RE: US BATF Ethanol Permits was Fwd: Re: [biofuel] Still start-up

2001-06-14 Thread kirk

In France custom distillers will render fruit or whatever  a farmer has that
may be too far along and turn it into something else of value. In Britain or
the US you pour spoiled jam or a corn chip processor pours liquid down drain
as it isn't worth the hassle dealing with the bureaucraps.

We could take a lesson from the French.

Kirk

-Original Message-
From: ronald miller sr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 7:36 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: US BATF Ethanol Permits was Fwd: Re: [biofuel] Still
start-up


And all of these years I thought we were a progressive thinking country.
Maybe it's because I don't drink is why I don't understand. I just want to
make fuel for my car.
Ron
- Original Message -
From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 11:14 PM
Subject: US BATF Ethanol Permits was Fwd: Re: [biofuel] Still start-up


 The text after my signature is taken directly off a US Dept. of the
 Treasury, BATF guide sheet for alcohol fuel plants. Alcohol fuel plants
 generally fall under small, medium and large.

 There are other formalities for Specially Denatured Spirits (SDS) users,
 alcohol fuel producers (small farm plants, etc.) and other alcohol use
 variations. Alcohol fuel producers start off with form 5110.74. But, as
with
 all paperwork, getting the form is the simple part.

 Success in obtaining a permit includes other responsibilities, such as
 securing storage facilities to prevent unauthorized entry. Depending upon
 production capacity, this could be construed to include razor wire,
security
 personnel, etc.

 BATF also secures the right to inspect facilities, records and reports
 during normal business hours, as well as acquisition of samples of
products
 to ensure compliance with law and regulations.

 Just in case anyone wishes to know.

 Todd
 Appal Energy
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 DISTILLED SPIRITS PLANT - INDUSTRIAL INFORMATION

 This refers to your request for forms and information regarding the
 establishment of a plant to produce industrial alcohol.

 In order to establish such a plant, you must comply with all the
 requirements of Part 19, Title 27, Code of Federal Regulations as follows:

 1) Register your plant on Form 5110.41 (see 27 CFR 19.151 and 19.152).

 2) Make application on Form 5110.25 for an operating permit (see 19.157
and
 19.158).

 3) File bond on Form 5110.56 (see Subpart H of Part 19). No photocopies or
 faxed copies of this form, please!

 4) File Form 5000.29, Environmental Information

 5) File Form 5000.30, Supplemental Water Quality Considerations.

 6) File Form 5000.9, Personnel Questionnaire, for each officer, director
and
 stockholder owning ten percent or more of the voting stock of the
 corporation.

 7) Furnish signature authority for each individual signing documents
 submitted to this Bureau. Either Form 5000.8, Power of Attorney, or Form
 5100.1, Signing Authority for Corporate Officials, may be used for this
 purpose. However, in lieu of these forms, a resolution by the Board of
 Directors granting signature authorization may be submitted.

 8) File application on Form 5100.16, to receive spirits by transfer in
bond
 (see 19.506). An application is required for each distilled spirits plant
 transferring spirits.

 9) If any trade names are to be used, submit evidence of State
registration.
 ..

  http://www.atf.treas.gov/forms/5000.htm#alcohol
  
 
  BTW, the form you want is 5110.74
 
  Sec. 19.910 Application for permit required.
  Any person wishing to establish an alcohol fuel plant shall first make
  application for and obtain an alcohol fuel producer's permit. The
  application for a permit will be on Form 5110.74. The application, in
  duplicate, will be submitted to the regional director (compliance).
  The description of stills on the approved application constitutes
  registration of stills as required by 27 CFR 196.45. Alcohol fuel
  producers' permits are continuing unless automatically terminated
  under Sec. 19.920, suspended or revoked as provided in Sec. 19.950,
  or voluntarily surrendered. (Sec. 201, Pub. L. 85-859, 72 Stat. 1355, as
  amended (26 U.S.C. 5179); Sec. 232, Pub. L. 96-223, 94 Stat. 278
  (26 U.S.C. 5181)) This was last updated on September 17, 1999.
 
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Re: US BATF Ethanol Permits was Fwd: Re: [biofuel] Still start-up

2001-06-13 Thread ronald miller sr

And all of these years I thought we were a progressive thinking country.
Maybe it's because I don't drink is why I don't understand. I just want to
make fuel for my car.
Ron
- Original Message -
From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 11:14 PM
Subject: US BATF Ethanol Permits was Fwd: Re: [biofuel] Still start-up


 The text after my signature is taken directly off a US Dept. of the
 Treasury, BATF guide sheet for alcohol fuel plants. Alcohol fuel plants
 generally fall under small, medium and large.

 There are other formalities for Specially Denatured Spirits (SDS) users,
 alcohol fuel producers (small farm plants, etc.) and other alcohol use
 variations. Alcohol fuel producers start off with form 5110.74. But, as
with
 all paperwork, getting the form is the simple part.

 Success in obtaining a permit includes other responsibilities, such as
 securing storage facilities to prevent unauthorized entry. Depending upon
 production capacity, this could be construed to include razor wire,
security
 personnel, etc.

 BATF also secures the right to inspect facilities, records and reports
 during normal business hours, as well as acquisition of samples of
products
 to ensure compliance with law and regulations.

 Just in case anyone wishes to know.

 Todd
 Appal Energy
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 DISTILLED SPIRITS PLANT - INDUSTRIAL INFORMATION

 This refers to your request for forms and information regarding the
 establishment of a plant to produce industrial alcohol.

 In order to establish such a plant, you must comply with all the
 requirements of Part 19, Title 27, Code of Federal Regulations as follows:

 1) Register your plant on Form 5110.41 (see 27 CFR 19.151 and 19.152).

 2) Make application on Form 5110.25 for an operating permit (see 19.157
and
 19.158).

 3) File bond on Form 5110.56 (see Subpart H of Part 19). No photocopies or
 faxed copies of this form, please!

 4) File Form 5000.29, Environmental Information

 5) File Form 5000.30, Supplemental Water Quality Considerations.

 6) File Form 5000.9, Personnel Questionnaire, for each officer, director
and
 stockholder owning ten percent or more of the voting stock of the
 corporation.

 7) Furnish signature authority for each individual signing documents
 submitted to this Bureau. Either Form 5000.8, Power of Attorney, or Form
 5100.1, Signing Authority for Corporate Officials, may be used for this
 purpose. However, in lieu of these forms, a resolution by the Board of
 Directors granting signature authorization may be submitted.

 8) File application on Form 5100.16, to receive spirits by transfer in
bond
 (see 19.506). An application is required for each distilled spirits plant
 transferring spirits.

 9) If any trade names are to be used, submit evidence of State
registration.
 ..

  http://www.atf.treas.gov/forms/5000.htm#alcohol
  
 
  BTW, the form you want is 5110.74
 
  Sec. 19.910 Application for permit required.
  Any person wishing to establish an alcohol fuel plant shall first make
  application for and obtain an alcohol fuel producer's permit. The
  application for a permit will be on Form 5110.74. The application, in
  duplicate, will be submitted to the regional director (compliance).
  The description of stills on the approved application constitutes
  registration of stills as required by 27 CFR 196.45. Alcohol fuel
  producers' permits are continuing unless automatically terminated
  under Sec. 19.920, suspended or revoked as provided in Sec. 19.950,
  or voluntarily surrendered. (Sec. 201, Pub. L. 85-859, 72 Stat. 1355, as
  amended (26 U.S.C. 5179); Sec. 232, Pub. L. 96-223, 94 Stat. 278
  (26 U.S.C. 5181)) This was last updated on September 17, 1999.
 
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