Re: [SWCollect] Yipe.
Jim Leonard wrote: C.E. Forman wrote: Well, I just screwed up big-time. *Sigh*... I feel horrible about this. Anybody got any reassuring words? Yes: Don't sweat it for even one second. Will has some pretty deep issues that he won't correct any time soon because, frankly, he isn't aware of them *and* he's stubborn. I swear, the dude has a neurological disorder. Weren't you the one that said that we _all_ have a neurological disorder or we wouldn't be collectors, etcetc? ;) [snip] *AND*, since this mailing list is archived at a publicly-accessible URL, he may see this message someday, and will probably accuse me of talking behind his back. Well, I don't consider this talking behind his back because, quite frankly, this message isn't addressed to him. Just a correction here, Jim: you are talking about someone, and he doesn't know about it. So yes, it can be considered talking behind his back I never thought I would meet a child in the world of software collecting. Guess I was wrong. All hobbies have more and less mature representatives, I guess... :( (At 25, I'm one of the less mature ones, as you've noticed! ;)) Pedro R. Quaresma [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] All your base are belong to us http://www.salvador-caetano.pt http://www.globalshop.pt -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Ludicrous prices
Jim Leonard wrote: Caught this website: http://www.badben.com/ It's bad enough that it's viewable under Internet Explorer only, but $200 for a Black Cauldron? The CD version of Willy Beamish for $149? Wing Commander hintbook for $80?? (sealed, but still...) You think that's bad? The _extremely rare_ Ultima VIII for sale at $129? And hintbooks at $100+? Here's the kicker: Wizard and the Princess by Sierra. Untested, for unknown computer system. $199.99 It's the diskette only! For unknown computer system!! Hey, UCS is very RARE!!! Only 30 were sold in the US! ;) Am I overreacting, or do people (other than Will D. ;-) actually pay these prices? I would *never* pay $249 for an original KQ1, unless it was personally signed by Robert Williams or Jeff Stephenson. I don't think so... well, on eBay sometimes things get out of hand, but I'm not seeing that guy selling many games in a nearby future. PS: Never mind, I think I figured it out: He's uneducated; he listed Fountain of Dreams as very rare Wasteland sequel. It's not rare at all, nor is it the true sequel. It isn't the true sequel, but it is fairly uncommon, and it was considered a sequel (until people realised that Tim Cain wasn't even part of the project! ;) Wasteland and Fountain of Dreams, IIRC, were for many years the only two post-nuke RPGs in the market Pedro R. Quaresma [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] All your base are belong to us http://www.salvador-caetano.pt http://www.globalshop.pt -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Infocom games' boxes
Pedro Quaresma wrote: (P.S. I think I just visited the website where you saw them. B-) I had mentioned that site to you, hadn't I? It was (before I bought all the nice titles) a nice site, I picked up those three Infocoms, plus Moebius Windwalker and Vixen (it had the poster, hurrah! ;)) all for £20 including shipping. Okay, cough it up: What's the URL of the site? -- http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensive gaming database project. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Yipe.
Pedro Quaresma wrote: *and* he's stubborn. I swear, the dude has a neurological disorder. Weren't you the one that said that we _all_ have a neurological disorder or we wouldn't be collectors, etcetc? ;) His isn't along the same lines as ours. :-) We're anal-retentive and compulsive, but he has some sort of sociological pathology thing going on. Just a correction here, Jim: you are talking about someone, and he doesn't know about it. So yes, it can be considered talking behind his back Okay, I'll rephrase: I don't give a crap if he sees this. -- http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensive gaming database project. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Ludicrous prices
Infocom's Trinity is... *sort-of* post-apocalyptic... How can I say this without giving away the spectacular ending...? But not really, I guess, in the truest sense of the term. - Original Message - From: Hugh Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 12:07 PM Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Ludicrous prices Let's not forget some of the best car-oriented RPGs: Autoduel Roadwar 2000 Roadwar Europa They are all genre benders (Autoduel has some Arcade elements, the Roadwars have strategy elements), but they are definitely classic futuristic RPGs. I don't know if they fit into the particular category as you see it. Hugh -Original Message- From: Pedro Quaresma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 11:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Ludicrous prices Jim Leonard wrote: Pedro Quaresma wrote: Wasteland and Fountain of Dreams, IIRC, were for many years the only two post-nuke RPGs in the market I would LOVE to know of more; I created the Post-Apocolyptic genre on MobyGames specifically for games like this. For example, wasn't Twilight 2000 sort-of a PA RPG? (can't remember the game well). I'm not sure, but you may be right. It wasn't quite sci-fi, in the least. I have a Mindscape managerial strategy game from 1988 (can't remember the title) that was a PA game as well... who can remember more of historical and/or gameplay significance? I can try to help you with the RPGs at least... I've never played much of 2400AD, but I think it's sci-fi, not post-nuke... Hired Guns, maybe? I'm 99% sure that Superhero League of Hoboken is a mix of post-nuke with super-heroes And you have Fallout 1 and Fallout 2, that's for sure. Pedro R. Quaresma [EMAIL PROTECTED] / [EMAIL PROTECTED] All your base are belong to us http://www.salvador-caetano.pt http://www.globalshop.pt -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Infocom games' boxes
Pedro Quaresma wrote: For example, I can tell you guys that there are several Cyber Exchanges and Software ReRuns around where I live (Naperville, IL, USA). I tell you this because I've already picked them clean for my own purposes. You didn't pick the RPGs, did you? :) Nope. I don't collect RPGs. In fact, I think I collect everything that you guys *don't* collect. I'm helping by sharing, and I'm not worried about missing a deal because I've already been there. I'm rarely worried about missing a deal even if I haven't been there yet... unless there's an Akalabeth or Ultima CPC listed or something... 0:) I'll drop a bomb, here: I don't know what you're talking about when you say Ultima CPC. Could you explain? Here's another bomb: I have never, ever liked any Ultimas. I find them contrived and scatterbrain; I feel the storylines are manufactured and trite. And most of all, the name Lord British really rubs me the wrong way -- it rubbed me the wrong way when I first saw it on the bootup screen of Ultima 2 and it still rubs me the wrong way today. It's a dorky, grammatically-incorrect handle. When I hear the name Lord British, I picture a pimply 14-yr-old trying to think of a cool handle to choose when signing onto a BBS door. I am the only software collector in the world who doesn't like Ultima. I love Origin, just not Ultima. If there is any one thing that any one Ultima game does better than *all* other RPGs, I'd sure like to know. (If you want to reply :-) please do so privately as I don't think everyone on the list wants to hear a flamewar over Ultima.) -- http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensive gaming database project. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Infocom games' boxes
Jim, You are not alone -- I too love Origin but cannot stand Ultima! I'll take the Might Magic line over Ultima any day. As for the British moniker, Garriot himself said he chose the handle because it sounded cool. And he was a teenager at the time. Jim Leonard wrote: Pedro Quaresma wrote: For example, I can tell you guys that there are several Cyber Exchanges and Software ReRuns around where I live (Naperville, IL, USA). I tell you this because I've already picked them clean for my own purposes. You didn't pick the RPGs, did you? :) Nope. I don't collect RPGs. In fact, I think I collect everything that you guys *don't* collect. I'm helping by sharing, and I'm not worried about missing a deal because I've already been there. I'm rarely worried about missing a deal even if I haven't been there yet... unless there's an Akalabeth or Ultima CPC listed or something... 0:) I'll drop a bomb, here: I don't know what you're talking about when you say Ultima CPC. Could you explain? Here's another bomb: I have never, ever liked any Ultimas. I find them contrived and scatterbrain; I feel the storylines are manufactured and trite. And most of all, the name Lord British really rubs me the wrong way -- it rubbed me the wrong way when I first saw it on the bootup screen of Ultima 2 and it still rubs me the wrong way today. It's a dorky, grammatically-incorrect handle. When I hear the name Lord British, I picture a pimply 14-yr-old trying to think of a cool handle to choose when signing onto a BBS door. I am the only software collector in the world who doesn't like Ultima. I love Origin, just not Ultima. If there is any one thing that any one Ultima game does better than *all* other RPGs, I'd sure like to know. (If you want to reply :-) please do so privately as I don't think everyone on the list wants to hear a flamewar over Ultima.) -- http://www.MobyGames.com/ The world's most comprehensive gaming database project. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Infocom games' boxes
Let's put it this way: I have no problem sharing my sources with you guys *after* I've picked them clean. ;-) Which is what I was expecting Pedro to do. Which is what I expect we all do. For example, I can tell you guys that there are several Cyber Exchanges and Software ReRuns around where I live (Naperville, IL, USA). I tell you this because I've already picked them clean for my own purposes. I'm helping by sharing, and I'm not worried about missing a deal because I've already been there. But what about sources that get new stuff in regularly? Do you really want to share your best hunting grounds with a bunch of other collectors? B-) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Latest eBay craze
Hi Stephen, how's it going? Hey could you upload the IBM software of Gold Rush to me, mine is Apple ][ but I want to try the IBM version. Thanks, Tom -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Ludicrous prices
On Sun, 22 Jul 2001, Jim Leonard wrote: It's bad enough that it's viewable under Internet Explorer only, but $200 for a Black Cauldron? The CD version of Willy Beamish for $149? Wing Commander hintbook for $80?? (sealed, but still...) $149 for CD Willy Beamish isn't *that* far out of line ... then again, the reports I've heard say that the additional CD perks actually make the game worse. (If you're listing fixed prices, you can charge higher than eBay, especialy if you think you can snag a clueless newbie, but ... eesh.) Concerning Willy Beamish, does anyone have the Willy Beamish wristwatch? (Not a prop, you had to order this separately.) -- Stephen -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Infocom games' boxes
I have to add a small bit of trivia here... Lord British, as well as Iolo and many other names in the Ultima games were all characters that Garriott and his friends played in their DD campaign. I learned this not from a book, but back in my freshman year of college, I worked at the computer lab of North Seattle Community College and one of my coworkers, a lady from Texas (want to say her name was Jennifer, but may be wrong), told me that an old friend of hers used to make games (this was while I was showing her my Ami-Crypt site, as part of teaching her HTML) and that she couldn't remember the name of the games, something like Ultimate... and when I asked (incredulously) whether she meant Ultima, she said Yeah, that's it!. She was one of Garriots old DD pals... this was about 2 months before PC Gamer had Garriot on it's cover (I believe for the preview of Ultima Online and talk of Ultima 9) and when I showed her, she flipped out. Sorry, really not of consequence, but a fun little event, that I thought you all might find interesting. :) Trantor http://www.trantornator.com I'm writing here to make a correction. If I remember my Ultima history correctly (I didn't look it up to verify) Richard Garriott was given the name Lord British by his schoolmates. It was a sarcastic jibe at the way he spoke (very proper English). Hugh -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Ludicrous prices
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Pedro Quaresma wrote: [snip] PS: Never mind, I think I figured it out: He's uneducated; he listed Fountain of Dreams as very rare Wasteland sequel. It's not rare at all, nor is it the true sequel. It isn't the true sequel, but it is fairly uncommon, and it was considered a sequel (until people realised that Tim Cain wasn't even part of the project! ;) Wasteland and Fountain of Dreams, IIRC, were for many years the only two post-nuke RPGs in the market Well, heh, Fountain of Dreams was generally considered to be better than Scavengers of the Mutant World. OTOH, I'd like a copy of Scavengers, since, well, it's an RPG and I don't have a copy. (That's another for your list. Superhero League of Hoboken isn't a post-nuke scenario, BTW; it's more of a post-acute-global-warming-and-other-assorted-catastrophes scenario.) I think there were one or two other old post-nuke RPG's as well, but they were all comparable in quality to Fountain of Dreams from what I can remember. -- Stephen -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Latest eBay craze
You can download most common oldies from www.freeoldies.com, actually. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Stephen, how's it going? Hey could you upload the IBM software of Gold Rush to me, mine is Apple ][ but I want to try the IBM version. Thanks, Tom -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
