Re: [svg-developers] Re: Re: SVG 1.2 feedback: SVGTimer Inteface - does this add anything?
Ronan Oger wrote: > On Thursday 04 November 2004 16.24, Robin Berjon wrote: >>Ronan: I don't see what you find wrong with SVGTimer, it's just a >>standardisation of ad hoc methods that already exist, minus their flaws >>and plus coherent design -- nothing special, and almost no extra work >>for implementers. > > I find nothing *wrong* with SVGTinmer. I simply question whether this can be > done fast enough alerady, and whether it is necessary to add into the > specification requirements that are already met outside. Sometimes I wonder > if people ask for particular requirements because they/we are too lazy to > find a way with the existing tools. Well I think the WG isn't generally lazy in "finding a way with existing tools". What's already there simply doesn't work. -- Robin Berjon Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Re: SVG 1.2 feedback: SVGTimer Inteface - does this add anything?
Rick Bullotta wrote: > The other thing I'd love to see in both SVG and ECMAScript is much richer > XML handling (Xpath support, for example)... SVG 1.2 requires DOM 3 XPath support. -- Robin Berjon Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] Re: Re: SVG 1.2 feedback: SVGTimer Inteface - does this add anything?
Personally, I like the "separation of church and state" that having a timer interface in SVG would provide, eliminating yet another container dependency. The other thing I'd love to see in both SVG and ECMAScript is much richer XML handling (Xpath support, for example)... Rick Bullotta CTO Lighthammer Software (http://www.lighthammer.com) == The speed issue certainly makes sense and may be a good enough reason to implement SVGTimer given that it will be needed quite a bit. Ronan -- Ronan Oger http://www.roasp.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Re: SVG 1.2 feedback: SVGTimer Inteface - does this add anything?
On Thursday 04 November 2004 16.24, Robin Berjon wrote: >Ronan: I don't see what you find wrong with SVGTimer, it's just a >standardisation of ad hoc methods that already exist, minus their flaws >and plus coherent design -- nothing special, and almost no extra work >for implementers. I find nothing *wrong* with SVGTinmer. I simply question whether this can be done fast enough alerady, and whether it is necessary to add into the specification requirements that are already met outside. Sometimes I wonder if people ask for particular requirements because they/we are too lazy to find a way with the existing tools. The speed issue certainly makes sense and may be a good enough reason to implement SVGTimer given that it will be needed quite a bit. Ronan -- Ronan Oger http://www.roasp.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Re: SVG 1.2 feedback: SVGTimer Inteface - does this add anything?
Jim Ley wrote: > "Ronan Oger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >>Right. But id does have timekeeping capabilities, so building keying and >>timing capability from these is simply a matter of someone building a base >>class. > > No, since that would require more than the single thread available to you of > ecmascript. Not necessarily, POE that Ronan was mentionning can more or less emulate that sort of behaviour on Perls built without threading. But it's by far not the best option. Ronan: I don't see what you find wrong with SVGTimer, it's just a standardisation of ad hoc methods that already exist, minus their flaws and plus coherent design -- nothing special, and almost no extra work for implementers. -- Robin Berjon Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Re: SVG 1.2 feedback: SVGTimer Inteface - does this add anything?
"Ronan Oger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Tuesday 02 November 2004 16.41, Jim Ley wrote: >>ECMAScript has no timing abilities whatsoever, they have to be provided by >>the host language, hence the need for the interface. > > Right. But id does have timekeeping capabilities, so building keying and > timing capability from these is simply a matter of someone building a base > class. No, since that would require more than the single thread available to you of ecmascript. Jim. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/1U_rlB/TM ~-> - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click "edit my membership" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
