[biofuel] Re: John Deere Two Cylinders
Hi, From listening from old timers, I believe one factor that determine the compression ratio of the engine was it's destination. Tractors originally delivered to the lower plains lack power if the tractor ever made out to Colorado, whenever the reverse occurred the tractor became picky about fuel quality due to the higher CR, but if good fuel was available they where a pulling SOB I have been told.-Doug Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 14:44:37 - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: John Deere Two Cylinders John, Put a post yesterday on a list for old John Deere tractors (1930- 1950). I have two Model B's made in 1940 1943. They're the All Fuel models with two tanks(gas other). There are two pistons mounted horizontally that are about 8 to 10 inches in diameter. Reminds me of a steam locomotive when running. Gives a feeling of raw simple horsepower. The consensus of the old timers is that if the tractor has the low compression pistons it will work fine. However many were upgraded when rebuilt and had higher compression pistons installed. The higher compression WILL cause knocking and other things you mentioned. Will let the list know the results. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~ eGroups is now Yahoo! Groups Click here for more details http://click.egroups.com/1/11231/0/_/837408/_/980658106/ -_- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[biofuel] Re: John Deere Two Cylinders
John,
I'll start by saying that I find people named John naturally handsome
and intelligent.
Although I appreciate your response, here's what the boys on the John
Deere list have to say:
Older tractors were designed for All Fuel. Which means they were
started on gas small Tank, and after warmed up they were switched
over to the large Tank which could have gas, kerosene, diesel,
ethanol, or a homemade brew. Gas was expensive in those days so it
was not easily afforded by most farmers to burn all the time. It was
practically impossible to start a cold gas engine on all fuel of your
choice, because of the low octane ignition point, so they would
have a small tank of gas which was higher in octane and easier to
start, then after the tractor was warm it was switched over and then
it could burn the all fuel. All though you always needed to run the
carb dry or switch it back over to gas before shutting it off so you
could start it again next time. Hope this helps. Bill {Antique
Acres}
So I suspect that these things will run on anything that burns and is
liquid. Will just have to try it and see. I'll report the results for
the benefit of the list.
JV
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Re: [biofuel] Re: John Deere Two Cylinders
Be interested to see your results Bill
Had a Model K back in the early 60ies on a saw bench and I was never able
to run it on dinodiesel without a sad loss of power. at least a 30%
reduction from petrol. Kero was slightly less powerful than petrol but
seemed to get more torque. We used to have two grades of kero then -
lighting kero and power kero there was a big power difference between the
two of them also . . The local JD dealers have got the tractor on display
now but sadly it doesn't run so I can't try it out.
Regards
John
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Subject: [biofuel] Re: John Deere Two Cylinders
John,
I'll start by saying that I find people named John naturally handsome
and intelligent.
enough of flattery I'll start to think I've still got a brain :-{))
Although I appreciate your response, here's what the boys on the John
Deere list have to say:
Older tractors were designed for All Fuel. Which means they were
started on gas small Tank, and after warmed up they were switched
over to the large Tank which could have gas, kerosene, diesel,
ethanol, or a homemade brew. Gas was expensive in those days so it
was not easily afforded by most farmers to burn all the time. It was
practically impossible to start a cold gas engine on all fuel of your
choice, because of the low octane ignition point, so they would
have a small tank of gas which was higher in octane and easier to
start, then after the tractor was warm it was switched over and then
it could burn the all fuel. All though you always needed to run the
carb dry or switch it back over to gas before shutting it off so you
could start it again next time. Hope this helps. Bill {Antique
Acres}
So I suspect that these things will run on anything that burns and is
liquid. Will just have to try it and see. I'll report the results for
the benefit of the list.
JV
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[biofuel] Re: John Deere Two Cylinders
John, Put a post yesterday on a list for old John Deere tractors (1930- 1950). I have two Model B's made in 1940 1943. They're the All Fuel models with two tanks(gas other). There are two pistons mounted horizontally that are about 8 to 10 inches in diameter. Reminds me of a steam locomotive when running. Gives a feeling of raw simple horsepower. The consensus of the old timers is that if the tractor has the low compression pistons it will work fine. However many were upgraded when rebuilt and had higher compression pistons installed. The higher compression WILL cause knocking and other things you mentioned. Will let the list know the results. JV Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
