Re: [biofuel] Methanol CA?

[James Slayden]

Yep, called them today.  Looks like I will be getting my meth from them.


James Slayden

On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Ken Provost wrote:

> 
> On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 10:27  AM, James Slayden wrote:
> 
> > ERC Racing in San Lorenzo.  Anyone have a source in the south bay?
> >
> >
> I get mine at Kaeding Performance in Campbell. More expensive
> ($2.75 - 3.00 a gallon), but convenient.
> 
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Re: [biofuel] Methanol CA?

[James Slayden]

That Rocks Ken!!  Thanks.  Right outside my back door.

On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Ken Provost wrote:

> 
> On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 10:27  AM, James Slayden wrote:
> 
> > ERC Racing in San Lorenzo.  Anyone have a source in the south bay?
> >
> >
> I get mine at Kaeding Performance in Campbell. More expensive
> ($2.75 - 3.00 a gallon), but convenient.
> 
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Re: [biofuel] Methanol CA?

[Ken Provost]

On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 10:27  AM, James Slayden wrote:

> ERC Racing in San Lorenzo.  Anyone have a source in the south bay?
>
>
I get mine at Kaeding Performance in Campbell. More expensive
($2.75 - 3.00 a gallon), but convenient.


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Re: ethical ethanol was RE: [biofuel] Methanol CA?

[James Slayden]

Wow!! I just called Parallel Products to get a quote on a 55 gal drum, how
funny!!  Haven't gotten a response yet, put hoping to soon.

James Slayden

On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Ken Provost wrote:

> 
> On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 11:19  AM, girl mark wrote:
> 
> > the ethanol bulk buy is Ken Provost's project (listmember here as well
> > as
> > at the Burnveggies list...). It's an interesting one but be aware that
> > ethanol is not super useful for complete beginners- ethanol is much
> > harder
> > to work predictably with than methanol.
> 
> 
> > the ethanol supplier that Ken Provost wanted to bulk-buy from is in
> > your
> > L.A. neck of the woods , though- they are a sort of recycler- they make
> > fuel ethanol out of old distressed juice and out of date medicine and
> > other
> > industrial waste. Yeah!
> >
> > Ken (Ken Provost that is), do you wanna elaborate on that and give the
> > name of the company (I've erased it)?
> 
> Arrggghh! I think everyone else must've also -- I guess I'll just have
> to go
> down there by myself  (but I'll only be able to bring back one or two
> drums,
> and I WON'T SHARE!   :-)
> 
> Anyway, it's Parallel Products in Rancho Cucamonga -- great folks, but
> I've started worrying about that one gallon of gasoline in every 50 gal.
> of ethanol (that's their denaturant -- it's called "fuel-grade"
> ethanol, and
> it's what everyone else uses too for that grade). Especially if I sewer
> or
> compost my glycerine before recovering alcohol -- I know a goodly
> portion of the gasoline stays with the ethanol.. -K
> 
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Re: [biofuel] Methanol CA?

[James Slayden]

ERC Racing in San Lorenzo.  Anyone have a source in the south bay?

On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Ken wrote:

> Can anyone point me to a source for Methanol in sunny California???
> Thanks,
> Ken
> 
> 
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Re: [biofuel] Methanol CA?

[Ken]

Thanks for the help!  I live in the foothills Nevada City to be exact.  Hope
to get my Ford F250 runnin on bio-diesel soon.
Ken

- Original Message -
From: "girl mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
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Subject: Re: [biofuel] Methanol CA?


> well that depends on where you are in california. look in the phone book
> under racing (or automotive-racing and performance, amazing how many
people
> miss that one when they look at racetracks and only find the horse racing
> variety!). ask at your local hot rod shops or race engine builders. Look
> under (wholesale) gasoline or fuel or gas headings also.
> One brand of methanol we were finding was VP I believe, in sacramento
> somewhere.
> My current supplier in the SF area is ERC in San Lorenzo (510) 276 9334-
> it's a racing fuels distributor and you have the advantage of getting
small
> amounts- noo need to own a drum of the stuff if you live near a place like
> this- you just bring them a gas can (5 gal minimum order I believe) and it
> costs about 2.40 a gallon (price goes down with 16 gallon and bigger
> quantities).
> If you are experimenting on a liter scale and have a hard time finding
> methanol in small quantities, one form of Drygas-style gasonline line
> antifreeze from an auto parts store is methanol- I think it's the Heet
> brand, and you have to check that whatever  it is isn't isopropyl alcohol
> instead (like Iso-Heet or others)...
> good luck,
>
> mark
>
> At 08:46 AM 2/5/2003 -0800, you wrote:
> >Can anyone point me to a source for Methanol in sunny California???
> >Thanks,
> >Ken
> >
> >
> >
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Re: ethical ethanol was RE: [biofuel] Methanol CA?

[Ken Provost]

On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 11:19  AM, girl mark wrote:

> the ethanol bulk buy is Ken Provost's project (listmember here as well 
> as
> at the Burnveggies list...). It's an interesting one but be aware that
> ethanol is not super useful for complete beginners- ethanol is much 
> harder
> to work predictably with than methanol.


> the ethanol supplier that Ken Provost wanted to bulk-buy from is in 
> your
> L.A. neck of the woods , though- they are a sort of recycler- they make
> fuel ethanol out of old distressed juice and out of date medicine and 
> other
> industrial waste. Yeah!
>
> Ken (Ken Provost that is), do you wanna elaborate on that and give the
> name of the company (I've erased it)?

Arrggghh! I think everyone else must've also -- I guess I'll just have 
to go
down there by myself  (but I'll only be able to bring back one or two 
drums,
and I WON'T SHARE!   :-)

Anyway, it's Parallel Products in Rancho Cucamonga -- great folks, but
I've started worrying about that one gallon of gasoline in every 50 gal.
of ethanol (that's their denaturant -- it's called "fuel-grade" 
ethanol, and
it's what everyone else uses too for that grade). Especially if I sewer 
or
compost my glycerine before recovering alcohol -- I know a goodly
portion of the gasoline stays with the ethanol.. -K


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ethical ethanol was RE: [biofuel] Methanol CA?

[girl mark]

the ethanol bulk buy is Ken Provost's project (listmember here as well as 
at the Burnveggies list...). It's an interesting one but be aware that 
ethanol is not super useful for complete beginners- ethanol is much harder 
to work predictably with than methanol. I was able to get 100% ethanol from 
one of my race fuel places by special order, in an expensive small 
quantity, and it is good for experimenting with, without having a drum of 
ethanol that I won't regularly use sitting around either... anyway the 
point being that small quantities of ethanol aren't all that hard to come 
by when you want to experiment, usually denatured,sometimes with methanol, 
which is useful in this situation.

the ethanol supplier that Ken Provost wanted to bulk-buy from is in your 
L.A. neck of the woods , though- they are a sort of recycler- they make 
fuel ethanol out of old distressed juice and out of date medicine and other 
industrial waste. Yeah!

  Ken (Ken Provost that is), do you wanna elaborate on that and give the 
name of the company (I've erased it)? It's certainly interesting stuff for 
any alcohol fuels spark-ignition engine people down there...
mark


At 10:33 AM 2/5/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>Ken,
>Anywhere in particular in CA?
>How much Methanol are you looking for?
>I'm in San Diego, I buy 5-35gal quantities from VP Racing fuels through
>local performance shops. I wish I had the room to work with larger amounts,
>I'd buy in bulk direct from VP in LA, it's much cheaper.
>There's a group in Northern CA (burnveggies, I think) that was trying to put
>together a bulk buy of ethanol, seemed like a really good deal.
>Let me know what you find.
>
>Thanks,
>Ed
>
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Re: [biofuel] Methanol CA?

[girl mark]

well that depends on where you are in california. look in the phone book 
under racing (or automotive-racing and performance, amazing how many people 
miss that one when they look at racetracks and only find the horse racing 
variety!). ask at your local hot rod shops or race engine builders. Look 
under (wholesale) gasoline or fuel or gas headings also.
One brand of methanol we were finding was VP I believe, in sacramento 
somewhere.
My current supplier in the SF area is ERC in San Lorenzo (510) 276 9334- 
it's a racing fuels distributor and you have the advantage of getting small 
amounts- noo need to own a drum of the stuff if you live near a place like 
this- you just bring them a gas can (5 gal minimum order I believe) and it 
costs about 2.40 a gallon (price goes down with 16 gallon and bigger 
quantities).
If you are experimenting on a liter scale and have a hard time finding 
methanol in small quantities, one form of Drygas-style gasonline line 
antifreeze from an auto parts store is methanol- I think it's the Heet 
brand, and you have to check that whatever  it is isn't isopropyl alcohol 
instead (like Iso-Heet or others)...
good luck,

mark

At 08:46 AM 2/5/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>Can anyone point me to a source for Methanol in sunny California???
>Thanks,
>Ken
>
>
>
>
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RE: [biofuel] Methanol CA?

[Hall, Edward C.]

Ken,
Anywhere in particular in CA?
How much Methanol are you looking for?
I'm in San Diego, I buy 5-35gal quantities from VP Racing fuels through
local performance shops. I wish I had the room to work with larger amounts,
I'd buy in bulk direct from VP in LA, it's much cheaper.
There's a group in Northern CA (burnveggies, I think) that was trying to put
together a bulk buy of ethanol, seemed like a really good deal.
Let me know what you find.

Thanks,
Ed

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