Re: [Biofuel] Guerilla Media...was 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG
Hey Jason; Has it worked for you like you said? What if you bring news that is particularly unpalatable to the advertisers they carry, you know, the ones who pay for those big whole page ads you see? Any idea what an add like that costs? I'd like to recommend a book to you (or I think you can even get a DVD) it's called "Manufacturing Consent" by Noam Chomsky. Have a look at the section which describes media filters and how and why they exist and work. Your opinion may change somewhat after reading that and you might tend to agree with Fritz a little more on that subject. Joe Jason Katie wrote: WARNING!!! FULL BLOWN OPINION AHEAD!!! this sounds kind of cruel, but if you go straight to the people working in the newspaper business (at least where im from) you can appeal directly to their interests and values, and if you feed them enough real news, eventually they will begin putting your stuff in the paper on a fairly regular basis, and you can slip some truth in between all the sports scores and the TV guide. people will then read it, and not realize that they learned something they would have never otherwise heard of. i believe this is the first step. the next step would be to try publishing facts that tear down the "normal standards" and give people options to think about. after so many years of being fed "one right way", changing someones mind will have to be slightly circuitous to begin with. when they start to think for themselves, that is when you offer them a chance to really explore life. How we gonna change all this? we need to get rid of all our Massmedia,change Journalismteachers and Schools and get started with independet Journalism! Keith would know more about this subject! Fritz ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Guerilla Media...was 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG
oh, i dont doubt fritz at all, but to suggest removing an entire system all at once without trying to exploit it before it goes away makes no sense to me. the way i see it, is you have to do it by steps, first, you start spreading actual news and facts, and when the newspaper begins to rely on you as a source, start with the brick by brick deconstruction of the media machine from the inside. it will take years if not decades, but i think it will work. On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 09:23 -0400, Joe Street wrote: Hey Jason; Has it worked for you like you said? What if you bring news that is particularly unpalatable to the advertisers they carry, you know, the ones who pay for those big whole page ads you see? Any idea what an add like that costs? I'd like to recommend a book to you (or I think you can even get a DVD) it's called Manufacturing Consent by Noam Chomsky. Have a look at the section which describes media filters and how and why they exist and work. Your opinion may change somewhat after reading that and you might tend to agree with Fritz a little more on that subject. Joe Jason Katie wrote: WARNING!!! FULL BLOWN OPINION AHEAD!!! this sounds kind of cruel, but if you go straight to the people working in the newspaper business (at least where im from) you can appeal directly to their interests and values, and if you feed them enough real news, eventually they will begin putting your stuff in the paper on a fairly regular basis, and you can slip some truth in between all the sports scores and the TV guide. people will then read it, and not realize that they learned something they would have never otherwise heard of. i believe this is the first step. the next step would be to try publishing facts that tear down the normal standards and give people options to think about. after so many years of being fed one right way, changing someones mind will have to be slightly circuitous to begin with. when they start to think for themselves, that is when you offer them a chance to really explore life. How we gonna change all this? we need to get rid of all our Massmedia,change Journalismteachers and Schools and get started with independet Journalism! Keith would know more about this subject! Fritz ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Guerilla Media...was 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG
"...slip some truth in between all the sports scores and the TV guide. people will then read it, and not realize that they learned something they would have never otherwiseheard of."LOL! That's awesome, tricking people into being educated.Once that happens, they'll be on our side!...I said educated, not sane.:-)Here is the biggest threat to the current administration and Rupert Murdoch's propaganda machine (IMO):"The Second Superpower is a term used to conceptualize a global civil society as a world force comparable to or counterbalancing the United States of America. The term derives originally from a 2003 New York Times article which described 'world public opinion' as one of two'superpowers.'"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_superpower -Redler Jason Katie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WARNING!!! FULL BLOWN OPINION AHEAD!!!this sounds kind of cruel, but if you go straight to the people workingin the newspaper business (at least where im from) you can appealdirectly to their interests and values, and if you feed them enough realnews, eventually they will begin putting your stuff in the paper on afairly regular basis, and you can slip some truth in between all thesports scores and the TV guide. people will then read it, and notrealize that they learned something they would have never otherwiseheard of. i believe this is the first step. the next step would be totry publishing facts that tear down the "normal standards" and givepeople options to think about. after so many years of being fed "oneright way", changing someones mind will have to be slightly circuitousto begin with. when they start to think for themselves, that is when youoffer them a chance to really explore life. How we gonna change all this? we need to get rid of all our Massmedia,change Journalismteachers and Schools and get started with independet Journalism! Keith would know more about this subject! Fritz___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Guerilla Media...was 34.6 cents per kilowatt hour. PG
WARNING!!! FULL BLOWN OPINION AHEAD!!! this sounds kind of cruel, but if you go straight to the people working in the newspaper business (at least where im from) you can appeal directly to their interests and values, and if you feed them enough real news, eventually they will begin putting your stuff in the paper on a fairly regular basis, and you can slip some truth in between all the sports scores and the TV guide. people will then read it, and not realize that they learned something they would have never otherwise heard of. i believe this is the first step. the next step would be to try publishing facts that tear down the normal standards and give people options to think about. after so many years of being fed one right way, changing someones mind will have to be slightly circuitous to begin with. when they start to think for themselves, that is when you offer them a chance to really explore life. How we gonna change all this? we need to get rid of all our Massmedia,change Journalismteachers and Schools and get started with independet Journalism! Keith would know more about this subject! Fritz ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
