[svg-developers] sending variables from SVG+JS to PHP+JS

2004-11-01 Thread Hauke ChristopH


hi there,

i am creating new objects by manipulating the SVG-DOM with
javascript/ECMA.

my problem is to send the newly generated coordinates of a polygon to
the PHP/HTML/mother-document in which the SVG is embeded.

it is not possible to send the variables attached to the URL, because
it is too much data!

using a hidden form-element should be the right choice - i guess. 
and actually - this is already working fine using the
internet-explorer. but it is only(!) the IE who does it!!! :-(

any ideas how i get firefox/mozilla to comunicate between the scripts
of SVG- and PHP/HTML-document???

your help will be appreciated!
thanks - hauke





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Re: [svg-developers] new window

2004-11-01 Thread Philippe Lhoste

kelumsvg wrote:
 i hava svg rect in my document.
 i want to open new window when click on it.
 for that i used 
 javascript window.open

   a xlink:href=http://Phi.Lho.free.fr; target=_blank
 rect x=50 y=30 width=150 height=40
   fill=#0FF stroke=#FF0/
 text x=60 y=55http://Phi.Lho.free.fr/text
   /a

may be what you are looking for.

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[svg-developers] Re: [ANN] MOBIFORM XAML Editor and XAML Clone Released for XP

2004-11-01 Thread Jan-Klaas Kollhof


Hello Philippe,

It's time for us SVG people to wake up!
The future is XAML!


Jan


PS:
130 people on http://groups.yahoo.com/group/XAML/
25 on http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xaml-talk/
45 on http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mobiform_support/
4972 on http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/
















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Re: [svg-developers] [ANN] MOBIFORM XAML Editor and XAML Clone Released for XP

2004-11-01 Thread ronan

Philippe, xaml is a competing technology to SVG... this makes it relevant
to svg-developers, no? Especially a first-out-of-the-gate product like
theirs...

IMHO, It's a shame we dont have anybody making so much of a splash with
SVG...

Philippe Lhoste wrote:

 svgdeveloper wrote:
 MOBIFORM XAML Editor and XAML Clone have been released for Windows
 XP and Longhorn

 I wonder what this announcement is doing on the SVG mailing list...


I do have to agree about the bit regarding unsoliccited spam. But I
suspect you may have tested their product and given away an email address
at some time. I got a similar email at my email address on my client's
domain. And I used this email address to evaluate a previous Mobiform
product.

Give them the benefit of the doubt. They're small, they're keen, and they
believe immensely in their product.

Ronan

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RE: [svg-developers] [ANN] MOBIFORM XAML Editor and XAML Clone Released for XP

2004-11-01 Thread Rick Bullotta

If I were them, however, I would be greatly concerned about intellectual
property issues when releasing a product that, by definition, clones the
XAML API's.  Hopefully they have a patent/IP licensing deal in place with
Microsoft.  Otherwise, they'll be soon dispensed with...


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 7:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [svg-developers] [ANN] MOBIFORM XAML Editor and XAML Clone
Released for XP


Philippe, xaml is a competing technology to SVG... this makes it relevant
to svg-developers, no? Especially a first-out-of-the-gate product like
theirs...

IMHO, It's a shame we dont have anybody making so much of a splash with
SVG...

Philippe Lhoste wrote:

 svgdeveloper wrote:
 MOBIFORM XAML Editor and XAML Clone have been released for Windows
 XP and Longhorn

 I wonder what this announcement is doing on the SVG mailing list...


I do have to agree about the bit regarding unsoliccited spam. But I
suspect you may have tested their product and given away an email address
at some time. I got a similar email at my email address on my client's
domain. And I used this email address to evaluate a previous Mobiform
product.

Give them the benefit of the doubt. They're small, they're keen, and they
believe immensely in their product.

Ronan

R





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[svg-developers] Re: Programming SVG using Java and ILOG JVeiws

2004-11-01 Thread Samuel Dagan


--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], sudheerpujar 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi All 
 
 I want to know how do i start. I would like to do Programming in SVG
 using Java and ILOG JViews [Saw an article
 Bringing SVG Power to Java Applications at
 http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/GUI/svg/
 ] 
 
 But I am not able to get the API for ILOG JView Component Suite. 
 
 Can any know about this ...? 
 
 Kindly Tell me
 
 Thanx in advance
 
 Sudheer





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[svg-developers] Re: [ANN] MOBIFORM XAML Editor and XAML Clone Released for XP

2004-11-01 Thread svgdeveloper




Your right Rick, there is some concern. But XAML is a publicly 
published API. For Microsoft to get upset about our XAML Clone would 
be shooting themselves in the foot. We're just trying to provide 
some XAML functionality until the Microsoft implementation arrives 
for XP. Even if they did want to 'dispense' with us, it would only 
affect the XAML clone and not our XAML authoring or SVG products.

For those who don't know. The entrire 'Shapes' and to a lesser 
extent 'Animation' sub sections of the XAML spec is essentially SVG. 
You can split hairs if you want about who wrote the spec, but it is 
basically the same syntax with different case

Ron @ Mobiform



--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rick Bullotta 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If I were them, however, I would be greatly concerned about 
intellectual
 property issues when releasing a product that, by 
definition, clones the
 XAML API's.  Hopefully they have a patent/IP licensing deal in 
place with
 Microsoft.  Otherwise, they'll be soon dispensed with...
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 7:59 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [svg-developers] [ANN] MOBIFORM XAML Editor and XAML 
Clone
 Released for XP
 
 
 Philippe, xaml is a competing technology to SVG... this makes it 
relevant
 to svg-developers, no? Especially a first-out-of-the-gate product 
like
 theirs...
 
 IMHO, It's a shame we dont have anybody making so much of a splash 
with
 SVG...
 
 Philippe Lhoste wrote:
 
  svgdeveloper wrote:
  MOBIFORM XAML Editor and XAML Clone have been released for 
Windows
  XP and Longhorn
 
  I wonder what this announcement is doing on the SVG mailing 
list...
 
 
 I do have to agree about the bit regarding unsoliccited spam. But I
 suspect you may have tested their product and given away an email 
address
 at some time. I got a similar email at my email address on my 
client's
 domain. And I used this email address to evaluate a previous 
Mobiform
 product.
 
 Give them the benefit of the doubt. They're small, they're keen, 
and they
 believe immensely in their product.
 
 Ronan
 
 R





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[svg-developers] Setting elements hidden / visible?

2004-11-01 Thread Patricia LaRue

Hi, all:
 
I need to make a plus (+) sign that when clicked the child nodes will expand and 
become visible.  Also make the plus (+) sign display as a minus (-) sign.
 
Is there a way to do this?  
 
Thank you,
Patricia


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Re: [svg-developers] Programming SVG using Java and ILOG JVeiws

2004-11-01 Thread Thomas DeWeese

sudheerpujar wrote:

 I want to know how do i start. I would like to do Programming in SVG
 using Java and ILOG JViews [Saw an article
 Bringing SVG Power to Java Applications at
 http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/GUI/svg/
 ] 
 
 But I am not able to get the API for ILOG JView Component Suite. 
 
 Can any know about this ...? 

ILOG JViews is a commercial product from ILOG:

http://www.ilog.com/products/jviews/

It provides lots of 'high level' interfaces for Graphs, maps, etc.

However to use SVG with Java you just need Batik:

 http://xml.apache.org/batik

It does not have the nice high level interfaces for graphs and
the like, but it does have a very nice rendering engine for SVG,
that you can access from Java (using the SVG DOM).



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RE: [svg-developers] Re: [ANN] MOBIFORM XAML Editor and XAML Clone Released for XP

2004-11-01 Thread Rick Bullotta

Good approach.  The long term value is certainly in the authoring/app
development tools. That's where I think you could definitely succeed.

 

 

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Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [svg-developers] Re: [ANN] MOBIFORM XAML Editor and XAML Clone
Released for XP

 

 

 

 

 

Your right Rick, there is some concern. But XAML is a publicly 

published API. For Microsoft to get upset about our XAML Clone would 

be shooting themselves in the foot. We're just trying to provide 

some XAML functionality until the Microsoft implementation arrives 

for XP. Even if they did want to 'dispense' with us, it would only 

affect the XAML clone and not our XAML authoring or SVG products.

 

For those who don't know. The entrire 'Shapes' and to a lesser 

extent 'Animation' sub sections of the XAML spec is essentially SVG. 

You can split hairs if you want about who wrote the spec, but it is 

basically the same syntax with different case

 

Ron @ Mobiform

 



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[svg-developers] Re[still help needed]: sending variables

2004-11-01 Thread Hauke ChristopH


--- Michel wrote:
 Why not use postURL ?

 --- Hauke wrote:
  it is not possible to send the variables attached to the URL, 
  because it is too much data!

as i said...

thanks for trying to help
cheers - Hauke





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[svg-developers] Role of XAML on SVG Group

2004-11-01 Thread Kurt Cagle

I've seen the issue about the relevancy or appropriateness of XAML 
within the SVG-Dev list a number of times, and would like to open up a 
discussion here, as it may influence may own writings as well.

XAML is undoubtedly a technology that competes across the board with 
SVG, HTML, XSL-FO, XUL, etc. I have three questions with regards to it, 
however.

1) Are people migrating from SVG to XAML (or building XAML parallel 
track developments) in their application development work?

2) Do people on this list feel that XAML is a worthwhile tool to be 
developing on, or do they fear that IP issues will end up pulling the 
rug out from under them?

3) Should XAML be covered within the SVG-Development list?

I know I'm opening up a can of worms here ... it's my intent, but I 
think that that the adoption of or avoidance of XAML has become a major 
issue with SVG developers and would like to get a sense for what people 
think.

-- Kurt Cagle
-- Publisher, Metaphorical Web Publishing



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[svg-developers] Re: Role of XAML on SVG Group

2004-11-01 Thread svgdeveloper



 1) Are people migrating from SVG to XAML (or building XAML 
parallel track developments) in their application development work?


We are seeing customers that purchased our SVG products coming back 
now for XAML, especially since the announcement that XAML will be 
supported on XP. I think SVG will prevail in mobile and documents, 
xaml in the other areas.

As far as covering XAML on the SVG developers list. I think XAML 
should use the Xaml news group, but as I mentioned at my talk at 
SchemaSoft the other week and here on this list, wrt the shapes sub 
section of XAML and SVG I don't really differentiate the two. Given 
that, healthy discussion about the pro's and cons of each should be 
showing up in both groups

Cheers,

Ron @ Mobiform




--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kurt Cagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've seen the issue about the relevancy or appropriateness of XAML 
 within the SVG-Dev list a number of times, and would like to open 
up a 
 discussion here, as it may influence may own writings as well.
 
 XAML is undoubtedly a technology that competes across the board 
with 
 SVG, HTML, XSL-FO, XUL, etc. I have three questions with regards 
to it, 
 however.
 
 1) Are people migrating from SVG to XAML (or building XAML 
parallel 
 track developments) in their application development work?
 
 2) Do people on this list feel that XAML is a worthwhile tool to 
be 
 developing on, or do they fear that IP issues will end up pulling 
the 
 rug out from under them?
 
 3) Should XAML be covered within the SVG-Development list?
 
 I know I'm opening up a can of worms here ... it's my intent, but 
I 
 think that that the adoption of or avoidance of XAML has become a 
major 
 issue with SVG developers and would like to get a sense for what 
people 
 think.
 
 -- Kurt Cagle
 -- Publisher, Metaphorical Web Publishing





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Re: [svg-developers] [ANN] MOBIFORM XAML Editor and XAML Clone Released for XP

2004-11-01 Thread Philippe Lhoste

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Philippe, xaml is a competing technology to SVG... this makes it relevant
 to svg-developers, no? Especially a first-out-of-the-gate product like
 theirs...

Of course, I wrote that half tongue-in-check...
Being nice and all, I was about to add something to tone down my 
comment, but it would have ruined my entrance =)

 IMHO, It's a shame we dont have anybody making so much of a splash with
 SVG...
 
 Philippe Lhoste wrote:

 svgdeveloper wrote:
 MOBIFORM XAML Editor and XAML Clone have been released for Windows
 XP and Longhorn

 I wonder what this announcement is doing on the SVG mailing list...

 
 I do have to agree about the bit regarding unsoliccited spam. But I
 suspect you may have tested their product and given away an email address
 at some time. I got a similar email at my email address on my client's
 domain. And I used this email address to evaluate a previous Mobiform
 product.

Well, I don't remember such a test, and even less checking a box 
specifying I want to receive annoucements, but then again, my memory may 
be bad...

 Give them the benefit of the doubt. They're small, they're keen, and they
 believe immensely in their product.

I did: It was close from a spam mail. _Close_ is the key word, some 
other people would have been less keen...

It was a kind of hot reaction, I have nothing against Mobiform and their 
business, and actually nothing against XAML.

Jan wrote: The future is XAML!. He is right, currently it is still in 
the future, ie. as stable as SVG 1.2 for example...

That's just another Microsoft technology, like it spits dozen a year, 
like VML for example. Would it meet success, would it be forgotten like 
VML? Nobody knows.

I devote much of my time to learn SVG and improve my skills, I don't 
have the time to spend on a vaporware, even if some make it more real.
Actually, I just don't have the time to spend there, like I don't want 
to learn .Net technology. I would rather spend my time to learn Java and 
improve my MFC skills, as they are currently much more asked for in job 
offers, at least in France... SVG is another story, a love story ;-)

I have nothing against these technologies: should I find a job requiring 
to know them, I would happily learn them, like I recently studied XSL(T) 
because I had an interview for a job requiring this knowledge.
But one have only one life, and some of this time is spend away from the 
computer...

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