[svg-developers] Re: question about intersections

2006-04-25 Thread Andreas Neumann
yes,

the SVGSVGElement has two methods:

SVGSVGElement.checkIntersection( element, rect )
and
SVGSVGElement.getIntersectionList( rect, referenceElement )

the first method returns a boolean, the second method returns a nodeList

see more at http://phrogz.net/ObjJob/search.asp?langID=1&q=intersect or in the 
SVG 
spec.

The problem is that currently (correct me if I am wrong) only Batik implements 
these 
methods.

For the other viewers that don't support these methods you would have to test 
it yourself 
using javascript. You would first test the boundingboxes and if it matches test 
the 
coordinates themselves.

For parsing the geometry I recommend using Kevin Lindseys path parser.

Andreas

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> Are there any svg javascript functions that can tell if a path and rect have
> intersected? I've done some small math with the boundingboxes but I don't
> think it's as accurate as I want.
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> google isn't saying anything.
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[svg-developers] Re: Getting the bounding box of a path

2006-04-25 Thread Andreas Neumann
no, you don't need to wrap it in the group.

var myPath = document.getElementById('myPathid');
var bbox = myPath.getBBox();
alert(bbox.x+","+bbox.y+","+bbox.width+","+bbox.height);

should work just fine.

Are you perhaps testing it in MozillaSVG? If yes, you have to be aware that 
there is a bug 
that prevents using bounding boxes in functions called "onload". You have to 
use a slight 
delay and then it works fine. window.setTimeout() is your friend in this case.

Hopefully, this bug is fixed some day.

Andreas


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> I'm trying to see if a path and rect intersect. I, cannot, however, get the
> bounding box of the path. I've attempting wrapping it in a g tag like this:
> 
>var px = document.getElementById(path);
>  var gNode = px.ownerDocument.createElementNS('
> http://www.w3.org/2000/svg','g');
> gNode.appendChild(px);
> var pathB = gNode.getBBox();
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Re: [svg-developers] Re: question about intersections

2006-04-25 Thread Jean-David Benamou
Andreas Neumann wrote:

>yes,
>
>the SVGSVGElement has two methods:
>
>SVGSVGElement.checkIntersection( element, rect )
>and
>SVGSVGElement.getIntersectionList( rect, referenceElement )
>
>the first method returns a boolean, the second method returns a nodeList
>
>  
>
A checkInclude (element, rect) would also be nice 

>see more at http://phrogz.net/ObjJob/search.asp?langID=1&q=intersect or in the 
>SVG 
>spec.
>
>The problem is that currently (correct me if I am wrong) only Batik implements 
>these 
>methods.
>
>  
>
Yes this is a problem. It is a very important feature for
developing Graphic editors

>For the other viewers that don't support these methods you would have to test 
>it yourself 
>using javascript. You would first test the boundingboxes and if it matches 
>test the 
>coordinates themselves.
>
>  
>

and for complex document that may prove really slow 

>
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[svg-developers] Re: question about intersections

2006-04-25 Thread jophof007
Hi,

We need intersecitons a lot of times to make our diagram editors and
we use the Kevin Linssey library for it.
See his library 2d.js (intersections of every possible SVG elements
including Path).

John Ophof
http://open-modeling.sourceforge.net

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> Andreas Neumann wrote:
> 
> >yes,
> >
> >the SVGSVGElement has two methods:
> >
> >SVGSVGElement.checkIntersection( element, rect )
> >and
> >SVGSVGElement.getIntersectionList( rect, referenceElement )
> >
> >the first method returns a boolean, the second method returns a
nodeList
> >
> >  
> >
> A checkInclude (element, rect) would also be nice 
> 
> >see more at
http://phrogz.net/ObjJob/search.asp?langID=1&q=intersect or in the SVG 
> >spec.
> >
> >The problem is that currently (correct me if I am wrong) only Batik
implements these 
> >methods.
> >
> >  
> >
> Yes this is a problem. It is a very important feature for
> developing Graphic editors
> 
> >For the other viewers that don't support these methods you would
have to test it yourself 
> >using javascript. You would first test the boundingboxes and if it
matches test the 
> >coordinates themselves.
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> and for complex document that may prove really slow 
> 
> >
> >
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[svg-developers] ASV on Intel Macs

2006-04-25 Thread Andreas Neumann
Hi, 
 
does anyone know if and how stable/fast the Adobe SVG viewer works 
on Intel Macs. 
 
I don't yet have an intel mac for tests. 
 
Thanks for any infos, 
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[svg-developers] Re: question about intersections

2006-04-25 Thread Andreas Neumann
> > 
> A checkInclude (element, rect) would also be nice  
 
yes, I can see even more methods in the same realm. Maybe something 
to add for a future version (SVG 1.2 full, 1.3 or 2.0) 
 
> Yes this is a problem. It is a very important feature for 
> developing Graphic editors 
 
yes definitely. Also for maps 
 
> and for complex document that may prove really slow  
 
yes - native implementations would be quicker. But so far one can 
use Kevin Lindseys classes as a workaround. 
 
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Re: [svg-developers] ASV on Intel Macs

2006-04-25 Thread Antoine Quint
Hi Andreas,

On 25 avr. 2006, at 14:26, Andreas Neumann wrote:

> does anyone know if and how stable/fast the Adobe SVG viewer works
> on Intel Macs.

The Adobe SVG Viewer plug-in works fine under Rosetta, and  
performance seems to be as good on my MacBook Pro as it was on my  
PowerBook G4. I guess the processing power delta takes care of the  
real-time code translation.

However, in order to have the Adobe SVG Viewer function, the host  
browser also needs to be running under Rosetta. If you use Safari as- 
is, SVG will not show as ASV cannot be loaded within an Intel- 
compiled application. If you want to have ASV working in Safari,  
you'd have to select Safari.app in the Finder, do "Get Info" and  
check the "Open using Rosetta" command.

Personally, I didn't bother changing Safari to run under Rosetta, so  
I just keep using ASV with Internet Explorer since it's a PPC-only  
application and thus always runs under Rosetta.

Of course, I really hope Adobe would actually compile an Intel or  
Universal Binary version of ASV for Intel Macs.

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[svg-developers] Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-04-25 Thread Francis Hemsher
The Internet Explorer 7 team is now taking input on how to support SVG 
in the final build of IE7, and also looking to ideas for IE8.

You can cast a vote and add commments directly to that team.
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Re: [svg-developers] Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-04-25 Thread Richard Gnyla
Nice find Francis

Voted already, lets hope they listen now..the more people vote the 
better, come on guys

Richard

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Re: [svg-developers] Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-04-25 Thread Hervé Lacondemine
comme on dit chez nous : a voté 
  désolé, je suis très nul pour écrire en anglais.

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Voted already, lets hope they listen now..the more people vote the 
better, come on guys

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Re: [svg-developers] ASV on Intel Macs

2006-04-25 Thread John Dowdell
Antoine Quint wrote:
> Of course, I really hope Adobe would actually compile an Intel or  
> Universal Binary version of ASV for Intel Macs.

I haven't heard any word yet on Adobe's future SVG work (I've been 
asking!), but do know the overall shape of Adobe code on the new 
Macintosh hardware.

The larger codebases require a port of the development environment 
before the code itself can be ported, and so is being done on the next 
full version rather than a short-term interim updater:
http://blogs.adobe.com/scottbyer/2006/03/macintosh_and_t.html

Some of the newer apps could be written in MacTel environments from the 
start:
http://labs.macromedia.com/technologies/lightroom/

Flash Player is available in a preview version (better than what Apple 
distributed), but also won't go final in the new hardware until the next 
full version:
http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/archives/2006/03/flash_player_8.cfm

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[svg-developers] New MS site: IE Add-Ons

2006-04-25 Thread Jeff Schiller
Not major news or anything, but the IEBlog just announced a new
website to keep track of all the Add-Ons (aka Add-Ins aka Plug-Ins)
for Internet Explorer:  http://www.ieaddons.com/

Not surprisingly, Adobe SVG Viewer is included in this site under
"Other Browsers" (or search for "SVG").





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[svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-04-25 Thread Jeff Schiller
Voted over a month ago on the "bug" and the suggested workaround
(bundle ASV with IE7).  The link after you've logged in is: 
https://connect.microsoft.com/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?SiteID=136&FeedbackID=54028

Seems there are some people leaving feedback to the contrary though
(mikes12345 states "Adobe SVG is a pig").  I'm curious about this - a
pig compared to what?  Is there any alternative?

Jeff

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[svg-developers] Different values on the Y-Axis between firefox 1.5 and IE 6.0 with A SVGViewer 3

2006-04-25 Thread aossi_2000
Hello!

I have this script:
http://lamp2.fh-stpoelten.ac.at/%7Etm021084/Fortschritt/GEO-System/svg_03/svg_projekt01.svg

I you view the page with the firefox 1.5 the y-values are okay, but if
you view the page with the IE the y-values aren't!

The js code is on the end:
http://lamp2.fh-stpoelten.ac.at/%7Etm021084/Fortschritt/GEO-System/svg_03/svg_projekt01.js

I hope you can help me to find the mistake!

Thanks

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[svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-04-25 Thread Francis Hemsher
Hi Jeff,
Yes, I saw, and second, your comment. I was going include some kind 
remark about the pig guy, but I held my tongue:)
Francis

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4028

Seems there are some people leaving feedback to the contrary though
(mikes12345 states "Adobe SVG is a pig").  I'm curious about this - a
pig compared to what?  Is there any alternative?

Jeff
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Re: [svg-developers] (unknown)

2006-04-25 Thread Ronan Oger
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As far as I am aware there are no svg-enabled players today on mobile devices 
that support svg applications. There are some primitive static svg 
implementations, but I have never seen an svg application that works on a 
mobile phone. 

Several mobile svg viewer vendors have told me that the latest versions of 
their softwares have an svg player that can handle ajax functionality 
however, from my limited perspective as an svg application developer, I can 
only say that so far this is vapour ware to me.

Maybe someone on this group can show an svg application that they have used on 
a mobile device?

also, beware of the mobile marketing term 'supports svg'. Generally 
speaking,mobile technology vendors operate in a closed ecosystem which 
shields them from the hard fact-checking that one gets with web technologies. 
When mobile devices claim to support svg, they generally mean today that the 
device can recieve an mms message with an embedded svg picture and render it. 

This is still very, very far from the internet's concept of supporting a 
technology.

So where does this leave you, a developer who wants to develop svg 
applications for a mobile device?

If you are satisfied with using svg like web pages without javascript or ajax, 
then you can build svg applications for mobiles with smil and no state 
keeping. For this, you simply need to identify mobile devices which support 
svgt1.0 or svgt1.1 content over http.

If you want to use svg as gui layer for interactive devices with state using 
ajax behaviour, then you need to find out which devices (will) support this 
and then you need to develop your application like any other ajax application 
as long as you conform with svg's xml paradigm (there's that word again...).

Good luck.

Ronan

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Ronan Oger
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RO IT Systems GmbH
...Building Web2.0 with SVG since 2001

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