Re: [SWCollect] Early Controversial Games
Jim Leonard boldly stated: C.E. Forman wrote: Softporn by On-Line Systems I've seen that cover and I don't think that picture came from a party -- Ken is clearly dressed for the role and nobody is smiling, they're staring directly at the camera. It was an intentional shoot. Alright, where can I see this cover? The Bilestoad (I forget the company) Criticized for its violence, some magazines even banned it from reviews. Gameplay consists of two opponents hacking each others' limbs off with axes. Quite realistic graphics for its time, especially for the Apple II. (This was 10 years before Mortal Kombat and Time Killers.) Yep, all true. You can read a full account in Halcyon Days (only $10 from www.dadgum.com). His game is also notorious for proving piracy true. It only sold about 12,000 copies if memory serves, which wasn't enough to sustain the programmer and he stopped making (quality) games -- yet Bilestoad was one of the most copied games I can ever remember. I might also mention that he's working on a remake of the game for the Mac. I don't have the URL handy, sorry. -- Lee K. Seitz * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://home.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/ Wanted: Vintage Pac-M*n necktie (The asterisk is to keep from mucking up people's Usenet search results. Replace it with an a, if you didn't know.) -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Early Controversial Games
Lee K. Seitz wrote: Jim Leonard boldly stated: C.E. Forman wrote: Softporn by On-Line Systems I've seen that cover and I don't think that picture came from a party -- Ken is clearly dressed for the role and nobody is smiling, they're staring directly at the camera. It was an intentional shoot. Alright, where can I see this cover? Crap... I thought I knew where I had this on disk, but now I can't find it. Can anyone with the game kindly scan it? If it find it, I'll post it somewhere. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Early Controversial Games
Jim Leonard wrote: Lee K. Seitz wrote: Jim Leonard boldly stated: C.E. Forman wrote: Softporn by On-Line Systems I've seen that cover and I don't think that picture came from a party -- Ken is clearly dressed for the role and nobody is smiling, they're staring directly at the camera. It was an intentional shoot. Alright, where can I see this cover? Of course, the answer turned out to be obvious: http://www.if-legends.org/~yois/vault/sierra_softporn.html Apologies to Chris. Chris, can you do a better scan of the cover at 150 DPI or higher now that you know about the descreening trick? Re-looking at the cover, it is obvious that it is *not* a candid photo. I think the story going around is urban legend. ..and, idiot that I am, I checked Chris's web page and he also clearly states the origins of the photo. So I'm curious why he originally mentioned a few messages ago that it was some sort of candid shot. Oh well, just picking nits here, it's not important by any stretch of the word ;-) Chris, how, where, from whom, and how much did you pay to get your copy? -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Early Controversial Games
It is definitely a posed picture. The other two women in the hot tub were secretaries at Sierra during the early 80s. The tub was installed in the Williams' Oakhurst home. The picture was Ken's idea though. Jim Leonard wrote: Lee K. Seitz wrote: Jim Leonard boldly stated: C.E. Forman wrote: Softporn by On-Line Systems I've seen that cover and I don't think that picture came from a party -- Ken is clearly dressed for the role and nobody is smiling, they're staring directly at the camera. It was an intentional shoot. Alright, where can I see this cover? Of course, the answer turned out to be obvious: http://www.if-legends.org/~yois/vault/sierra_softporn.html Apologies to Chris. Chris, can you do a better scan of the cover at 150 DPI or higher now that you know about the descreening trick? Re-looking at the cover, it is obvious that it is *not* a candid photo. I think the story going around is urban legend. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Early Controversial Games
Softporn by On-Line Systems I've seen that cover and I don't think that picture came from a party -- Ken is clearly dressed for the role and nobody is smiling, they're staring directly at the camera. It was an intentional shoot. Yes it was. This was meant as an inside joke, but I'll revise the text for the column. Oh, but that's not Ken on the cover, though it does look like him. That's an actual waiter, hired from a local four-star restaurant for the shot. (Source: Al Lowe.) Alright, where can I see this cover? My pages. Specifically, http://www.if-legends.org/~yois/vault/sierra_softporn.html -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Early Controversial Games
Chris, can you do a better scan of the cover at 150 DPI or higher now that you know about the descreening trick? I've been meaning to redo a lot of my vault scans with descreening, for the new Shoppe go-live. Right now I just don't have time, though I'll get to it when I get to it. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Early Controversial Games
C.E. Forman wrote: Chris, how, where, from whom, and how much did you pay to get your copy? I actually have two copies, one Apple and one Atari. (I collect folder variations, though, so I won't be trading one as a duplicate.) Got one from another Sierra collector and one from eBay. Expect to pay over $150 unless you get lucky. Did you get lucky? -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Early Controversial Games
No, I did not. - Original Message - From: Jim Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Early Controversial Games C.E. Forman wrote: Chris, how, where, from whom, and how much did you pay to get your copy? I actually have two copies, one Apple and one Atari. (I collect folder variations, though, so I won't be trading one as a duplicate.) Got one from another Sierra collector and one from eBay. Expect to pay over $150 unless you get lucky. Did you get lucky? -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/
