEL POWERFUL JUST BY BUYING MORE FUEL!!!) and then to trucks and SUV's!! Repeat after me...repetition (SEX) in advertising works. Repeat after me...repetition in (POWER) advertising works. Repeat after me...repetition in (LOVE) advertising works. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- New Yahoo! Mail Plus. More flexibility. More control. More power. Get POP access, more storage, more filters, and more. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Hcb0iA/P.iFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Perhaps many .. but not all Was: SUV question - Silk Purses out of Sows Ears
Yes, I have a huge difficulty with sweeping statements that say ALL (people of my nationality) .. or ALL (people of my religion) ... or ALL (people who were born where I was born). Especially when I *do NOT* act (or look like .. or have an attitude) like all those people are suppose to have. Just irks me. And pisses me when laws/rules/policies are made in response to those people being like that. Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Me thinks something got under his skin :-) - Original Message - From: csakima [EMAIL PROTECTED] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Perhaps many .. but not all Was: SUV question - Silk Purses out of Sows Ears
My post was about advertising and what it really appeals to, and how that affects our lifestyles and purchases. Not only is advertising capable of shaping purchase and lifestyle decisions, but there are limits to individual freedom in any society when it comes to safety and shared resources. Since roads, air, steel, oil, water and hospital beds are shared resources, those who are concerned about resource use and rational transportation choices have every right to question the validity of the SUV as it has been promoted, not as a box of steel on a frame that is actually needed by some people. We have always had trucks. We have not always had trucks in the numbers that they are being used today - a very large proportion of the automotive fleet. Was there some big demographic shift that caused this? No. More people live in cities, fewer have kids, there is more asphalt...so why more trucks? If you wanted to ride a higher horse and wear a bigger hat, nobody cared, but we're sort of past that era, you know? That goes contrary to what is supposed to be great about the US (and Canada). The frontier has gone missing and been replaced by suburbs, for millions of our generation, and we have not come to grips with that reality - we want to avoid it and pretend it did not happen while we weren't looking. But it did. So Curtis, defend your lifestyle, your trip planning and your actions. Fine. But you are off in the fringe area of a clearly defined demographic profile, which ALL profiles possess. I am sure that if we try really hard we can find some advertising that does not appeal to the elements noted, as well - but car and truck ads sure do. An auto executive said it best a few years ago, and was completely sincere and candid in his remarks: If you think the auto business is about selling transportation, you are not going to last long at it (to paraphrase a little) Edward Beggs On Friday, February 28, 2003, at 03:46 PM, csakima wrote: Yes, I have a huge difficulty with sweeping statements that say ALL (people of my nationality) .. or ALL (people of my religion) ... or ALL (people who were born where I was born). Especially when I *do NOT* act (or look like .. or have an attitude) like all those people are suppose to have. Just irks me. And pisses me when laws/rules/policies are made in response to those people being like that. Curtis Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- DVD Rentals with No Late Fees - Try Netflix for FREE! http://us.click.yahoo.com/abvVKB/pEZFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
