Re: [biofuel] When you're a Geek and know what a computer can do .... You vote "no" Was: Direct Democracy
>The problem with that system would be ... who would be the "system >administrator" of such a system??? > >The Admin would have almost Godlike powers since, being in charge of >how votes are processes, would be able to make anyone he chooses ... "win" >the elections. How would that differ from the system currently employed for voting in the US? Over which I heard many complaints in your last elections, including many bitter complaints from people working with them, not just using them. You don't even get a bit of paper, AFAIK. It's just a software problem, no big deal to make it open and accountable. (Just don't let M$ have anything to do with it!) Easier than trying to do that with politicians and their campaigns! >And then later, through the media ahem "explain" >why the dude won. You mean like they do now? >I don't think I like the idea of having one single person >(or two or three guys) control "what the will of the people is". That's what you have now, with less than transparent transparency. How much of your government has anything much to do with the will of the people, as opposed to the will of massive vested interests, immensely wealthy, powerful and anti-democratic corporate entities that have the money to buy whatever government they want? Corporations have more human rights than you do, mere humans are only second-class citizens now - more "voting" power than you do too. That's the whole problem, it's not a democracy anymore, it's been bought off. How are you mere humans going to take it back? And you should, you really should! >You think >power is concentrated NOW ... you try wait until system administrator's got >the power to elect or not elect at the "click of a mouse". You're not looking at it right Curtis. You're not looking at the current "system" right either, though I think you see it clearly enough otherwise. Hey James, you've really puzzled the Americans, LOL! Or some of them anyway. Best explain the nuts and bolts a bit maybe. Best Keith >Nope, not me, > >Curtis >Computer Geek > >Get your free newsletter at >http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL > > >- Original Message - >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I wonder if anyone would like to make comment on the following... > Direct Democracy > > Teledemocracy - E-Democracy > > >.The teledemocracy movement seeks to reform >government to include the voices of citizens in the >policy making process. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] When you're a Geek and know what a computer can do .... You vote "no" Was: Direct Democracy
ah, unless it's an embedded system . ;) On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, csakima wrote: > The problem with that system would be ... who would be the "system > administrator" of such a system??? > > The Admin would have almost Godlike powers since, being in charge of > how votes are processes, would be able to make anyone he chooses ... > "win" > the elections. And then later, through the media ahem "explain" > why the dude won. I don't think I like the idea of having one single > person > (or two or three guys) control "what the will of the people is". You > think > power is concentrated NOW ... you try wait until system administrator's > got > the power to elect or not elect at the "click of a mouse". > > Nope, not me, > > Curtis > Computer Geek > > Get your free newsletter at > http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL > > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I wonder if anyone would like to make comment on the following... > Direct Democracy > >Teledemocracy - E-Democracy > > > .The teledemocracy movement seeks to reform > government to include the voices of citizens in the > policy making process. > > > - > Introducing NetZero Long Distance > 1st month Free! > Sign up today at: www.netzerolongdistance.com > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] When you're a Geek and know what a computer can do .... You vote "no" Was: Direct Democracy
The problem with that system would be ... who would be the "system administrator" of such a system??? The Admin would have almost Godlike powers since, being in charge of how votes are processes, would be able to make anyone he chooses ... "win" the elections. And then later, through the media ahem "explain" why the dude won. I don't think I like the idea of having one single person (or two or three guys) control "what the will of the people is". You think power is concentrated NOW ... you try wait until system administrator's got the power to elect or not elect at the "click of a mouse". Nope, not me, Curtis Computer Geek Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I wonder if anyone would like to make comment on the following... Direct Democracy Teledemocracy - E-Democracy .The teledemocracy movement seeks to reform government to include the voices of citizens in the policy making process. - Introducing NetZero Long Distance 1st month Free! Sign up today at: www.netzerolongdistance.com Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
