Re: CFL incandescent bulbs -- was: [biofuel] RE:californians 50%
Check out IKEA! Better price than Costco! - Original Message - From: James Slayden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:22 AM Subject: Re: CFL incandescent bulbs -- was: [biofuel] RE:californians 50% I just recently got a pack of 5 CF 60W replacements (twist type) at Costco for ~$9, which would mean they're about $2 bucks a pop. Not bad methinnks. They also had a 3 pack of 100W replactments for the same. What I am still searching for is a good priced Full Spectrum 100W replacement CF. They are quite expensive right now at ~$20 a pop. Don't want to get SAD in the wintertime. James Slayden On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, MH wrote: Mark wrote: CF bulb prices are plummeting. 3 for $10 at home depot The last time I looked was last year about this time. Darn, thats a good price!!! I heard last year the next generation CFL bulbs where coming out thus explaining the plummeting prices I'd guess. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT HGTV Dream Home Giveaway Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: CFL incandescent bulbs -- was: [biofuel] RE:californians 50%
Mark wrote: CF bulb prices are plummeting. 3 for $10 at home depot The last time I looked was last year about this time. Darn, thats a good price!!! I heard last year the next generation CFL bulbs where coming out thus explaining the plummeting prices I'd guess. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: CFL incandescent bulbs -- was: [biofuel] RE:californians 50%
I just recently got a pack of 5 CF 60W replacements (twist type) at Costco for ~$9, which would mean they're about $2 bucks a pop. Not bad methinnks. They also had a 3 pack of 100W replactments for the same. What I am still searching for is a good priced Full Spectrum 100W replacement CF. They are quite expensive right now at ~$20 a pop. Don't want to get SAD in the wintertime. James Slayden On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, MH wrote: Mark wrote: CF bulb prices are plummeting. 3 for $10 at home depot The last time I looked was last year about this time. Darn, thats a good price!!! I heard last year the next generation CFL bulbs where coming out thus explaining the plummeting prices I'd guess. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT HGTV Dream Home Giveaway Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: CFL incandescent bulbs -- was: [biofuel] RE:californians 50%
I just recently got a pack of 5 CF 60W replacements (twist type) at Costco for ~$9, which would mean they're about $2 bucks a pop. Not bad methinnks. They also had a 3 pack of 100W replactments for the same. Hi James, I thought my return on investment looked pretty good six years ago. You folks are making out like bandits it appears. What I am still searching for is a good priced Full Spectrum 100W replacement CF. They are quite expensive right now at ~$20 a pop. Don't want to get SAD in the wintertime. James Can SAD be reduced by going outside ?? AS A SIDE NOTE -- I get sad listening to the war drums beating for preemptive military strikes rather then negotiations seemingly disregarding the people within the international community such as the United Nations. It's sad that innocent victims have to suffer from terror and violence. CFL's is one way some can voice their opinion in the form of energy conservation while other consumers convey their rights as well IF reducing proliferating expenditures is desirable. I may have pushed the wrong button for some of you folks but I just wanted to voice the truth the way I see it for a more peaceful resolution in the ongoing militant conflict and my hope for democracy to have a part in this credibility gap between the leaders of our eco-nomic sphere. I'd prefer the UN decide rather then capitalist interests. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: CFL incandescent bulbs -- was: [biofuel] RE:californians 50%
Yes, SAD can be reduced by going outside. =) Sometimes that isn't always an option, and it helps to have the full spectrum lighting. Conservation is key. How transportation is set up is highly important to transportation energy conservation. I walk to work most days, but I am unusually lucky in this respect. Looking at the Demographic of the Silicon Valley here, the two largest energy users are business and transportation, both which could stand vast improvements. Business will not conserve unless forced to, ie. higher business energy rates, and the transportation sector will not change unless absolutely forced to via state/federal mandates (CARB ZEV/milage standards) or competition. I think we are seeing that the Japanese are leading the way to conservation with hybrids, and Europe will be coming up with clean efficient diesels. But with a president that is moving against the will of the people of the united states in his war machine to the middle east, the only hope is that his advisors for his next election campaign will notice the pollster drop and rally for a new term instead of BigOil interests. Highly unlikely, but possible. So, now you all know who NOT to vote for in the coming election . BTW, has anyone heard anything about a draft? ;-) James Slayden On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, MH wrote: I just recently got a pack of 5 CF 60W replacements (twist type) at Costco for ~$9, which would mean they're about $2 bucks a pop. Not bad methinnks. They also had a 3 pack of 100W replactments for the same. Hi James, I thought my return on investment looked pretty good six years ago. You folks are making out like bandits it appears. What I am still searching for is a good priced Full Spectrum 100W replacement CF. They are quite expensive right now at ~$20 a pop. Don't want to get SAD in the wintertime. James Can SAD be reduced by going outside ?? AS A SIDE NOTE -- I get sad listening to the war drums beating for preemptive military strikes rather then negotiations seemingly disregarding the people within the international community such as the United Nations. It's sad that innocent victims have to suffer from terror and violence. CFL's is one way some can voice their opinion in the form of energy conservation while other consumers convey their rights as well IF reducing proliferating expenditures is desirable. I may have pushed the wrong button for some of you folks but I just wanted to voice the truth the way I see it for a more peaceful resolution in the ongoing militant conflict and my hope for democracy to have a part in this credibility gap between the leaders of our eco-nomic sphere. I'd prefer the UN decide rather then capitalist interests. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT HGTV Dream Home Giveaway Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: CFL incandescent bulbs -- was: [biofuel] RE:californians 50%
James Slayden wrote: What I am still searching for is a good priced Full Spectrum 100W replacement CF. They are quite expensive right now at ~$20 a pop. Don't want to get SAD in the wintertime. James Slayden When we did the lights for our new house, I specified full spectrum CF bulbs or halogens to avoid the SAD problem in our low insolation climate. Every 28 watt full spectrum CF bulb cost me over $20.00 CDN (and our kitchen alone has seven of these!), but it's very bright in there and my sweetheart has much better visibility than she had when we were using four 100 watt incandescents in our old house. Another advantage to the new bulbs is that they're instant on ballasts--no annoying flicker, and we get light right away. After about 30 seconds, the bulbs are fully warm. Our living area has four 11 watt CF bulbs from Ikea--the older kind with the greenish light that flicker most irritatingly whenever they're activated. We use these with a pair of very old 15 watt Panasonic CF bulbs in torchieres, and together, the light quality is decent enough for reading. So, we use 74 watts in the living room where we used to use a pair of 150 watt halogens. Originally, I put 28 watt full spectrum lights in the living room too, but my sweetheart didn't like the bright, white light in the living area, so we compromised for the inferior bulbs. Bedroom areas, hallways and bedside reading lamps all have full spectrum spiral CF bulbs from Sylvania. These are also instant on, and ran about $12 CDN each. The new bulbs with instant on ballasts are worth the money, as far as I'm concerned. The light quality is far better than the dinky no name Chinese bulbs we bought from Ikea--although I believe even the Sylvania bulbs are Chinese too! Our new house is almost twice the size of the old one. Even with gas heat and gas hot water, we're using about the same amount of electricity per month as we did before, when all of our hot water came from an electric tank. I blame this on some of our smart appliances, which seem to use more energy than the dumb old ones used to, partly because the dumb old ones had smarter operators! robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.1stbooks.com/bookview/9782 Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
