Re: [biofuels-biz] Malaysian palm diesel
Hi Ong Its Idul Fitri (Muslim feat after the fast) vacation time in Indonesia and the reason for the delay in getting back to you. Our office reopens next Monday December 8. Im curious why you are using the most expensive palm oil derivative to make biodiesel! Maybe CPO or getting WVO from local food processors would make more sense. Are there rejects, tailings etc available that you can process. I dont believe importing other oils would be a good idea at all. You have transportation and tax costs as well as palm oil traditionally costing 30% or so less than soy. Best regards, Ken --- gumpon prateepchaikul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Ken In Malaysia they are making biodiesel from olein palm oil and the final product is clear as beta carotene is removed during the process of making olein from crude palm oil as we did here in Thailand. But if biodiesel is produced from crude palm oil the colour is off course quite red because of beta carotene in it and we can remove by the method as you mentioned. Right here in our department we can make mehtyl ester from both crude palm oil and mixed crude palm oil with the percentage of methyl ester up to 98 % (in small batch). Regards Gumpon SNIP __ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] Malaysian palm diesel
Hi Ong You can try separating beta carotene from the FAME by distillation as an additional profit center. Distillation decolorizes and gives you a clean product leaving behind the carotene. CPO is a bit cheaper and why not WVO? FYI CPO contains 500-to-3,000 ppm carotenes, mostly beta. Ken in Indonesia --- obk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Kieth all, In Malaysia, we are producing high quality biodiesel from refined palm oil (RBD olein). But the price of RBD is prohibitive- RM2,000 (US$ 530) per m/ton which is RM1.80 (US$ 0.47) per liter. Is there any other cheaper virgin vegetable oil available? What is the price of rapeseed oil (canola?), soya (soy) oil, corn oil per liter? Malaysia palm diesel ASTM test results: Pour point -3C Density @ 15C 0.87 Kinematic viscosity @ 40C 21.5 Flash point 90.5 Sulphur 0.05 Water sediment not detected acid number 0.19 Detailed test report available on request. Anyone interested in importing or manufacturing palm diesel? We are also using lubricating engine oil made from RBD to run our motor cars and lorries. Anyone dare to try? Regards, Ong BK email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] Malaysian palm diesel
Dear Ken In Malaysia they are making biodiesel from olein palm oil and the final product is clear as beta carotene is removed during the process of making olein from crude palm oil as we did here in Thailand. But if biodiesel is produced from crude palm oil the colour is off course quite red because of beta carotene in it and we can remove by the method as you mentioned. Right here in our department we can make mehtyl ester from both crude palm oil and mixed crude palm oil with the percentage of methyl ester up to 98 % (in small batch). Regards Gumpon Ken Gotberg wrote: Hi Ong You can try separating beta carotene from the FAME by distillation as an additional profit center. Distillation decolorizes and gives you a clean product leaving behind the carotene. CPO is a bit cheaper and why not WVO? FYI CPO contains 500-to-3,000 ppm carotenes, mostly beta. Ken in Indonesia --- obk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Kieth all, In Malaysia, we are producing high quality biodiesel from refined palm oil (RBD olein). But the price of RBD is prohibitive- RM2,000 (US$ 530) per m/ton which is RM1.80 (US$ 0.47) per liter. Is there any other cheaper virgin vegetable oil available? What is the price of rapeseed oil (canola?), soya (soy) oil, corn oil per liter? Malaysia palm diesel ASTM test results: Pour point -3C Density @ 15C 0.87 Kinematic viscosity @ 40C 21.5 Flash point 90.5 Sulphur 0.05 Water sediment not detected acid number 0.19 Detailed test report available on request. Anyone interested in importing or manufacturing palm diesel? We are also using lubricating engine oil made from RBD to run our motor cars and lorries. Anyone dare to try? Regards, Ong BK email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] Malaysian palm diesel
Hi OBK, I believe soy is the cheapest virgin oil at $0.20 per lb. the only oil stock cheaper is yellow grease at $0.12 lb. Orion summa scientia nihil scire Help the planet each day! It's free and easy: http://www.Care2.com/dailyaction/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
