[svg-developers] Re: external entities

2012-12-01 Thread Kenneth N
I appreciate the response, Robert. I get why to avoid DTDs, but I wasn't aware 
that external entities had to be defined in a DTD. The syntax for importing an 
external entity reference...

!ENTITY blue SYSTEM colors.xml

...suggests a plain-vanilla XML file, not a DTD. Am I wrong about this?

â€Ken Nellis

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Robert Longson longsonr@... wrote:

 This is not going to work, at least not in a browser. See 
 http://hsivonen.iki.fi/no-dtd/ for why it's a bad idea.
 
 Best regards
 
 Robert.
 
 --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Kenneth Nellis nellisks@ wrote:
 
  I've tried without success to get external entities to work. For example, 
  let's say I want to define blue in a shared file as #00247D and then, in 
  multiple, separate SVG files, reference the shared definition (as blue;).
  
  I get that the SVG document that references the color would pull in the 
  definition with something like the following in its DOCTYPE:
  
  !ENTITY blue SYSTEM colors.xml
  
  And blue would be defined in file colors.xml, but I haven't been able to 
  figure out how to define blue in file colors.xml. Suggestions would be 
  most appreciated!
  
  Ideally, I wouldn't need separate !ENTITY�. references in each SVG for 
  each color, but could simply refer (somehow) to colors.xml and pull in all 
  entity definitions in colors.xml.
  
  �Ken Nellis
 






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[svg-developers] Re: external entities

2012-11-18 Thread Kenneth N
Thanx for that, however I do have internal entities working just fine. Looking 
for help specifically with externally-defined ones.
â€Ken Nellis

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Marty Sullivan dark3251@... wrote:

 I can't tell you if this is possible as I've never tried to define external
 entities. However, to make the local entities in you svg, you would put
 them in the DOCTYPE like so:
 
 !DOCTYPE svg [
   !ENTITY blue FF
   !ENTITY green #00FF00
   !ENTITY red #FF
 ]
 
 and then refer to them as red; green; blue; in your document.
 On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Kenneth Nellis nellisks@... wrote:
 
  I've tried without success to get external entities to work. For example,
  let's say I want to define blue in a shared file as #00247D and then, in
  multiple, separate SVG files, reference the shared definition (as blue;).
 
  I get that the SVG document that references the color would pull in the
  definition with something like the following in its DOCTYPE:
 
  !ENTITY blue SYSTEM colors.xml
 
  And blue would be defined in file colors.xml, but I haven't been able to
  figure out how to define blue in file colors.xml. Suggestions would be
  most appreciated!
 
  Ideally, I wouldn't need separate !ENTITY�. references in each SVG for
  each color, but could simply refer (somehow) to colors.xml and pull in all
  entity definitions in colors.xml.
 
  �Ken Nellis
 
  
 
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[svg-developers] Re: Trying to animate two lines moving each other

2012-01-02 Thread Kenneth N
Same with the one I used, Mac/Safari 5.1.2. â€Ken

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Marty Sullivan dark3251@... wrote:

 Firefox/Opera/Chrome and probably other browsers will display all parse
 errors when you load the file.
 
 On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Pranav Lal pranav.lal@... wrote:
 
  **
 
 
  Hi Kenneth,
 
  Thanks for that. Is there a desktop IDE available for parsing SVG or XML to
  detect such errors?
 
  Pranav
 
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  Subject: [svg-developers] Re: Trying to animate two lines moving each other
 
  You didn't close your two animate tags resulting in parse errors.
  -Ken Nellis
 
  
 
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[svg-developers] Re: Roman numerals in SVG

2011-10-16 Thread Kenneth N
Works in Mac Safari 5.1 as well, but I don't believe that that is the proper 
way to present Roman Numerals. Just display them as upper case in a serif font.

I remember back in grade school our teacher would write out the upper-case 
letters of the Roman numerals and then draw the two lines across them all, but 
I think this was just a short cut to drawing serifs on all the letters. 
Frankly, I don't think even the serifs are necessary if context makes it clear 
that Roman numerals are being presented.

â€Ken




--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Cameron McCormack cam@... wrote:

 Hi David,
 
 On 15/10/11 1:34 PM, David Dailey wrote:
  I assumed I would just apply text-decoration=overline, underline or two
  instances of text-decoration, one with overline and one with underline to
  make Roman numerals, but this appears not to be the case.
 
  I need both the overline and the underline for what I'm doing. There's a
  Unicode range for these, but most fonts seem not to include the distinctive
  pair of lines.
 
 It should be just text-decoration=overline underline, according to CSS 
 3 Text: http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css3-text/#decoration
 
 That seems to work in Chrome, at least.  (Didn't test anything else.)







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[svg-developers] Re: national flags for use in db? perhaps ip-to-country.csv

2011-10-09 Thread Kenneth N
Maybe you already know that Wikipedia has SVG for many (all?) national flags?

Anyway, for my own pleasure, I hand-crafted SVG for about 140 of the easiest 
national flags, getting colors and geometry from Wikipedia and Flags of the 
World. Unfortunately, the two did not always agree and frequently precise 
information was not available from either.

http://homepage.mac.com/nellisks/svg/flags/

This seems relevant to the conversation, yet I sense I am overlooking something.

Since I'm talking about it, thought I'd add that I turned these flags into a 
flash-card-type presentation:

http://homepage.mac.com/nellisks/flashcards/nationalFlags.html

—Ken Nellis







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[svg-developers] Re: national flags for use in db? perhaps ip-to-country.csv

2011-10-09 Thread Kenneth N
Thanks! â€Ken

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jon Frost jonfrost@... wrote:

 The SVG looks really clean too - keep up the good work:
 http://homepage.mac.com/nellisks/svg/flags/flag.libya.svg
 
 
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[svg-developers] Re: How to define canvas?

2011-09-04 Thread Kenneth N
Thanx for the link! â€Ken

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Holger Jeromin mailgmane@... wrote:
 opera does not have an html5 parser in a production version.
 
 http://caniuse.com/svg-html5
 
 thats why it does not recognise the svg Element in html.
 embeded svg in xhtml is working in opera without problems.
 
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[svg-developers] Re: Introducing me and my SVG toy

2011-02-04 Thread Kenneth N
Cool! You can have it provide random blobs, or you can design your own, e.g.,
dog: http://blotbot.co/#73470750
—Ken Nellis

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jon Frost jonfrost@... wrote:

 Nice work.  These blots are great and as my art professor might have 
 said, titillating, but verging on the obscene.
 http://blotbot.co/#ee0197ca
 http://blotbot.co/#3521f9f9
 
 And then our psych profs would remind us of the purpose of the 
 rorschach.  Thus far the svg programming community has had a 
 disproportionate number of left-handed dual-brained good-humored and 
 generally good-hearted folks which has been great.  In 2011 I think svg 
 will hit the masses due to economics which might dilute our creativity - 
 but its an open standard after-all :-)
 Best.







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[svg-developers] Re: Safari 3.2.1 with ASV 3.0 won't View Source

2011-02-01 Thread Kenneth N
To close the loop on this, back in December 2008 I did write a Webkit Bugzilla 
report and just today I got the word that they fixed the bug, 25 months later!
https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14242
I haven't downloaded the lastest nightly build yet, so haven't confirmed it.
—Ken Nellis

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Kenneth Nellis nellisks@... wrote:

 Thanx to Andreas and Frank for their helpful responses and apologies  
 for my second post appealing for help on the same subject.
 
 Frank, I followed up on your idea that applying font-size directly as  
 text element attributes rather than in style attributes. This  
 worked to a point: I could control the text size in Safari down to  
 0.3pt (if I recall correctly), but this was still too big, but if I  
 made the size any smaller, Safari would ignore my specification and  
 generate the huge text.
 
 Andreas, your JavaScript solution is creative—and works in all  
 browsers I tested, even Mac/IE 5.2.3—but I think it points out that  
 the real solution is for the program that generates these SVG files  
 to specify the coordinates on a higher-resolution grid so that I can  
 specify font-size in a higher unit count. Do you think this is worthy  
 of a Webkit Bugzilla report?
 
 —Ken







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[svg-developers] Re: SVG Support in Opera 11

2011-01-14 Thread Kenneth N
TidBITS [1] recently announced that Opera 11 is available for the Mac, but when 
I go to my Mac version of Opera, 10.63, and do Check for Updates, I'm told that 
[I am] using the latest version of Opera. SMIL seems to work with that 
version, but if it doesn't work with 11.0, I'm hoping I'll hear that there's an 
11.x update when it's available.
[1] http://db.tidbits.com/article/11847
—Ken Nellis

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, jamesd jcdeering1@... wrote:

 SMIL animations don't work at all now in Opera, and I just put up a new site 
 lauding the web browser. Not cool!
 
 James
 jdsvg.com







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[svg-developers] Re: anti-aliasing fill

2010-12-29 Thread Kenneth N
Please see:
http://homepage.mac.com/nellisks/svg/flags/flag.haiti.svg
The problem exhibits itself with the following browsers, among possibly others:
• Mac/Opera 10.63
• Mac/Safari 4.1.3
• Mac/Firefox 3.6.12
• Mac/OmniWeb 5.10.3
Maybe it's a Mac thing? Haven't tried with non-Mac browsers.
—Ken Nellis

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Holger Jeromin mailgm...@... wrote:

 Kenneth Nellis schrieb am 28.12.2010 22:26:
  In SVG renderings, where, for example, two non-rotated rectangles of  
  solid but different colors abut, I see a single line of pixels at the  
  border that I attribute, perhaps erroneously, to anti-aliasing. I  
  wish to know what I can do to eliminate this artifact. I tried svg  
  color-rendering=optimizeSpeed, but this had no effect in my two  
  browsers (Mac/Safari 4.1.3 and Mac/Opera 10.63). Any ideas?
 
 Please provide an example.
 
 -- 
 regards
 Holger







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[svg-developers] Re: anti-aliasing fill

2010-12-28 Thread Kenneth N
Never mind! I kept looking after my post and found the answer:
svg shape-rendering=crispEdges
—Ken Nellis

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Kenneth Nellis nelli...@... wrote:

 In SVG renderings, where, for example, two non-rotated rectangles of  
 solid but different colors abut, I see a single line of pixels at the  
 border that I attribute, perhaps erroneously, to anti-aliasing. I  
 wish to know what I can do to eliminate this artifact. I tried svg  
 color-rendering=optimizeSpeed, but this had no effect in my two  
 browsers (Mac/Safari 4.1.3 and Mac/Opera 10.63). Any ideas?
 —Ken Nellis







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[svg-developers] Re: anti-aliasing fill

2010-12-28 Thread Kenneth N
My excitement was short-lived. While I want to disable anti-aliasing for 
vertical and horizontal borders, anti-aliasing makes diagonal or curved borders 
much better. So, I am still looking for ideas for dealing with this.
—Ken Nellis

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Kenneth N nelli...@... wrote:

 Never mind! I kept looking after my post and found the answer:
 svg shape-rendering=crispEdges
 —Ken Nellis
 
 --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Kenneth Nellis nellisks@ wrote:
 
  In SVG renderings, where, for example, two non-rotated rectangles of  
  solid but different colors abut, I see a single line of pixels at the  
  border that I attribute, perhaps erroneously, to anti-aliasing. I  
  wish to know what I can do to eliminate this artifact. I tried svg  
  color-rendering=optimizeSpeed, but this had no effect in my two  
  browsers (Mac/Safari 4.1.3 and Mac/Opera 10.63). Any ideas?
  —Ken Nellis
 







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[svg-developers] Re: Unable to see axes lines

2010-12-26 Thread Kenneth N
Mac/Safari 4.1.3, Mac/Opera 10.63, and Mac/Firefox 3.6.12 all render the axes. 
BTW, if you'd send SVG code that is stripped down to the minimum necessary to 
demonstrate the problem, you'd probably get more folks interested enough to 
consider responding.
—Ken Nellis

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Pranav Lal pranav@... wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I am unable to see the lines I have drawn as the axes in the below graph.
 What am  I missing?
 
 Pranav
 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
 !DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC  -//W3C//DTD SVG 1.0//EN
 http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/DTD/svg10.dtd;
 svg contentScriptType=text/ecmascript
 xmlns:xlink=http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink;
 zoomAndPan=magnify
  xmlns:iveo=http://viewplus.com/iveo;
 contentStyleType=text/css
 xmlns:daisy=http://www.daisy.org/z3986/2005/;
 viewBox=0 0 803 510
 preserveAspectRatio=xMidYMid meet
 xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg;  version=1.0
  titleSheet1 Chart 2/title
  desctest graph with line axes/desc
 g visibility=visible pointer-events=visible rect fill=none
 stroke=white width=273 height=160 id=plot.301948  x=11 y=6/
 !axes start here
 line x1=0 y1=0 y2=0 x2=59.8348818897638
 style=stroke:rgb(134,134,134);; stroke-width 5; /
 line x1=0 x2=0 y1=0 y2=106.25 style=stroke:rgb(134,134,134);
 stroke-width 5; /
 !axes end here
 polyline fill=none id=Demand style=stroke:rgb(74,126,187);
 stroke-width 1; points=322,154 310,148 297.25,142 285.25,136 273.25,129.25
 259.75,123.25 247.75,117.25 235.75,111.25 223,105.25 211,99.25 199,93.25
 187,87.25 174.25,80.5 162.25,74.5 150.25,68.5 136.75,62.5 124.75,56.5
 112.75,50.5 100.75,44.5 88,38.5 /
 rect fill=none height=2 width=1 style=stroke:rgb(0,0,0);;
 stroke-width 1; x=322 y=154 title1/1/2001, 1/title/rect
 rect fill=none height=2 width=1 style=stroke:rgb(0,0,0);;
 stroke-width 1; x=310 y=148 title1/2/2001, 2/title/rect
 rect fill=none height=2 width=1 style=stroke:rgb(0,0,0);;
 stroke-width 1; x=297.25 y=142 title1/3/2001, 3/title/rect
 rect fill=none height=2 width=1 style=stroke:rgb(0,0,0);;
 stroke-width 1; x=285.25 y=136 title1/4/2001, 4/title/rect
 rect fill=none height=2 width=1 style=stroke:rgb(0,0,0);;
 stroke-width 1; x=273.25 y=129.25 title1/5/2001, 5/title/rect
 rect fill=none height=2 width=1 style=stroke:rgb(0,0,0);;
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[svg-developers] Re: styling use with CSS

2010-12-21 Thread Kenneth N
FWIW, it also doesn't work in Safari or OmniWeb, but it does work in Camino.
An elegant use of styles. I hope it's valid!
—Ken Nellis

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, t...@... t...@... wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I have some Christmas gifts for you!  That is, if you use Firefox:
 
 http://wwwpub.zih.tu-dresden.de/~s9783698/svg/css-presents.svg
 
 As code:
 
 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8 standalone=no?
 svg
xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg;
version=1.1
xmlns:xlink=http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink;
 
   defs
 style
   .redbox .boxtop {fill:#e33}
   .redbox .boxside {fill:#a11}
   .redbox .boxfront {fill:#c22}
   .redbox .ribbontop {fill:#3e3}
   .redbox .ribbonside {fill:#1a1}
   .redbox .ribbonfront {fill:#2c2}
 
   .bluebox .boxtop {fill:#33e}
   .bluebox .boxside {fill:#11a}
   .bluebox .boxfront {fill:#22c}
   .bluebox .ribbontop {fill:#e33}
   .bluebox .ribbonside {fill:#a11}
   .bluebox .ribbonfront {fill:#a22}
 
   .greenbox .boxtop {fill:#3e3}
   .greenbox .boxside {fill:#1a1}
   .greenbox .boxfront {fill:#2c2}
   .greenbox .ribbontop {fill:#33e}
   .greenbox .ribbonside {fill:#11a}
   .greenbox .ribbonfront {fill:#22c}
 /style
 g id=giftbox 
   path class=boxtop d=m0,0 36,12 48,-12 -36,-12z/
   path class=boxfront d=m36,12 48,-12 0,48 -48,12z/
   path class=boxside d=m0,0 36,12 0,48 -36,-12z/
   path class=ribbonside d=m15,5 6,2 0,48 -6,-2z/
   path class=ribbontop d=m15,5 48,-12 6,2 -48,12z/
   path class=ribbontop d=m20,-5 36,12 8,-2 -36,-12z/
   path class=ribbonfront d=m56,7 0,48 8,-2 0,-48z/
 /g
   /defs
   use xlink:href=#giftbox class=redbox x=30 y=20/
   use xlink:href=#giftbox class=greenbox x=70 y=50/
   use xlink:href=#giftbox class=bluebox x=15 y=75/
 /svg
 
 This works perfectly in Firefox, but not in Opera, Chrome, Batik, Inkscape or 
 librsvg.  Is this a bug or a feature in Firefox?
 
 Season's greetings
 Thomas W.







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[svg-developers] Re: overflow=hidden

2010-12-20 Thread Kenneth N
Perfect! It makes the overflow=hidden attribute superfluous. Thanx!
—Ken Nellis

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Erik Dahlstrom e...@... wrote:

 On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 10:17:18 +0100, t...@... t...@... wrote:
 
  Here's what the specs say:
 
  http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/masking.html#AutoClipAtViewportNotViewBox
 
  but what does it mean?  At least this works in Opera:
 
  ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8 ?
  svg xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg;
  xmlns:xlink=http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink;
  version=1.1
  clip=rect(0,300,300,0)
 
  titleoverflow test/title
  rect width=300 height=300 /
  line stroke-width=10 x2=300 y2=300 stroke=red /
  /svg
 
  But that's probably not what you want, and it doesn't work in Firefox,  
  Batik, Chrome, Inkscape or with librsvg.
 
 The 'clip' property changed meaning from CSS2 to CSS2.1, that's one  
 reason, another is that it wasn't implemented the way SVG 1.1 specified it  
 for image and nested svg elements in some browsers (and not at all in  
 others). The plan ahead is to align with CSS2.1, and I would recommend  
 that you use 'clip-path' instead for the time being since that has better  
 cross-browser support.
 
 The overflow property clips the child content to the established viewport,  
 see this example[1]. Note however that viewBox isn't the same as viewport,  
 if the aspect ratio is different you might see some overflow (since the  
 viewBox is positioned in the viewport using preserveAspectRatio, which  
 defaults to xMidYMid meet, essentially center the content inside the  
 viewport). The rule-of-thumb is that the viewport for an svg element is  
 defined by the width and height attributes, and the viewBox naturally by  
 the viewBox attribute.
 
 Anyway, this is what you want I guess:
 
 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8 ?
 svg xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg;
  xmlns:xlink=http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink;
  version=1.1
  viewBox=0 0 10 10
  overflow=hidden
  clip-path=url(#clip)
 
 titleoverflow test/title
 defs
 clipPath id=clip
rect width=100% height=100%/
 /clipPath
 /defs
 rect width=100% height=100% /
 line x2=100% y2=100% stroke=red /
 /svg
 
 Cheers
 /Erik
 
 [1] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/masking-path-03-b.svg
 
 -- 
 Erik Dahlstrom, Core Technology Developer, Opera Software
 Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group
 Personal blog: http://my.opera.com/macdev_ed







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[svg-developers] Re: overflow=hidden

2010-12-19 Thread Kenneth N
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, t...@... t...@... wrote:

 Here's what the specs say:

 http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/masking.html#AutoClipAtViewportNotViewBox

 but what does it mean?
Right, that's where I got the idea that overflow=hidden would work. I
didn't understand those specs either. :-/
 At least this works in Opera:

 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8 ?
 svg xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg;
 xmlns:xlink=http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink;
 version=1.1
 clip=rect(0,300,300,0)
 
 titleoverflow test/title
 rect width=300 height=300 /
 line stroke-width=10 x2=300 y2=300 stroke=red /
 /svg

 But that's probably not what you want, and it doesn't work in Firefox,
Batik, Chrome, Inkscape or with librsvg.
Thank you for that; I appreciate you taking the time to respond,
however, for me running Opera 10.63 over Mac OS X 10.4.11, it did not
work. I still see the corners of the line sticking out past the clipping
rectangle. Here's a PNG image showing how Opera renders it for
me:http://tinyurl.com/opera-overflow http://tinyurl.com/opera-overflow
For completeness here's the (same as yours) SVG that rendered
it:http://tinyurl.com/overflowA http://tinyurl.com/overflowA
While Mac/Safari 4.1.3 renders the same as Opera for your SVG version,
Safari lets me resize my window to that of the graphic, while Opera
incongruously clips it severely.
commentaryAs an occasional tinkerer with SVG, I've been very impressed
with some of the work I've seen produced by members of this list, so I
am flummoxed at the difficulty of accomplishing seemingly trivial
tasks./commentary
—Ken Nellis

 --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Kenneth Nellis nellisks@ wrote:
 
  I'd like to draw a diagonal line from corner to corner and not have
  the width of the line extend outside the viewBox boundaries at the
  two corners, however they do despite my attempt to thwart it with
  overflow=hidden. What am I doing wrong?
  Here's an example that demonstrates the problem: http://tinyurl.com/
  overflow-svg
  —Ken Nellis
 
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[svg-developers] Re: Rotating Images

2010-12-13 Thread Kenneth N
Perhaps you can adapt the following to your needs. It rotates an image about 
its center point:

?xml version=1.0?
svg xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; 
xmlns:xlink=http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink; 
g transform=translate(400 328) 
image xlink:href=ken3d.jpg width=400 height=328 x=-200 y=-164 
animateTransform
attributeName=transform
attributeType=XML
type=rotate
from=0 to=360
begin=0s dur=12s
repeatCount=indefinite
/
/image
/g
/svg

—Ken Nellis

--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, PETER nos...@... wrote:

 I have an image
 
 image xlink:href=working.png x=740 y=40 width=40 height=40/
 
 I want to rotate it around its centre (x=760 y=60) indefinately
 
 I have tried Transform Rotate and animateTransform but cannot get 
 rotation around the centre of the image !!
 
 Help please
 
 Pete (Northolt UK)







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[svg-developers] Re: click coordinates not of object

2010-11-20 Thread Kenneth N
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@... wrote:

 On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Kenneth Nellis nelli...@...wrote:
 
  I have this SVG file* that displays a centered grid, dimensions
  10x10, that scales to the size of the web page. I've attached an
  onclick handler to the grid that displays the x,y coordinates of
  the click point. I want the coordinates to be of the grid's
  coordinate system, but I'm getting the coordinates of the web page.
  I'm hoping someone can advise how to fix this.
  揖en Nellis
  *  http://homepage.mac.com/nellisks/yahoo/groups/svg-developers/
  gridClick.svg
 
 
 I am using Firefox -
 x = evt.offsetX; is not not giving correct result,
 Error - x is undefined when it is used later

Yes, I see. Also doesn't work in Opera. Works in Safari, however, where I've 
been developing. My JavaScript source* seems to indicate offsetX/Y as valid 
properties. Perhaps I'm not referencing them correctly? (More in my next reply, 
coming right up.)
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[svg-developers] Re: click coordinates not of object

2010-11-20 Thread Kenneth N
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Holger Jeromin mailgm...@... wrote:

 Narendra Sisodiya schrieb am 20.11.2010 05:36:
  On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Kenneth Nellis nelli...@...wrote:
  I have this SVG file* that displays a centered grid, dimensions
  10x10, that scales to the size of the web page. I've attached an
  onclick handler to the grid that displays the x,y coordinates of
  the click point. I want the coordinates to be of the grid's
  coordinate system, but I'm getting the coordinates of the web page.
  I'm hoping someone can advise how to fix this.
  揖en Nellis
  *  http://homepage.mac.com/nellisks/yahoo/groups/svg-developers/
  gridClick.svg
  I am using Firefox -
  x = evt.offsetX; is not not giving correct result,
  Error - x is undefined when it is used later
 
 offsetX is only available in opera, safari, chrome.
 layerX is available in safari, chrome, firefox
 
 clientx is available in all: opera, chrome, safari, firefox and adobe
 svg viewer
 
 pageX is available in all browsers (no adobe plugin) and is independant
 from the scrolling.
 
 
 But the problem is still that the offset of
 document.getElementById(grid) compared to the page is apparently not
 available. This is really suprising to me. I have not found a solution.
 
 -- 
 best regards
 Holger

Thank you for your response. Another difference I just noticed is that Safari 
responds to the onclick handler if anywhere in the viewBox is clicked, whereas 
Firefox and Opera require you to click right on one of the lines, so this is a 
separate problem to fix. And Opera's responses using offsetX/Y appear to be 
complete garbage!

Anyway, I'm still open to ideas and offer links to the original version 
(offsetXY) as well as links to versions using clientXY and pageXY.

http://tinyurl.com/offsetXY-svg
http://tinyurl.com/clientXY-svg
http://tinyurl.com/PageXY-svg

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[svg-developers] Re: click coordinates not of object

2010-11-20 Thread Kenneth N
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Kenneth N nelli...@... wrote:
 And Opera's responses using offsetX/Y appear to be complete garbage!

Sorry for the spam, but I have to correct the previous statement; further 
analysis reveals a pattern, just different from Safari and Firefox, which both 
report screen coordinates. Opera, however, reports coordinates relative to the 
clicked line, which is closer to what I want, but still is not scaled to range 
[0,10] as I am looking for. And since Opera returns different coordinates from 
Safari and Firefox, I fear the only solution, if there is one, would require a 
browser-specific solution. :-(
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