[biofuel] Re: Ethanol, Alcohol, & Veg Oil
> An immediate solution for myself, right now, here in the U.S., is there an > alternative other than converting my diesel car to run on veggie oil? Yes! Diesel (see Scania in Sweden) and non-diesel engines may be run on ethanol. Unfortunately 100% ethanol is not a legal motor fuel because it could be drunk. It's moonshine. The US ATF makes us "denature" or poision ethanol with any number of things (usually gasoline). It is my hopes that they will allow us to use biodieisel or some other denaturant that has a lubricating quality. Would say 5% biodiesel work as a denaurant/lubricant? We are waiting to hear back. Dave Shaw Alcohol Can Be A Gas! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: Ethanol, Alcohol, & Veg Oil
> > An immediate solution for myself, right now, here in the U.S., is >there an > > alternative other than converting my diesel car to run on veggie oil? > >Yes! Diesel (see Scania in Sweden) and non-diesel engines may be run >on ethanol. Yes... but trials with diesels and ethanol in California did not go well. I have refs somewhere, I'll dig them up before tomorrow. A much more ready answer is to use biodiesel, which requires no engine conversion and is suitable for any diesel, with millions of road miles behind it. >Unfortunately 100% ethanol is not a legal motor fuel >because it could be drunk. It's moonshine. The US ATF makes us >"denature" or poision ethanol with any number of things (usually >gasoline). It is my hopes that they will allow us to use biodieisel >or some other denaturant that has a lubricating quality. Biodiesel's not poisonous, I think the denaturant has to be poisonous. Biodiesel plus methanol maybe? You can get permits for fuel ethanol production from the ATF, we're told it's not that difficult. Best Keith >Would say 5% >biodiesel work as a denaurant/lubricant? We are waiting to hear back. > >Dave Shaw >Alcohol Can Be A Gas! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: Ethanol, Alcohol, & Veg Oil
> How can a diesel engine run on ethanol ? When the book comes out it will be much more eloquent, but for now all I can say is that the diesel engine run on 90%+ ethanol by modifying the injection pump, injection nozzles, pistons, gaskets, and other standard modifications (like compression and filters) when going from petrol to an alternative. We will be addressing this issue in our book Alcohol Can Be a Gas!. It goes to publishing in March. Dave Shaw Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Ethanol, Alcohol, & Veg Oil
Hello Keith and everyone, Has anyone here received a permit from the BATF for fuel production of ethanol, and what are the circumstances (residential? farm? commercial?) > Biodiesel's not poisonous, I think the denaturant has to be > poisonous. Biodiesel plus methanol maybe? You can get permits for > fuel ethanol production from the ATF, we're told it's not that > difficult. > > Best > > Keith > > -Martin Klingensmith Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Ethanol, Alcohol, & Veg Oil
Hi all, How can a diesel engine run on ethanol ? Met vriendelijke groeten, Pieter Koole Netherlands The information contained in this message (including attachments) is confidential, and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error please delete it and notify the originator immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. We will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or in case of electronic communications as a result of any virus being passed on. - Original Message - From: "shawstafari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 5:49 PM Subject: [biofuel] Re: Ethanol, Alcohol, & Veg Oil > > An immediate solution for myself, right now, here in the U.S., is > there an > > alternative other than converting my diesel car to run on veggie oil? > > Yes! Diesel (see Scania in Sweden) and non-diesel engines may be run > on ethanol. Unfortunately 100% ethanol is not a legal motor fuel > because it could be drunk. It's moonshine. The US ATF makes us > "denature" or poision ethanol with any number of things (usually > gasoline). It is my hopes that they will allow us to use biodieisel > or some other denaturant that has a lubricating quality. Would say 5% > biodiesel work as a denaurant/lubricant? We are waiting to hear back. > > Dave Shaw > Alcohol Can Be A Gas! > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Ethanol, Alcohol, & Veg Oil
I was reviewing my info on gopherweed recently and it seems that a distillant of it would be a perfect denaturant, or even bio-meth from a smallish scale methane source. Al Rutan would come in handy here (or someone of that ilk). James Slayden On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Keith Addison wrote: > Biodiesel's not poisonous, I think the denaturant has to be > poisonous. Biodiesel plus methanol maybe? You can get permits for > fuel ethanol production from the ATF, we're told it's not that > difficult. > > Best > > Keith > > > > >Would say 5% > >biodiesel work as a denaurant/lubricant? We are waiting to hear back. > > > >Dave Shaw > >Alcohol Can Be A Gas! > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Ethanol, Alcohol, & Veg Oil
ld >cater for another 30 ethanol buses. > >The Future > >There is very little accurate knowledge regarding the use of ethanol. > >Some organisations and countries are using ethanol, however are just >tinkering around the edges by adding 15% ethanol to diesel (known as >dieselhol), or adding ethanol to petrol, proving an insignificant >reduction in CO2s. > >Only Stockholm, Sweden and a small trial in Mexico City have >embarked on a similar project. > >Ventura introduced a third ethanol bus into it's fleet on Monday the >10th of December 2001. Given the positive outcomes to date, Ventura >is excited about the future of this tangible and well-publicised >alternative to the destructive motor car. http://www.venturabus.com.au/ven_environment.html Best Keith >Met vriendelijke groeten, >Pieter Koole >Netherlands > > >- Original Message - >From: "shawstafari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 5:49 PM >Subject: [biofuel] Re: Ethanol, Alcohol, & Veg Oil > > > > > An immediate solution for myself, right now, here in the U.S., is > > there an > > > alternative other than converting my diesel car to run on veggie oil? > > > > Yes! Diesel (see Scania in Sweden) and non-diesel engines may be run > > on ethanol. Unfortunately 100% ethanol is not a legal motor fuel > > because it could be drunk. It's moonshine. The US ATF makes us > > "denature" or poision ethanol with any number of things (usually > > gasoline). It is my hopes that they will allow us to use biodieisel > > or some other denaturant that has a lubricating quality. Would say 5% > > biodiesel work as a denaurant/lubricant? We are waiting to hear back. > > > > Dave Shaw > > Alcohol Can Be A Gas! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Ethanol, Alcohol, & Veg Oil
nce of the Ethanol Buses > > > >Our customers are aware of the alternative fuel through signage on >the buses, promotional literature and our web site editorial. We >receive at least one telephone / email or letter each day supporting >our recognition of the limited supply of fossil fuels and decreasing >harmful greenhouse gases. > > > >Our bus drivers are keen to drive these buses. The responsiveness >is the same as our newest Euro III buses and the engine is >marginally quieter. > > > >The morning bus start up crew have reported a huge advantage of >starting the ethanol buses compared to the fumes from diesel engines. > > > >Given that the engine is so similar to the diesel engine, our >maintenance staff are also happy with the vehicles. > > > >The Outlays > > > >With a lower energy rating than diesel, the consumption of ethanol >is much greater. We are attempting to get the Federal Government to >recognise the benefits of ethanol and to treat it as an equal to LPG >and CNG. > > > >Ventura has installed a customised fuelling station for the more >flammable and corrosive ethanol storage and pumping, which could >cater for another 30 ethanol buses. > > > >The Future > > > >There is very little accurate knowledge regarding the use of ethanol. > > > >Some organisations and countries are using ethanol, however are >just tinkering around the edges by adding 15% ethanol to diesel >(known as dieselhol), or adding ethanol to petrol, proving an >insignificant reduction in CO2s. > > > >Only Stockholm, Sweden and a small trial in Mexico City have >embarked on a similar project. > > > >Ventura introduced a third ethanol bus into it's fleet on Monday >the 10th of December 2001. Given the positive outcomes to date, >Ventura is excited about the future of this tangible and >well-publicised alternative to the destructive motor car. > >http://www.venturabus.com.au/ven_environment.html > >Best > >Keith > > >>Met vriendelijke groeten, >>Pieter Koole >>Netherlands >> >> >>- Original Message - >>From: "shawstafari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: >>Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 5:49 PM >>Subject: [biofuel] Re: Ethanol, Alcohol, & Veg Oil >> >> >> > > An immediate solution for myself, right now, here in the U.S., is >> > there an >> > > alternative other than converting my diesel car to run on veggie oil? >> > >> > Yes! Diesel (see Scania in Sweden) and non-diesel engines may be run >> > on ethanol. Unfortunately 100% ethanol is not a legal motor fuel >> > because it could be drunk. It's moonshine. The US ATF makes us >> > "denature" or poision ethanol with any number of things (usually >> > gasoline). It is my hopes that they will allow us to use biodieisel >> > or some other denaturant that has a lubricating quality. Would say 5% >> > biodiesel work as a denaurant/lubricant? We are waiting to hear back. >> > >> > Dave Shaw >> > Alcohol Can Be A Gas! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Ethanol, Alcohol, & Veg Oil
I really do not understand this story when you say "changing from petrol to something else". Are we talking about diesel engines or petrol / gasoline engines ? Met vriendelijke groeten, Pieter Koole Netherlands The information contained in this message (including attachments) is confidential, and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error please delete it and notify the originator immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. We will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or in case of electronic communications as a result of any virus being passed on. - Original Message - From: "shawstafari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 2:01 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re: Ethanol, Alcohol, & Veg Oil > > How can a diesel engine run on ethanol ? > > When the book comes out it will be much more eloquent, but for now all > I can say is that the diesel engine run on 90%+ ethanol by modifying > the injection pump, injection nozzles, pistons, gaskets, and other > standard modifications (like compression and filters) when going from > petrol to an alternative. > > We will be addressing this issue in our book Alcohol Can Be a Gas!. > It goes to publishing in March. > > Dave Shaw > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Ethanol, Alcohol, & Veg Oil
Thanks a lot Keith. I have the advantage to have a small test - diesel engine ( 13 Hp Kubota ). A few years ago, I bought this thing for other purposes, but now I use it for testing, so if there are new developments to try out, I can do it for you and the others, without risking my car engine. Met vriendelijke groeten, Pieter Koole The information contained in this message (including attachments) is confidential, and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error please delete it and notify the originator immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. We will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or in case of electronic communications as a result of any virus being passed on. - Original Message - From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 2:47 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Ethanol, Alcohol, & Veg Oil > Oops, sorry, forgot these two: > > Alcohol in diesel engines -- Have technology, will travel -- policy permitting > "... India too can gradually implement alcohol fuel technology for > automobiles -- first, as a blend in petrol cars, and subsequently as > a sole fuel for both petrol and diesel vehicles." See: > Alcohol-diesel technology: Recent advances > http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/businessline/2001/07/11/stories/04 > 1167mu.htm > > http://www.nf-2000.org/secure/Other/F447.htm > Ethanol as Transport Fuel in Sweden > In 1996, there will be approx. 300 heavy duty buses and trucks on the > Swedish roads running on ethanol. Most of them are inner city buses > using neat ethanol with additive for improved ignition. Some run on a > diesel/ethanol mixture in fleet tests at five locations. Total > consumption of ethanol to the buses will be about 12 000 m3 95 % > ethanol/year. > > Best > > Keith > > > >>Hi all, > >>How can a diesel engine run on ethanol ? > > > >Hi Pieter > > > >"The Manual for the Home and Farm Production of Alcohol Fuel", > >Mathewson, 1980, Chapter 3, DIESEL ENGINES: > >Contrary to the opinion of most "experts", diesel engines can be run > >on pure alcohol. The main problem is in the lubrication of the > >injectors. This is solved by the addition of 5-20% vegetable oil (or > >other suitable lubricant) to the alcohol. It is also possible to > >make a diesel "gasohol" with up to 80% alcohol. Since alcohol and > >oil will not mix when water is present, both the alcohol and the oil > >must be anhydrous. Different engines may also require adjustment of > >the metering pump for optimum performance. Diesel engines, > >especially turbocharged diesels, may also be run with an > >alcohol/water injection system as described later. > >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_manual/manual3.html > > > >Buses running on pure ethanol > >Heavy vehicles with converted diesel engines are being run on pure > >ethanol, with a spark-improving additive. Major environmental > >benefits are less greenhouse gases and a reduction in exhaust fumes. > >There are about 400 ethanol-powered buses in Sweden, 250 of which > >operate in central Stockholm. Successful trials have also been > >conducted using ethanol-powered heavy trucks and refuse disposal > >vehicles. > >http://www.miljobilar.stockholm.se/english/branslen_etanol.asp > > > >"Ethanol-Diesel Blends: A Step Towards A Bio-based Fuel For Diesel > >Engines", Hansen, Lyne, Qin, 2001 - includes some information > >ethanol corrosion, flash points, separation, etc. > >http://www.age.uiuc.edu/oree/e-diesel/Publications/infopub.pdf > > > >"Fuel-Cycle Energy and Emission Impacts of Ethanol-Diesel Blends in > >Urban Buses and Farming Tractors", Wang, Saricks, Lee, 2003 > >http://www.transportation.anl.gov/pdfs/TA/280.pdf > > > >http://www.afdc.doe.gov/altfuel/ediesel_general.html > >AFDC - E-diesel General Information > > > > > > >Ventura Bus Lines > > > > > >On 1 December 2000, Ventura Bus Lines introduced the first two > >totally renewable fuelled buses into Australia. > > > > > >These buses operate from 100% ethanol, made from molasses, a > >by-product of sugar milling by CSR Distilleries. > > > > > >The ethanol is produced in the sugar belt of Queensland, Sarina, > >and shipped to Yarraville for refining, then delivered to our South > >Oakleigh Depot in the same fashion as diesel. > > > > > >
Re: [biofuel] Re: Ethanol, Alcohol, & Veg Oil
>Thanks a lot Keith. You're more than welcome Pieter. >I have the advantage to have a small test - diesel engine ( 13 Hp Kubota ). >A few years ago, I bought this thing for other purposes, but now I use it >for testing, so if there are new developments to try out, I can do it for >you and the others, without risking my car engine. That's good to know, thankyou. Actually I have one too, but I don't know if it works or not. Probably it does, or can be made to without too much trouble. It's also a Kubota, a two-wheeled tractor, at least 30 years old. It's buried under and behind piles of old stuff behind the house beneath an extended eaves, so at least it's kept dry. I've been trying to get round to getting it out of there for more than six months now. No crank-handle, which was discouraging, but then I found a crank-handle. Heavy thing, and of course the tyres are flat. I'll do it soon, there's a job waiting for it. If it turns out to be dead we can probably get another one - there are a few of them around, not being used, probably to be had for the asking. It's probably not too choosy about fuel quality, low-tech old thumper. If I get it running maybe I'll try feeding it on booze, make it drunk. Best wishes Keith >Met vriendelijke groeten, >Pieter Koole > > >The information contained in this message (including attachments) is >confidential, and is intended for the addressee(s) >only. If you have received this message in error please delete it and >notify the originator immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, >copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. We will not be >liable for direct, special, indirect or >consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this >message by a third party or in case of electronic communications as a result >of any virus being passed on. > > >- Original Message ----- >From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 2:47 AM >Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Ethanol, Alcohol, & Veg Oil > > > > Oops, sorry, forgot these two: > > > > Alcohol in diesel engines -- Have technology, will travel -- policy >permitting > > "... India too can gradually implement alcohol fuel technology for > > automobiles -- first, as a blend in petrol cars, and subsequently as > > a sole fuel for both petrol and diesel vehicles." See: > > Alcohol-diesel technology: Recent advances > > http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/businessline/2001/07/11/stories/04 > > 1167mu.htm > > > > http://www.nf-2000.org/secure/Other/F447.htm > > Ethanol as Transport Fuel in Sweden > > In 1996, there will be approx. 300 heavy duty buses and trucks on the > > Swedish roads running on ethanol. Most of them are inner city buses > > using neat ethanol with additive for improved ignition. Some run on a > > diesel/ethanol mixture in fleet tests at five locations. Total > > consumption of ethanol to the buses will be about 12 000 m3 95 % > > ethanol/year. > > > > Best > > > > Keith > > > > > > >>Hi all, > > >>How can a diesel engine run on ethanol ? > > > > > >Hi Pieter > > > > > >"The Manual for the Home and Farm Production of Alcohol Fuel", > > >Mathewson, 1980, Chapter 3, DIESEL ENGINES: > > >Contrary to the opinion of most "experts", diesel engines can be run > > >on pure alcohol. The main problem is in the lubrication of the > > >injectors. This is solved by the addition of 5-20% vegetable oil (or > > >other suitable lubricant) to the alcohol. It is also possible to > > >make a diesel "gasohol" with up to 80% alcohol. Since alcohol and > > >oil will not mix when water is present, both the alcohol and the oil > > >must be anhydrous. Different engines may also require adjustment of > > >the metering pump for optimum performance. Diesel engines, > > >especially turbocharged diesels, may also be run with an > > >alcohol/water injection system as described later. > > >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_manual/manual3.html > > > > > >Buses running on pure ethanol > > >Heavy vehicles with converted diesel engines are being run on pure > > >ethanol, with a spark-improving additive. Major environmental > > >benefits are less greenhouse gases and a reduction in exhaust fumes. > > >There are about 400 ethanol-powered buses in Sweden, 250 of which > > >operate in central Stockholm. Successful trials have also been > > >conducted using ethanol-powered
