Re: [Biofuel] freezer test
I have some similar experience with gelling at about 5 ¡C when I use used frying oil(corn). When I use used sunflower oil the results are much better. With kind regards, Jan Lieuwe Bolding - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] freezer test Hello Brent I just did a test with some winter diesel and bio diesel blends. I did a 50%, 33%, and a 20% blend. At -20c the 50% got thick but didn't solidify or sepparate, and the other two were ok. Are these results consistant with what is expected from a good home brew fuel? Dunno about blends (we never use them), but you could try putting some of your homebrew in a jar in the freezer with a thermometer in the jar, check it every few minutes to see what temp it goes cloudy and gels. There's a test like that here: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_winter.html Biodiesel in winter: Journey to Forever We've used Wintron X30 pour-point depressant, but we only used it once this winter, and that's long gone, none left in the tank now (though we do have more). It's been cold a lot, but we haven't had any problems. The TownAce splutters and hiccups a little on starting, but start it does, first kick, and it quickly settles down. Hm... there's different ideas on the list of what's cold, I know: here it seldom gets worse (lower) than about -12 deg C or so (10.5 deg F), and that's rare. Right now it's -7 deg C, and can drop to -10 or so; more often the nighttime temps are about 0 to -5. But I've seen messages in autumn from folks in San Francisco panicking when it gets below 40 deg F (4.5 deg C), still well above freezing, and their biodiesel starts to gel, which I don't understand. Ours is good to -5 deg C (23 deg F), and it seems even lower, and it's nothing special, we didn't even get rid of the saturated fats in the WVO for winter fuel, as we probably should have. So I don't know what they're making in San Francisco. Best wishes Keith Brent Saskatchewan Canada 91 GMC 6.2 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] freezer test
Thank you for doing this test. I just wanted to do the same sort of test. By the way, does anybody know why the additives which are used for petro diesel are no good for use in BD ? Met dank en vriendelijke groet, Pieter Koole Netherlands : Brent S [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 4:22 PM Subject: [Biofuel] freezer test I just did a test with some winter diesel and bio diesel blends. I did a 50%, 33%, and a 20% blend. At -20c the 50% got thick but didn't solidify or sepparate, and the other two were ok. Are these results consistant with what is expected from a good home brew fuel? Brent Saskatchewan Canada 91 GMC 6.2 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] freezer test
What do you mean with Howes ? Met dank en vriendelijke groet, Pieter Koole Netherlands - Original Message - From: John Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 7:08 PM Subject: [Biofuel] freezer test I just did a test with some winter diesel and bio diesel blends. I did a 50%, 33%, and a 20% blend. At -20c the 50% got thick but didn't solidify or sepparate, and the other two were ok. (reply) Try adding a little of Howes diesel tret it works great with WVO but haven't tried adding Howes to Bio. Yours truly John Wilson Goldens *** Wilsonia Farm Kennel Preserve Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph-Fax (902)665-2386) Web: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/goldens/new.htm Pups: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/goldens/pup.htm Politics: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/goldens/elect.htm http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/goldens/c68.htm In Nova Scotia smoking permitted in designated areas only until 9:00 PM . After 9:00 it is okey to kill everyone. ^^^ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [Biofuel] freezer test
Howes Diesel Fuel Treatment http://www.howeslube.com/products/index.php/category/10 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Pieter Koole Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 14:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] freezer test What do you mean with Howes ? Met dank en vriendelijke groet, Pieter Koole Netherlands - Original Message - From: John Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 7:08 PM Subject: [Biofuel] freezer test I just did a test with some winter diesel and bio diesel blends. I did a 50%, 33%, and a 20% blend. At -20c the 50% got thick but didn't solidify or sepparate, and the other two were ok. (reply) Try adding a little of Howes diesel tret it works great with WVO but haven't tried adding Howes to Bio. Yours truly John Wilson Goldens *** Wilsonia Farm Kennel Preserve Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph-Fax (902)665-2386) Web: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/goldens/new.htm Pups: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/goldens/pup.htm Politics: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/goldens/elect.htm http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/goldens/c68.htm In Nova Scotia smoking permitted in designated areas only until 9:00 PM . After 9:00 it is okey to kill everyone. ^^^ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] freezer test
I just did a test with some winter diesel and bio diesel blends. I did a 50%, 33%, and a 20% blend. At -20c the 50% got thick but didn't solidify or sepparate, and the other two were ok. Are these results consistant with what is expected from a good home brew fuel? Dunno about blends (we never use them), but you could try putting some of your homebrew in a jar in the freezer with a thermometer in the jar, check it every few minutes to see what temp it goes cloudy and gels. There's a test like that here: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_winter.html Biodiesel in winter: Journey to Forever We've used Wintron X30 pour-point depressant, but we only used it once this winter, and that's long gone, none left in the tank now (though we do have more). It's been cold a lot, but we haven't had any problems. The TownAce splutters and hiccups a little on starting, but start it does, first kick, and it quickly settles down. Hm... there's different ideas on the list of what's cold, I know: here it seldom gets worse (lower) than about -12 deg C or so (10.5 deg F), and that's rare. Right now it's -7 deg C, and can drop to -10 or so; more often the nighttime temps are about 0 to -5. But I've seen messages in autumn from folks in San Francisco panicking when it gets below 40 deg F (4.5 deg C), still well above freezing, and their biodiesel starts to gel, which I don't understand. Ours is good to -5 deg C (23 deg F), and it seems even lower, and it's nothing special, we didn't even get rid of the saturated fats in the WVO for winter fuel, as we probably should have. So I don't know what they're making in San Francisco. Best wishes Keith Brent Saskatchewan Canada 91 GMC 6.2 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
