[biofuel] Re: oil from algae...
Here is the link to the comprehensive Dept. of Energy Report (all 328 pages of it) A Look Back at the U.S. Department of Energy's Aquatic Species Program: Biodiesel from Algae http://www.ott.doe.gov/biofuels/pdfs/biodiesel_from_algae.pdf --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, lowell sheffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A lot of lit on this subject during 1980s. Search on NTIS which is U.S. gov repository for gov funded research. The critters you want info on are called Microalgae not algae and they produce Lipids which you and I call oil. If you want info about getting the oil out of the microalgae search on the net for Lipid Extraction. Most of NTIS research on this is under program called Aquatic Species Program. Try to get 1987 and 1985 reports. Each report cost me at least $30 to $60. Solar Energy Institute in Golden CO. published a neat small report in 1985 called Fuel options from Microalgae dated July 1984. If you get into this you will need to buy quite a few chemicals, some common like Epsom Salt, baking soda and some pretty exotic. If you want to look at houses for your critters search on the net for photobioreactor . Tried this once and failed. Also wife and daughters saw no humor in growing pond scum in the house. May try this one day when I get some space out of the house but am more interested in finding cheap sources of oil seeds. Hope this helps. Good luck. Lowell From: balaji [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae... Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 19:48:23 +0530 Hi all, So am I. Balaji, Chennai, TN, India - Original Message - From: Pieter Koole [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 1:26 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae... I am interested as well. Met vriendelijke groet, Pieter Koole Netherlands. The information contained in this message (including attachments) is confidential, and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error please delete it and notify the originator immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. We will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or in case of electronic communications as a result of any virus being passed on. - Original Message - From: wwschnabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 4:42 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae... I asked a while ago if anyone had any info on Oil from algae. What I would like to do is an experiment. Does anyone have any info on how exactly to extract the oil from algae? Could I do it in a home lab? Thanks, Bill [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Deze e-mail is door E-mail VirusScanner van Planet Internet gecontroleerd op virussen. Op http://www.planet.nl/evs staat een verwijzing naar de actuele lijst waar op wordt gecontroleerd. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links _ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page ö FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED
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- hm. very strange, totally unexpected. but the matter seems to have settled itself... literally,, the soy finally stratified...-looks like good separation.. took a lot longer though ..this was new soy oil. anyone have experience with lecithin? will it turn to biodiesel? thanks for your input... Marc - In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Cardoso, None too sure as to the why of your previous problems. They've never happened here, where the cleaner oils are primarily soy and hydrogenated soy and the dirtier oils combinations of both and animal fats. Canola isn't predominant in this region. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Marc Orion Cardoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 3:58 PM Subject: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae... - Thank you for your reply ... yes that is what im referring to,I can throw a vacuum on my column and bring the temp down well below boiling.. just trying to cut down on dwell time.. thanks again for your quick reply.. any clue as to why I had trouble with the soy oil whereas the canola did so nicely?? (referring to the prior questions that went unanswered) thanks again Marc. -- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Cardoso, It is presumed that the water-methanol mix that you are referring to is the microscopic residue after the washing stages are completed, as there is no water in the biodiesel prior to washing. If that's the case, you'll find that there is no need to elevate the temp much above 120*F in order to get the the microscopic water droplets to coalesce and fall out. Going beyond the 120* range and trying to distill the water out would generate a needless expenditure of fuel and the high heat - somewhere in the realm of 230* F - would begin to degrade the fuel unnecessarily. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Marc Orion Cardoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 2:39 PM Subject: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae... - Hello All, I asked some questions in my last post but didnt get any answers but Ill ask another one anyway and maybe someone will answer it. Im assuming that when the unwashed biodiesel stratifies, that pretty much all the Glycerine-methanol and soap has settled beneath the biodiesel and that can be decanted. The washing process to meet astm seems to take up a long time .. Is it feasable to distill the water-methanol mix out of the biodiesel rather than wait for it to separate and stratify?? or will trace elements of soap screw things up..?...any thoughts on this??? Marc -- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Marc Orion Cardoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - thanks for your good wishes, so far Ive had really good results with four consecutive litre batches of new canola oil using the usual 200 ml methanol and 3.5 grams of lye, agitating it for fifteen minutes with great results, a brandy coloured layer of glycerin and a layer of soap with the rest being fairly clear biodiesel, but yesterday afternoon I used wesson brand soybean oil (new) and found a clear layer at the bottom about 1/4 inch deep and the rest of the oil is cloudy it just doesnt seem to be a complete reaction. can you tell me why the canola worked and the soy didnt seem to? MARC -- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Marc Glad you've passed the first hurdles with making biodiesel, good for you. Thanks for the information, and please do keep us informed of your progress, especially with extracting oil from the algae for biodiesel. Best wishes Keith Dear Kieth and lowell. We have been growing algae of various types for a good number of years starting with Spirulina as a food and then venturing into algaes suitable for lipid production.. First we had to learn to grow algae and came to the level of designing a closed loop system that would allow the production of algaes under a broad range of climatic and geographic conditions in that, we succeeded... we have been growing dunaliela and butyrococcus with success in our research pond here at ecogenics center.. although we have been producing ethanol and methane for many many years and were well aware of the potential of algae for the production of lipids (oils) for biodiesel. we had not, untill very
[biofuel] Re: oil from algae...
never heard any more about it. Another list member researched the subject, he had good technical resources, and concluded that it's a waste of time right now, it just isn't there yet, at least not at a doable small-scale level. Marc Carduso of Ecogenics has posted several upbeat messages on the subject in the last few weeks. He's talked of Algae production for food fuel and fertiliser, algaeculture technology for oil production and algae based Living fuel cell technology, and referred list members to his website for further information. www.dabney.com/ecogenics/ I didn't find much information there, maybe I should have looked harder. I saw some photographs that looked to me like water hyacinth and duckweed, nice for greywater/blackwater treatment systems. I guess there's something I'm missing. I'm not being sceptical, just need more info I think. What's not clear to me is whether Marc has actually succeeded in producing lipids from algae in usable form and quantity. When last we heard Marc hadn't made any biodiesel yet but would be doing so soon. I don't know if Marc has made yet biodiesel from algae lipids. Can you tell us a bit more Marc? Meanwhile, personally I take your view Lowell, cheap sources of oil seeds are more interesting. There's huge and very largely unexplored potential in oil-bearing plants, as well as in productive and efficient ways of producing them. For instance, a quick search of James Duke's Handbook of Energy Crops finds 62 legumes, both plants and trees, either of which can be fitted to the cropping and growing patterns on integrated sutainable farms in a variety of ways, perhaps as cover crops, interplanted or undersown, for forage or green manure, earning their keep independently of their oil potential, which would come as a bonus produced without the dedicated use of of any land, or time and labour. Trees can be even more interesting. That's just some of the legumes. http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/dukeindex.html Handbook of Energy Crops Index Best Keith Lowell From: balaji [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae... Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 19:48:23 +0530 Hi all, So am I. Balaji, Chennai, TN, India - Original Message - From: Pieter Koole [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 1:26 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae... I am interested as well. Met vriendelijke groet, Pieter Koole Netherlands. The information contained in this message (including attachments) is confidential, and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error please delete it and notify the originator immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. We will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or in case of electronic communications as a result of any virus being passed on. - Original Message - From: wwschnabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 4:42 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae... I asked a while ago if anyone had any info on Oil from algae. What I would like to do is an experiment. Does anyone have any info on how exactly to extract the oil from algae? Could I do it in a home lab? Thanks, Bill Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae...
Mr. Cardoso, It is presumed that the water-methanol mix that you are referring to is the microscopic residue after the washing stages are completed, as there is no water in the biodiesel prior to washing. If that's the case, you'll find that there is no need to elevate the temp much above 120*F in order to get the the microscopic water droplets to coalesce and fall out. Going beyond the 120* range and trying to distill the water out would generate a needless expenditure of fuel and the high heat - somewhere in the realm of 230* F - would begin to degrade the fuel unnecessarily. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Marc Orion Cardoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 2:39 PM Subject: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae... - Hello All, I asked some questions in my last post but didnt get any answers but Ill ask another one anyway and maybe someone will answer it. Im assuming that when the unwashed biodiesel stratifies, that pretty much all the Glycerine-methanol and soap has settled beneath the biodiesel and that can be decanted. The washing process to meet astm seems to take up a long time .. Is it feasable to distill the water-methanol mix out of the biodiesel rather than wait for it to separate and stratify?? or will trace elements of soap screw things up..?...any thoughts on this??? Marc -- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Marc Orion Cardoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - thanks for your good wishes, so far Ive had really good results with four consecutive litre batches of new canola oil using the usual 200 ml methanol and 3.5 grams of lye, agitating it for fifteen minutes with great results, a brandy coloured layer of glycerin and a layer of soap with the rest being fairly clear biodiesel, but yesterday afternoon I used wesson brand soybean oil (new) and found a clear layer at the bottom about 1/4 inch deep and the rest of the oil is cloudy it just doesnt seem to be a complete reaction. can you tell me why the canola worked and the soy didnt seem to? MARC -- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Marc Glad you've passed the first hurdles with making biodiesel, good for you. Thanks for the information, and please do keep us informed of your progress, especially with extracting oil from the algae for biodiesel. Best wishes Keith Dear Kieth and lowell. We have been growing algae of various types for a good number of years starting with Spirulina as a food and then venturing into algaes suitable for lipid production.. First we had to learn to grow algae and came to the level of designing a closed loop system that would allow the production of algaes under a broad range of climatic and geographic conditions in that, we succeeded... we have been growing dunaliela and butyrococcus with success in our research pond here at ecogenics center.. although we have been producing ethanol and methane for many many years and were well aware of the potential of algae for the production of lipids (oils) for biodiesel. we had not, untill very recently ,actually produced biodiesel.. we have now reached that goal with a fair amount of consistancy and are now prepared to enter a new phase in our development program... that is.. the extraction of oil from our algaes and the consequent production of biodiesel from the resulting oils. we are soon embarking on a program of study involving extraction techniques and after that will undertake the necessary steps to make biodiesel from those oils.We are taking very cautious baby steps towards that goal.financial constraints have made it prudent to go slowly and deliberatly in all our endeavours one look at our website and one can see that we have touched upon many areas of RD over the years.we expect that with some wise investment of time and money we will successfully adress the extraction and production phase of the algae to biodiesel program..we will of course keep you posted as to our progressin the meantime we are ready to produce biodiesel from wvo...we have made the necessary modifications to our distillery so we can do this... Marc... -- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Lowell A lot of lit on this subject during 1980s. Search on NTIS which is U.S. gov repository for gov funded research. The critters you want info on are called Microalgae not algae and they produce Lipids which you and I call oil. If you want info about getting the oil out of the microalgae search on the net for Lipid Extraction. Most of NTIS research on this is under program called Aquatic Species Program. Try to get 1987 and 1985 reports
[biofuel] Re: oil from algae...
- Thank you for your reply ... yes that is what im referring to,I can throw a vacuum on my column and bring the temp down well below boiling.. just trying to cut down on dwell time.. thanks again for your quick reply.. any clue as to why I had trouble with the soy oil whereas the canola did so nicely?? (referring to the prior questions that went unanswered) thanks again Marc. -- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Cardoso, It is presumed that the water-methanol mix that you are referring to is the microscopic residue after the washing stages are completed, as there is no water in the biodiesel prior to washing. If that's the case, you'll find that there is no need to elevate the temp much above 120*F in order to get the the microscopic water droplets to coalesce and fall out. Going beyond the 120* range and trying to distill the water out would generate a needless expenditure of fuel and the high heat - somewhere in the realm of 230* F - would begin to degrade the fuel unnecessarily. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Marc Orion Cardoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 2:39 PM Subject: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae... - Hello All, I asked some questions in my last post but didnt get any answers but Ill ask another one anyway and maybe someone will answer it. Im assuming that when the unwashed biodiesel stratifies, that pretty much all the Glycerine-methanol and soap has settled beneath the biodiesel and that can be decanted. The washing process to meet astm seems to take up a long time .. Is it feasable to distill the water-methanol mix out of the biodiesel rather than wait for it to separate and stratify?? or will trace elements of soap screw things up..?...any thoughts on this??? Marc -- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Marc Orion Cardoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - thanks for your good wishes, so far Ive had really good results with four consecutive litre batches of new canola oil using the usual 200 ml methanol and 3.5 grams of lye, agitating it for fifteen minutes with great results, a brandy coloured layer of glycerin and a layer of soap with the rest being fairly clear biodiesel, but yesterday afternoon I used wesson brand soybean oil (new) and found a clear layer at the bottom about 1/4 inch deep and the rest of the oil is cloudy it just doesnt seem to be a complete reaction. can you tell me why the canola worked and the soy didnt seem to? MARC -- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Marc Glad you've passed the first hurdles with making biodiesel, good for you. Thanks for the information, and please do keep us informed of your progress, especially with extracting oil from the algae for biodiesel. Best wishes Keith Dear Kieth and lowell. We have been growing algae of various types for a good number of years starting with Spirulina as a food and then venturing into algaes suitable for lipid production.. First we had to learn to grow algae and came to the level of designing a closed loop system that would allow the production of algaes under a broad range of climatic and geographic conditions in that, we succeeded... we have been growing dunaliela and butyrococcus with success in our research pond here at ecogenics center.. although we have been producing ethanol and methane for many many years and were well aware of the potential of algae for the production of lipids (oils) for biodiesel. we had not, untill very recently ,actually produced biodiesel.. we have now reached that goal with a fair amount of consistancy and are now prepared to enter a new phase in our development program... that is.. the extraction of oil from our algaes and the consequent production of biodiesel from the resulting oils. we are soon embarking on a program of study involving extraction techniques and after that will undertake the necessary steps to make biodiesel from those oils.We are taking very cautious baby steps towards that goal.financial constraints have made it prudent to go slowly and deliberatly in all our endeavours one look at our website and one can see that we have touched upon many areas of RD over the years.we expect that with some wise investment of time and money we will successfully adress the extraction and production phase of the algae to biodiesel program..we will of course keep you posted as to our progressin the meantime we are ready to produce biodiesel from wvo...we have made the necessary modifications to our distillery so we can
Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae...
Mr. Cardoso, None too sure as to the why of your previous problems. They've never happened here, where the cleaner oils are primarily soy and hydrogenated soy and the dirtier oils combinations of both and animal fats. Canola isn't predominant in this region. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Marc Orion Cardoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 3:58 PM Subject: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae... - Thank you for your reply ... yes that is what im referring to,I can throw a vacuum on my column and bring the temp down well below boiling.. just trying to cut down on dwell time.. thanks again for your quick reply.. any clue as to why I had trouble with the soy oil whereas the canola did so nicely?? (referring to the prior questions that went unanswered) thanks again Marc. -- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Cardoso, It is presumed that the water-methanol mix that you are referring to is the microscopic residue after the washing stages are completed, as there is no water in the biodiesel prior to washing. If that's the case, you'll find that there is no need to elevate the temp much above 120*F in order to get the the microscopic water droplets to coalesce and fall out. Going beyond the 120* range and trying to distill the water out would generate a needless expenditure of fuel and the high heat - somewhere in the realm of 230* F - would begin to degrade the fuel unnecessarily. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Marc Orion Cardoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 2:39 PM Subject: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae... - Hello All, I asked some questions in my last post but didnt get any answers but Ill ask another one anyway and maybe someone will answer it. Im assuming that when the unwashed biodiesel stratifies, that pretty much all the Glycerine-methanol and soap has settled beneath the biodiesel and that can be decanted. The washing process to meet astm seems to take up a long time .. Is it feasable to distill the water-methanol mix out of the biodiesel rather than wait for it to separate and stratify?? or will trace elements of soap screw things up..?...any thoughts on this??? Marc -- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Marc Orion Cardoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - thanks for your good wishes, so far Ive had really good results with four consecutive litre batches of new canola oil using the usual 200 ml methanol and 3.5 grams of lye, agitating it for fifteen minutes with great results, a brandy coloured layer of glycerin and a layer of soap with the rest being fairly clear biodiesel, but yesterday afternoon I used wesson brand soybean oil (new) and found a clear layer at the bottom about 1/4 inch deep and the rest of the oil is cloudy it just doesnt seem to be a complete reaction. can you tell me why the canola worked and the soy didnt seem to? MARC -- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Marc Glad you've passed the first hurdles with making biodiesel, good for you. Thanks for the information, and please do keep us informed of your progress, especially with extracting oil from the algae for biodiesel. Best wishes Keith Dear Kieth and lowell. We have been growing algae of various types for a good number of years starting with Spirulina as a food and then venturing into algaes suitable for lipid production.. First we had to learn to grow algae and came to the level of designing a closed loop system that would allow the production of algaes under a broad range of climatic and geographic conditions in that, we succeeded... we have been growing dunaliela and butyrococcus with success in our research pond here at ecogenics center.. although we have been producing ethanol and methane for many many years and were well aware of the potential of algae for the production of lipids (oils) for biodiesel. we had not, untill very recently ,actually produced biodiesel.. we have now reached that goal with a fair amount of consistancy and are now prepared to enter a new phase in our development program... that is.. the extraction of oil from our algaes and the consequent production of biodiesel from the resulting oils. we are soon embarking on a program of study involving extraction techniques and after that will undertake the necessary steps to make biodiesel from those oils.We are taking very cautious baby steps towards that goal.financial
[biofuel] Re: oil from algae...
as a bonus produced without the dedicated use of of any land, or time and labour. Trees can be even more interesting. That's just some of the legumes. http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/dukeindex.html Handbook of Energy Crops Index Best Keith Lowell From: balaji [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae... Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 19:48:23 +0530 Hi all, So am I. Balaji, Chennai, TN, India - Original Message - From: Pieter Koole [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 1:26 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae... I am interested as well. Met vriendelijke groet, Pieter Koole Netherlands. The information contained in this message (including attachments) is confidential, and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error please delete it and notify the originator immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. We will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or in case of electronic communications as a result of any virus being passed on. - Original Message - From: wwschnabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 4:42 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae... I asked a while ago if anyone had any info on Oil from algae. What I would like to do is an experiment. Does anyone have any info on how exactly to extract the oil from algae? Could I do it in a home lab? Thanks, Bill Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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patterns on integrated sutainable farms in a variety of ways, perhaps as cover crops, interplanted or undersown, for forage or green manure, earning their keep independently of their oil potential, which would come as a bonus produced without the dedicated use of of any land, or time and labour. Trees can be even more interesting. That's just some of the legumes. http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/dukeindex.html Handbook of Energy Crops Index Best Keith Lowell From: balaji [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae... Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 19:48:23 +0530 Hi all, So am I. Balaji, Chennai, TN, India - Original Message - From: Pieter Koole [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 1:26 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae... I am interested as well. Met vriendelijke groet, Pieter Koole Netherlands. The information contained in this message (including attachments) is confidential, and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error please delete it and notify the originator immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. We will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or in case of electronic communications as a result of any virus being passed on. - Original Message - From: wwschnabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 4:42 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae... I asked a while ago if anyone had any info on Oil from algae. What I would like to do is an experiment. Does anyone have any info on how exactly to extract the oil from algae? Could I do it in a home lab? Thanks, Bill Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: oil from algae...
Hi Lowell A lot of lit on this subject during 1980s. Search on NTIS which is U.S. gov repository for gov funded research. The critters you want info on are called Microalgae not algae and they produce Lipids which you and I call oil. If you want info about getting the oil out of the microalgae search on the net for Lipid Extraction. Most of NTIS research on this is under program called Aquatic Species Program. Try to get 1987 and 1985 reports. Each report cost me at least $30 to $60. Solar Energy Institute in Golden CO. published a neat small report in 1985 called Fuel options from Microalgae dated July 1984. If you get into this you will need to buy quite a few chemicals, some common like Epsom Salt, baking soda and some pretty exotic. If you want to look at houses for your critters search on the net for photobioreactor . Tried this once and failed. Also wife and daughters saw no humor in growing pond scum in the house. May try this one day when I get some space out of the house but am more interested in finding cheap sources of oil seeds. Hope this helps. Good luck. You're not the first to reach that conclusion. Previously a list member set up ponds and so on and was going ahead full-steam but we never heard any more about it. Another list member researched the subject, he had good technical resources, and concluded that it's a waste of time right now, it just isn't there yet, at least not at a doable small-scale level. Marc Carduso of Ecogenics has posted several upbeat messages on the subject in the last few weeks. He's talked of Algae production for food fuel and fertiliser, algaeculture technology for oil production and algae based Living fuel cell technology, and referred list members to his website for further information. www.dabney.com/ecogenics/ I didn't find much information there, maybe I should have looked harder. I saw some photographs that looked to me like water hyacinth and duckweed, nice for greywater/blackwater treatment systems. I guess there's something I'm missing. I'm not being sceptical, just need more info I think. What's not clear to me is whether Marc has actually succeeded in producing lipids from algae in usable form and quantity. When last we heard Marc hadn't made any biodiesel yet but would be doing so soon. I don't know if Marc has made yet biodiesel from algae lipids. Can you tell us a bit more Marc? Meanwhile, personally I take your view Lowell, cheap sources of oil seeds are more interesting. There's huge and very largely unexplored potential in oil-bearing plants, as well as in productive and efficient ways of producing them. For instance, a quick search of James Duke's Handbook of Energy Crops finds 62 legumes, both plants and trees, either of which can be fitted to the cropping and growing patterns on integrated sutainable farms in a variety of ways, perhaps as cover crops, interplanted or undersown, for forage or green manure, earning their keep independently of their oil potential, which would come as a bonus produced without the dedicated use of of any land, or time and labour. Trees can be even more interesting. That's just some of the legumes. http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/dukeindex.html Handbook of Energy Crops Index Best Keith Lowell From: balaji [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae... Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 19:48:23 +0530 Hi all, So am I. Balaji, Chennai, TN, India - Original Message - From: Pieter Koole [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 1:26 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae... I am interested as well. Met vriendelijke groet, Pieter Koole Netherlands. The information contained in this message (including attachments) is confidential, and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error please delete it and notify the originator immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. We will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or in case of electronic communications as a result of any virus being passed on. - Original Message - From: wwschnabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 4:42 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae... I asked a while ago if anyone had any info on Oil from algae. What I would like to do is an experiment. Does anyone have any info on how exactly to extract the oil from algae? Could I do it in a home lab? Thanks, Bill Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50
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Hi all, So am I. Balaji, Chennai, TN, India - Original Message - From: Pieter Koole [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 1:26 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae... I am interested as well. Met vriendelijke groet, Pieter Koole Netherlands. The information contained in this message (including attachments) is confidential, and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error please delete it and notify the originator immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. We will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or in case of electronic communications as a result of any virus being passed on. - Original Message - From: wwschnabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 4:42 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae... I asked a while ago if anyone had any info on Oil from algae. What I would like to do is an experiment. Does anyone have any info on how exactly to extract the oil from algae? Could I do it in a home lab? Thanks, Bill [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Deze e-mail is door E-mail VirusScanner van Planet Internet gecontroleerd op virussen. Op http://www.planet.nl/evs staat een verwijzing naar de actuele lijst waar op wordt gecontroleerd. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae...
I asked a while ago if anyone had any info on Oil from algae. What I would like to do is an experiment. Does anyone have any info on how exactly to extract the oil from algae? Could I do it in a home lab? Thanks, Bill [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: oil from algae...
- Hi, go to ecogenics for info on oil from algae. www dabney.com/ecogenics/ we work with algae extensively.. Marc -- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, wwschnabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I asked a while ago if anyone had any info on Oil from algae. What I would like to do is an experiment. Does anyone have any info on how exactly to extract the oil from algae? Could I do it in a home lab? Thanks, Bill [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae...
I am interested as well. Met vriendelijke groet, Pieter Koole Netherlands. The information contained in this message (including attachments) is confidential, and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error please delete it and notify the originator immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. We will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or in case of electronic communications as a result of any virus being passed on. - Original Message - From: wwschnabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 4:42 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae... I asked a while ago if anyone had any info on Oil from algae. What I would like to do is an experiment. Does anyone have any info on how exactly to extract the oil from algae? Could I do it in a home lab? Thanks, Bill [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Deze e-mail is door E-mail VirusScanner van Planet Internet gecontroleerd op virussen. Op http://www.planet.nl/evs staat een verwijzing naar de actuele lijst waar op wordt gecontroleerd. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: oil from algae...
dear Dr. Jaya, we build our own laboratory equipment except of course, for digital temp measurement instrumentation (Cole Parmer). we use regular cool white flourescents for illumination.ph paper ,analog thermometers to back up the digitals.we do very little bench scale work the conditions found in a laboratory usually dont prove out in the field ...at least that is my experience..we do have a very nice laboratory with all kinds of pretty glasswork and lexan tanks for growing shrimp larvae but most of our algae work is done int he closed loop ecosystem and in two 15 ft. dia above ground pools. you might want to look up COLE PARMER for biotech equipment, SHOTT and KIMBLE for glassware..Fischer is also a good source for supplies and equipment. hope this helps. Marc --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, jprada chunduri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody, I am Dr.Jaya. My post doc project work is based on finding out local strains of algae - as a source of bio fuel. I require help to get price quotations for the euipment such as luminometer, Fermenter,Lumination chamber for culturing microalgae. I will be greatly obliged if you can give me information in this regard. Thanking you, jaya Marc Orion Cardoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Sorry about that the website is www dabney.com/ecogenics/ scroll down to the list of dabney's hosted websites.. or just write in ecogenics on google or aol.. no .com or anything im sure youll find it.. the skin care people are in germany and have nothing to do with us... we dont mind thier using the name because they are not in a related industry. and we like what they do..maybe theyll buy glycerine or pharmaceutical grade alcohol from us someday lolol...by the way this is our twenty fifth aniversary making alcohol in the U.S. Marc -- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Lowe wrote: Marc Orion Cardoso wrote: Hi. We have done extensive rd in algae production for food fuel and fertiliser... go to our website for more on this topic. click on And your web site is where? Replying to my own email, from some references in other emails from the same person http://www.dabney.com/ecogenics/ the tour ecogenics and youll see various fuel grade algaes being propagated... also, we have one of the most comprehensive manuals on the topic. there are two algaes in particular that we favour for biofuels... Dunaliela, and butyrococcus.as to living fuel cells .. chlamidomonas ,under the right conditions ,can produce more hydrogen than any other media but our work in that arena is limited to bench scale and we're not sure how that will translate into full scale as of yet though the potential is staggering.. Marc Regards, Andrew Lowe Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae...
Hello everybody, I am Dr.Jaya. My post doc project work is based on finding out local strains of algae - as a source of bio fuel. I require help to get price quotations for the euipment such as luminometer, Fermenter,Lumination chamber for culturing microalgae. I will be greatly obliged if you can give me information in this regard. Thanking you, jaya Marc Orion Cardoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Sorry about that the website is www dabney.com/ecogenics/ scroll down to the list of dabney's hosted websites.. or just write in ecogenics on google or aol.. no .com or anything im sure youll find it.. the skin care people are in germany and have nothing to do with us... we dont mind thier using the name because they are not in a related industry. and we like what they do..maybe theyll buy glycerine or pharmaceutical grade alcohol from us someday lolol...by the way this is our twenty fifth aniversary making alcohol in the U.S. Marc -- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Lowe wrote: Marc Orion Cardoso wrote: Hi. We have done extensive rd in algae production for food fuel and fertiliser... go to our website for more on this topic. click on And your web site is where? Replying to my own email, from some references in other emails from the same person http://www.dabney.com/ecogenics/ the tour ecogenics and youll see various fuel grade algaes being propagated... also, we have one of the most comprehensive manuals on the topic. there are two algaes in particular that we favour for biofuels... Dunaliela, and butyrococcus.as to living fuel cells .. chlamidomonas ,under the right conditions ,can produce more hydrogen than any other media but our work in that arena is limited to bench scale and we're not sure how that will translate into full scale as of yet though the potential is staggering.. Marc Regards, Andrew Lowe Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: oil from algae...
checkout: http://www.unh.edu/p2/biodiesel/article_alge.html there are some good links at the end of the article too. --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, wwschnabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any information on extracting oil from algae? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: oil from algae...
Hi. We have done extensive rd in algae production for food fuel and fertiliser... go to our website for more on this topic. click on the tour ecogenics and youll see various fuel grade algaes being propagated... also, we have one of the most comprehensive manuals on the topic. there are two algaes in particular that we favour for biofuels... Dunaliela, and butyrococcus.as to living fuel cells .. chlamidomonas ,under the right conditions ,can produce more hydrogen than any other media but our work in that arena is limited to bench scale and we're not sure how that will translate into full scale as of yet though the potential is staggering.. Marc --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, wwschnabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any information on extracting oil from algae? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: oil from algae...
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Marc Orion Cardoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. We have done extensive rd in algae production for food fuel and fertiliser... go to our website for more on this topic. click on the tour ecogenics and youll see various fuel grade algaes being propagated... also, we have one of the most comprehensive manuals on skipped Hello, It seams that you forgot to put the address of your website? While trying to gues www.ecogenics.com i only got some skin caring site :D Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae...
Marc Orion Cardoso wrote: Hi. We have done extensive rd in algae production for food fuel and fertiliser... go to our website for more on this topic. click on And your web site is where? the tour ecogenics and youll see various fuel grade algaes being propagated... also, we have one of the most comprehensive manuals on the topic. there are two algaes in particular that we favour for biofuels... Dunaliela, and butyrococcus.as to living fuel cells .. chlamidomonas ,under the right conditions ,can produce more hydrogen than any other media but our work in that arena is limited to bench scale and we're not sure how that will translate into full scale as of yet though the potential is staggering.. Marc Regards, Andrew Lowe Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae...
Andrew Lowe wrote: Marc Orion Cardoso wrote: Hi. We have done extensive rd in algae production for food fuel and fertiliser... go to our website for more on this topic. click on And your web site is where? Replying to my own email, from some references in other emails from the same person http://www.dabney.com/ecogenics/ the tour ecogenics and youll see various fuel grade algaes being propagated... also, we have one of the most comprehensive manuals on the topic. there are two algaes in particular that we favour for biofuels... Dunaliela, and butyrococcus.as to living fuel cells .. chlamidomonas ,under the right conditions ,can produce more hydrogen than any other media but our work in that arena is limited to bench scale and we're not sure how that will translate into full scale as of yet though the potential is staggering.. Marc Regards, Andrew Lowe Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: oil from algae...
- Sorry about that the website is www dabney.com/ecogenics/ scroll down to the list of dabney's hosted websites.. or just write in ecogenics on google or aol.. no .com or anything im sure youll find it.. the skin care people are in germany and have nothing to do with us... we dont mind thier using the name because they are not in a related industry. and we like what they do..maybe theyll buy glycerine or pharmaceutical grade alcohol from us someday lolol...by the way this is our twenty fifth aniversary making alcohol in the U.S. Marc -- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Lowe wrote: Marc Orion Cardoso wrote: Hi. We have done extensive rd in algae production for food fuel and fertiliser... go to our website for more on this topic. click on And your web site is where? Replying to my own email, from some references in other emails from the same person http://www.dabney.com/ecogenics/ the tour ecogenics and youll see various fuel grade algaes being propagated... also, we have one of the most comprehensive manuals on the topic. there are two algaes in particular that we favour for biofuels... Dunaliela, and butyrococcus.as to living fuel cells .. chlamidomonas ,under the right conditions ,can produce more hydrogen than any other media but our work in that arena is limited to bench scale and we're not sure how that will translate into full scale as of yet though the potential is staggering.. Marc Regards, Andrew Lowe Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
