[svg-developers] Re: Adobe please distribute SVG Viewer ...MASSIVELY !!!

2005-02-12 Thread Jan-Klaas Kollhof


 Who on this developers list *cares* about multipage and print
support for SVG?

I do, and I doubt I have to tell you what industry I work in ;)

Jan






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[svg-developers] textdata (simple)

2005-02-12 Thread Burkhard Stollenwerk

Hello,

a simple problem.
How could I get the text?
The code :
alert(pn(targetElement.parentNode.lastChild.lastChild));
deliver :
textDen Text den ich abfragen will/text
I ´ve tried it with targetElement.parentNode.lastChild.lastChild.data, but it 
´s wrong.
Could any tell me , how?

Burkhard Stollenwerk

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Re: [svg-developers] textdata (simple)

2005-02-12 Thread Burkhard Stollenwerk

I have it
targetElement.parentNode.lastChild.lastChild.lastChild

Burkhard
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 Hello,

 a simple problem.
 How could I get the text?
 The code :
 alert(pn(targetElement.parentNode.lastChild.lastChild));
 deliver :
 textDen Text den ich abfragen will/text
 I ´ve tried it with targetElement.parentNode.lastChild.lastChild.data, but
it ´s wrong.
 Could any tell me , how?

 Burkhard Stollenwerk

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[svg-developers] Getting Started creating Maps?

2005-02-12 Thread tbone58x


I would like to be able to create maps of the United States showing
some of my own custom attributes (how many customers per state for
example).

While I can create some elementary SVG output, I have zero experience
in generating maps.  Where does one start?  Is there a free source to
extract existing maps (I assume state boundaries are path definitions)
and convert them into SVG?  If so, where and what tools do I need to
convert from whatever base structure to SVG?  Are there any tutorials
or books on how to do this?  I eventually want to be able to get down
to the county level within a state, but I will take baby steps until I
am ready for the next level.

Any assistance on this endeavor will be greatly appreciated!





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[svg-developers] ASV Ctl Click and Drag

2005-02-12 Thread benamou

Sorry I am still struggling with this : 

I am trying to understand event firing 
when using ASV key command Ctl Click and Drad (to 
zoom on a region) 

Obviously both CurrentScale and CurrentTransform are 
altered BUT 

OnScroll event does not fires 
and OnZoom fires twice.

Does anyone have any idea on what these two 
event firing correspond to ??

Thanks 
JD


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Re: [svg-developers] Getting Started creating Maps?

2005-02-12 Thread Rerun

Do you use php, if so I have a script that exports straight from ESRI's 
shape to an svg file.  The shape file is one of the more common sources 
of vector mapping data.

tbone58x wrote:

I would like to be able to create maps of the United States showing
some of my own custom attributes (how many customers per state for
example).

While I can create some elementary SVG output, I have zero experience
in generating maps.  Where does one start?  Is there a free source to
extract existing maps (I assume state boundaries are path definitions)
and convert them into SVG?  If so, where and what tools do I need to
convert from whatever base structure to SVG?  Are there any tutorials
or books on how to do this?  I eventually want to be able to get down
to the county level within a state, but I will take baby steps until I
am ready for the next level.

Any assistance on this endeavor will be greatly appreciated!





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Re: [svg-developers] Adobe please distribute SVG Viewer ...MASSIVELY !!!

2005-02-12 Thread Philippe Lhoste

Ronan Oger wrote:
 The majority of SVG-related roles currently on offer worldwide in the places 
 I 
 know of are for Adobe. I don't think that it is appropriate to say that Adobe 
 have 'let go' just because you don't see any new ASV browser. Why, exactly, 
 would Adobe release a new browser now? Has anything changed in the SVG1.0 or 
 SVG1.1 recommendations, the ONLY existing recommendations? SVG1.2 is out for 
 comment, or just done with that.
[snip]
 Commercial vendors don't build software for fun alone. The eternal upgrade 
 cycle is limited to open-source 'look-at-me' developers (including myself) 
 and oops-we-did-something-stupid developers like Microsoft. If ASV ain't 
 broken, there's no reason to fix it. And since it's not out of date, there's 
 nothing to keep up to date with.

Ronan, I don't agree with you here.

Nothing has changed since SVG1.1, indeed. But ASV3 (which I see as 
reference for this version of SVG), while being an excellent and nearly 
complete viewer, has many bugs (I have found a number of them, and I am 
by no way an SVG expert pushing the language to its limits...), is 
missing a number of features (listed by Adobe itself...), mostly in the 
JS implementation, and has a well know weakness in handling inclusion 
external SVG files (external fonts, SVG with script or animation, SVG 
with bitmap images, etc.).

These bugs and limitations would justify a new release of ASV3, even 
more as probably some of them have been handled in ASV6 (which is aimed 
at SVG 1.2 and still beta).

Now, as you said, Commercial vendors don't build software for fun 
alone, so the question would be: Why Adobe should work to improve ASV3 
and still release it for free?
They do this for PDF, ie. with Adobe [Acrobat] Reader, but then they 
have tools doing PDF documents to sell.
Indeed, they have tools to make SVG documents as well (Illustrator), but:
1) Illustrator can live without SVG support, it has before.
2) It is not alone. Indeed, now there are many 3rd party tools to 
generate PDF, but Adobe can still lead the way by packing new features 
into PDF, while it can't do that with SVG.

Of course, I don't claim any insight of the politics of Adobe, it is 
just my point of view on the topic... :-P

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