[swinog] Berne Beer Event No. 5
Hello everybody It's time to announce the fifth Berne Beer-Event, also known as BE^2-Event 5 This time rather unusual: during the last week of this year. We will take the time and discuss future and the past - obviously with some x-mas beer-support :-) The proposal is as usual: - Location: Altes Tramdepot Bern [1] - Date: Thursday, December 27, 2007 - Time: starting 18.00 until ? - Attendees: the usual (network and servers admins...) also non-swinog members are welcome (feel free to forward this email to colleagues) [1] http://www.altestramdepot.ch/ Please give me a short feedback if you will attend in order to make a reserveration as early as possible. Best regards, Reto ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Germany: using blacklists now illegal?
Greetings, > In case Az. 7 O 80/07, the District Court of Lüneburg has ruled > that the use of blacklists for mail filtering is an illegal process. > The court thereby confirmed the view of a known spammer that the fact > that mails from his servers were deleted by the SPAM filter was an > act of censorship. > > According to the ruling, the fact that a mail server is used to > transmit soleily SPAM is not sufficient to block mails from it > entirely. Blocking a single mail address would have been sufficient, > according to the court. However, even this step would only have been > acceptable in order to prevent an immanent danger of a virus attack. According to a c't article, they seem to interprete it in the way that if you reject the mail during the smtp transaction, this ruling doesn't apply because you didn't delete the mail (you never accepted it = it was never successfully sent from the sending mailserver). The article also stated that it was the case of an ISP blocking the IP. So if you allow your customers to define which blacklist they want to use and which not or if you put all the spam into a separate folder (and thus not delete it after the smtp transaction was successfully completed), you should be fine. Regards Jean-Pierre -- HILOTEC Engineering + Consulting AG - Langnau im Emmental Energietechnik und Datensysteme: Server, PCs, Linux, Telefonanlagen, VOIP, Hosting, Datenbanken, Entwicklung, Komplettlösungen für KMUs Tel: +41 34 402 74 00 - http://www.hilotec.com/ ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] Germany: using blacklists now illegal?
Salut, In case Az. 7 O 80/07, the District Court of Lüneburg has ruled that the use of blacklists for mail filtering is an illegal process. The court thereby confirmed the view of a known spammer that the fact that mails from his servers were deleted by the SPAM filter was an act of censorship. According to the ruling, the fact that a mail server is used to transmit soleily SPAM is not sufficient to block mails from it entirely. Blocking a single mail address would have been sufficient, according to the court. However, even this step would only have been acceptable in order to prevent an immanent danger of a virus attack. Well, pretty bad... Tonnerre pgpQwRgsxKnw7.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] www.bluewin.ch
Hello Matthias, more information please: SRC IP, tracroute Guido Matthias Hertzog wrote: > Hi folks! > > Anyone able to connect http://www.bluewin.ch? I've tried it from > several locations without success between 22:15 and 22:37. > > Best wishes, > Matthias > > _ > > mhs @ internet AG > Zürcherstrasse 204, CH - 9014 St. Gallen > Phone +41 71 274 93 93, Fax +41 71 274 93 94 > http://www.mhs.ch > _ > > > > > > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog