Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel business plan
Evan - Can you tell the group about the responses you have received? Also - there are a couple of good entries if you do a search on the JTF website. Phillip Wolfe --- Evan Gady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, my name is Evan Gady and I am a student at Ball > State University in > Muncie, IN and I am working on a business plan > involving biodiesel. I am a > senior Entrepreneurship major and it is required for > us to compile a > business plan that is judged by a group of > evaluators later in the semester > and our graduation depends upon it. > > The plan I am working on is to set up a biodiesel > plant for manufacturing or > become a distributor of biodiesel for school > corporations and DOT's in the > midwest. I have talked with many people here in > Indiana that say they would > use biodiesel if they only knew where to find it. I > would like to help to > make it easier for people to get a hold of biodiesel > for use on their farms, > at school corporations for buses, and even for > government use possibly. > > Thank you for your consideration and I'd appreciate > any help from the > members of the mailing list. > > Evan Gady > 1416 W Gilbert > Muncie, IN 47303 > > 765-215-1083 > > > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [Biofuel] biodiesel business plan
I've always thought working out a co-distribution deal with a Home Heating Oil company would be something to shoot for, provided you could find one with a distribution network which is geographically similar enough to your customer base. Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evan Gady Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 6:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] biodiesel business plan Hi, my name is Evan Gady and I am a student at Ball State University in Muncie, IN and I am working on a business plan involving biodiesel. I am a senior Entrepreneurship major and it is required for us to compile a business plan that is judged by a group of evaluators later in the semester and our graduation depends upon it. The plan I am working on is to set up a biodiesel plant for manufacturing or become a distributor of biodiesel for school corporations and DOT's in the midwest. I have talked with many people here in Indiana that say they would use biodiesel if they only knew where to find it. I would like to help to make it easier for people to get a hold of biodiesel for use on their farms, at school corporations for buses, and even for government use possibly. Thank you for your consideration and I'd appreciate any help from the members of the mailing list. Evan Gady 1416 W Gilbert Muncie, IN 47303 765-215-1083 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Crude palm oil - was Re: [biofuel] biodiesel business
Hello >Hallo.. > >You might consider to add esterification reaction using Sulphuric >Acid to reduce FFA Content. >Or directly into transesterification, but it seems only acceptable >if FFA is lower than 5% (but lower BD quality), it means you must >use best quality of crude palm oil. > >There is another option (in order to have best quality of BD): >- Combining Biodiesel Plant with CPO refinery >- Put side stream after deodoriser prior to cristalization (using >steam with vacuum condition, so you will have less content of FFA). >- And BD processing begin with Transesterification. > >This scheme will describe Keith comment (removing FFA and >beta-caroten). FFA will be removed by deodorization, and beta >caraten will be removed during bleaching and degumming. Prof. Michael Allen and Gumpon Prateepchaiku worked on this problem in Thailand. FFA content of crude palm oil varies between 9% and 22% (depending a lot on how it's stored). The purpose of the project, or one of them, was to provide methods for local processing of crude palm oil, at the village level. This lets out your idea of a refinery - too centralised, things like centrifuges for separation after deacidification are expensive. They ended up with two proposals, one, an adaptation of Aleks Kac's two-stage acid-base process for high-FFA oils, and, two, a simple deacidification process I devised which doesn't need a centrifuge. The deacidification process is here - try it with a litre or two first, it takes some care not to mix it too violently: Deacidifying WVO http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make2.html#deacid You can find out more about how Michael and Gumpon used it in the archives of the Biofuels-biz mailing list: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuels-biz/ That's also where you'll find details of their acid-base adaptation for crude palm oil. One problem with deacidifying, or refining, is that it means lower production (yield) from CPO with the added problem of a lot of soapstock to find a use for or an outlet for. Soapstock can be useful stuff though, there are quite a lot of different products you can make from it. >Still, I prefer to use waste edible oil (Palm Oil based) as BD raw >material for Malaysia or Indonesia. >I'm waiting further comment.. That's certainly easier, or it should be, unless it's really been cooked to death. But we've heard very little about waste oil resources in Malaysia and Indonesia, mostly people there talk of using virgin oil, either refined or crude, and with refined I don't think the costings are very favourable. You might find these papers interesting: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_SVO-palm.html Palm Oil as a Fuel for Agricultural Diesel Engines http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_SVO-Allen.html Straighter-than-straight vegetable oils as diesel fuels Coconuts are also interesting, perhaps more so. Quite a lot about coconuts in the archives, of both lists. Best wishes Keith >Thanks, > >Best Regard, >A. Hidayat > > > - Original Message - > From: Keith Addison > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 5:10 PM > Subject: RE: [biofuel] biodiesel business > > > Hello JP > > >Hi Eva, > > Have you managed to make any biodiesel from crude palm oil yet? FFA > levels range from 9-22%, not so easy. You might have to refine it > first anyway. Also the beta-carotene content can interfere with the > reaction in some processes. > > Best > > Keith Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] biodiesel business
Hallo.. You might consider to add esterification reaction using Sulphuric Acid to reduce FFA Content. Or directly into transesterification, but it seems only acceptable if FFA is lower than 5% (but lower BD quality), it means you must use best quality of crude palm oil. There is another option (in order to have best quality of BD): - Combining Biodiesel Plant with CPO refinery - Put side stream after deodoriser prior to cristalization (using steam with vacuum condition, so you will have less content of FFA). - And BD processing begin with Transesterification. This scheme will describe Keith comment (removing FFA and beta-caroten). FFA will be removed by deodorization, and beta caraten will be removed during bleaching and degumming. Still, I prefer to use waste edible oil (Palm Oil based) as BD raw material for Malaysia or Indonesia. I'm waiting further comment.. Thanks, Best Regard, A. Hidayat - Original Message - From: Keith Addison To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 5:10 PM Subject: RE: [biofuel] biodiesel business Hello JP >Hi Eva, Have you managed to make any biodiesel from crude palm oil yet? FFA levels range from 9-22%, not so easy. You might have to refine it first anyway. Also the beta-carotene content can interfere with the reaction in some processes. Best Keith [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] biodiesel business
Hello JP >Hi Eva, > >We are planning to have a bio-diesel plant in Malaysia and thinking >of making our product cheaper cos' we are a third world country with >amble supply of crude palm oil. We are currently studying various >proposal using our feedstock as crude palm oil. Have you managed to make any biodiesel from crude palm oil yet? FFA levels range from 9-22%, not so easy. You might have to refine it first anyway. Also the beta-carotene content can interfere with the reaction in some processes. Best Keith >Interested to assist as to make this commercially viable for the green engine. > >Thank you. > >JP Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] biodiesel business
On Mon, 3 May 2004 23:35:47 -0700, you wrote: >You bring up a good point. It's hard to find "green" business people, since >there's a lot more money to be made elsewhere. I totally encourage your >efforts Tomas. My 2 cents on your question: maybe you could contact other >schools that use biodiesel in their fleets and see what they've done. I know >they are out there but not sure which ones they are. > >As for biodiesel business, I have noticed in the past few weeks that: >- there are a LOT of homebrewers and co-ops (yay!) >- there are NOT a lot of commercial biodiesel suppliers or retail biodiesel >stations. Even though in my (very non-MBA) head it seems like a pretty >simple and straightforward thing to do commercially (except maybe the >government hoops - ASTM standards and all that). > >I think co-ops and homebrews have their place but a biodiesel station >franchise, for example, that uses its profits to add more biodiesel >stations, sounds like a fantastic way to leverage capitalism to undermine >our dependence on foreign oil. What are the roadblocks preventing biodiesel >business from taking off? Lack of "green" MBAs? OPEC politics? Expensive >required EPA testing (I don't understand this issue at all)? Not enough >waste veg. oil to meet demand? Not enough diesel passenger cars out there? >Seems like if biodiesel were easily available along major commutes in major >cities, ordinary folks would gladly pay less per gallon for biodiesel and >feel good about themselves for saving the environment and preventing future >wars to boot. I think, in addition to the hypotheses you mention, we could question that the fuel distribution and retailing business is a different issue from the fuel production business. If you make a great amount of consistently high-quality biodiesel, where do you go with it? Should we expect the Exxon Station down the street to sell it, and a pump right next to dino diesel? Even if the station owner has his heart in the right place and wants to help us, I question whether there wouldn't be tremendously powerful forces at work preventing him from doing that. I haven't really investigated this at length, but I think this partly explains why it took so long to build E-85 distribution into the U.S. fuel distribution system. In short over-simplification: we're asking petro-sellers to sell the fuel of their competitor, without them having much incentive to do so. It has taken awhile to figure out how to get that to happen. > >I'll tell ya, I was born an engineer and the acronym "MBA" always made my >stomach turn, but I'd get an MBA in a heartbeat if I knew I could use it to >start a biodiesel business from which I could make a decent living. Girl Mark's group was recently started to discuss some small-scale biofuel business issues: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/local-b100-biz/ I tend to agree on initial gut reactions to the "MBA" acronym. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] biodiesel business
Hi,I am joining from Turkey.We plan to produce biodiesel in Turkey.Now we are working on making biodiesel from palm oil.We try sunflower and used oil.Can anyone give me more information making palm biodiesel. -Original Message- From: Kim Phung [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 12:01 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [biofuel] biodiesel business Hi Eva, We are planning to have a bio-diesel plant in Malaysia and thinking of making our product cheaper cos' we are a third world country with amble supply of crude palm oil. We are currently studying various proposal using our feedstock as crude palm oil. Interested to assist as to make this commercially viable for the green engine. Thank you. JP , Eva Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You bring up a good point. It's hard to find "green" business people, since there's a lot more money to be made elsewhere. I totally encourage your efforts Tomas. My 2 cents on your question: maybe you could contact other schools that use biodiesel in their fleets and see what they've done. I know they are out there but not sure which ones they are. As for biodiesel business, I have noticed in the past few weeks that: - there are a LOT of homebrewers and co-ops (yay!) - there are NOT a lot of commercial biodiesel suppliers or retail biodiesel stations. Even though in my (very non-MBA) head it seems like a pretty simple and straightforward thing to do commercially (except maybe the government hoops - ASTM standards and all that). I think co-ops and homebrews have their place but a biodiesel station franchise, for example, that uses its profits to add more biodiesel stations, sounds like a fantastic way to leverage capitalism to undermine our dependence on foreign oil. What are the roadblocks preventing biodiesel business from taking off? Lack of "green" MBAs? OPEC politics? Expensive required EPA testing (I don't understand this issue at all)? Not enough waste veg. oil to meet demand? Not enough diesel passenger cars out there? Seems like if biodiesel were easily available along major commutes in major cities, ordinary folks would gladly pay less per gallon for biodiesel and feel good about themselves for saving the environment and preventing future wars to boot. I'll tell ya, I was born an engineer and the acronym "MBA" always made my stomach turn, but I'd get an MBA in a heartbeat if I knew I could use it to start a biodiesel business from which I could make a decent living. From: Ken Provost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 4:49 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] biodiesel business on 5/3/04 12:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I want to make some money with biodiesel. Why? Can't you just be a day trader or something? -K Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links . To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ . To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT - Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this gr
Re: [biofuel] biodiesel business
On Mon, 03 May 2004 15:32:47 -0400, you wrote: >Sorry if that last email got sent... >Anyway, Hello >I'm currently a student (studying business) and I want to make some money with >biodiesel. For starteers, I want to convince my school to run their diesel >fleet off bio. However, i have absolutly no knowledge about setting up a >biodiesel business. Has anybody done this? Either distribution or small-scale >manufacturing? >Thanks, >Tomas Novickas In addition to what you may learn in this group, there is another group recently set up by Girl Mark, a participant here, where small-scale biodiesel business issues are discussed: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/local-b100-biz/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] biodiesel business
Hi Eva, We are planning to have a bio-diesel plant in Malaysia and thinking of making our product cheaper cos' we are a third world country with amble supply of crude palm oil. We are currently studying various proposal using our feedstock as crude palm oil. Interested to assist as to make this commercially viable for the green engine. Thank you. JP , Eva Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You bring up a good point. It's hard to find "green" business people, since there's a lot more money to be made elsewhere. I totally encourage your efforts Tomas. My 2 cents on your question: maybe you could contact other schools that use biodiesel in their fleets and see what they've done. I know they are out there but not sure which ones they are. As for biodiesel business, I have noticed in the past few weeks that: - there are a LOT of homebrewers and co-ops (yay!) - there are NOT a lot of commercial biodiesel suppliers or retail biodiesel stations. Even though in my (very non-MBA) head it seems like a pretty simple and straightforward thing to do commercially (except maybe the government hoops - ASTM standards and all that). I think co-ops and homebrews have their place but a biodiesel station franchise, for example, that uses its profits to add more biodiesel stations, sounds like a fantastic way to leverage capitalism to undermine our dependence on foreign oil. What are the roadblocks preventing biodiesel business from taking off? Lack of "green" MBAs? OPEC politics? Expensive required EPA testing (I don't understand this issue at all)? Not enough waste veg. oil to meet demand? Not enough diesel passenger cars out there? Seems like if biodiesel were easily available along major commutes in major cities, ordinary folks would gladly pay less per gallon for biodiesel and feel good about themselves for saving the environment and preventing future wars to boot. I'll tell ya, I was born an engineer and the acronym "MBA" always made my stomach turn, but I'd get an MBA in a heartbeat if I knew I could use it to start a biodiesel business from which I could make a decent living. From: Ken Provost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 4:49 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] biodiesel business on 5/3/04 12:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I want to make some money with biodiesel. Why? Can't you just be a day trader or something? -K Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links ð To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ ð To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ð Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT - Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] biodiesel business
You bring up a good point. It's hard to find "green" business people, since there's a lot more money to be made elsewhere. I totally encourage your efforts Tomas. My 2 cents on your question: maybe you could contact other schools that use biodiesel in their fleets and see what they've done. I know they are out there but not sure which ones they are. As for biodiesel business, I have noticed in the past few weeks that: - there are a LOT of homebrewers and co-ops (yay!) - there are NOT a lot of commercial biodiesel suppliers or retail biodiesel stations. Even though in my (very non-MBA) head it seems like a pretty simple and straightforward thing to do commercially (except maybe the government hoops - ASTM standards and all that). I think co-ops and homebrews have their place but a biodiesel station franchise, for example, that uses its profits to add more biodiesel stations, sounds like a fantastic way to leverage capitalism to undermine our dependence on foreign oil. What are the roadblocks preventing biodiesel business from taking off? Lack of "green" MBAs? OPEC politics? Expensive required EPA testing (I don't understand this issue at all)? Not enough waste veg. oil to meet demand? Not enough diesel passenger cars out there? Seems like if biodiesel were easily available along major commutes in major cities, ordinary folks would gladly pay less per gallon for biodiesel and feel good about themselves for saving the environment and preventing future wars to boot. I'll tell ya, I was born an engineer and the acronym "MBA" always made my stomach turn, but I'd get an MBA in a heartbeat if I knew I could use it to start a biodiesel business from which I could make a decent living. From: Ken Provost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 4:49 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] biodiesel business on 5/3/04 12:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I want to make some money with biodiesel. Why?ÊÊ Can't you just be a day trader or something? -K Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links ð To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ Ê ð To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ê ð Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] biodiesel business
on 5/3/04 12:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I want to make some money with biodiesel. Why? Can't you just be a day trader or something? -K Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
