Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 57, Issue 5

2009-10-13 Diskussionsfäden Leo Vegoda
Hi Alison,

On 09/10/2009 3:34, "Jaina, Alison"  wrote:

> Hi Leo,
> I noticed that KPN is not on the list...
> KPN can also offer IPv6 Transit Services in Switzerland.  If you pass on my
> details I would be very grateful.

I will but I think that being on the Sixxs web page might be most useful. I
made sure to include a link to that along with the other details I passed on
and I suspect that all the providers from that list (who can offer
connectivity in Geneva) will be contacted.

Leo 


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Re: [swinog] Follow Up Full BGP Routing Router Requirments

2009-10-13 Diskussionsfäden Paolo Lucente
Patrick,

To avoid calculations and approaching your question empirically memory-wise:
this is from a C7200 loaded with 2xBGP feeds (IPv4 only, no VPNv4/6 or IPv6)
coming from a pair of RRs:

xxx-xxx-xxx#sho ip bgp sum
[ ... ]
BGP using 64846521 total bytes of memory

xxx-xxx-xxx#sho ver
[ ... ]
cisco 7206VXR (NPE-G1) processor (revision B) with 491520K/32768K bytes of 
memory.

xxx-xxx-xxx#sho processes memory sorted
Total: 439578720, Used: 250155420, Free: 189423300
 PID TTY  Allocated  FreedHoldingGetbufsRetbufs Process
 188   0 3172456404  327505564  162849436  12096  0 BGP Router
[ ... ]

Essentially the answer is yes - 512MB is enough for your specific scenario.
It would leave some spare room for growth of the routing tables; not really
for adding a 3rd full BGP feed. Hope this helps. Overrall, good choice the
VXR with NPE-400, if fits the pocket.

Cheers,
Paolo


On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 01:18:00PM +0200, Patrick Studer wrote:
> Hi Bernd
> 
> My question was, if the memory is enough. I know, that you wrote, that
> for ddos problem, this solution isn't recommended. But I only want to know, 
> if 512 MB is enough to hold two full routing tables and some prefixes from
> swiss-ix. The router will only run bgp and some acl. Also, we will implement
> some QoS.
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> Patrick Studer
> 
> -Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Bernd SPIESS [mailto:bernd.spi...@ascus.at] 
> Gesendet: Montag, 12. Oktober 2009 19:20
> An: 'Patrick Studer'
> Betreff: RE: [swinog] Follow Up Full BGP Routing Router Requirments
> 
> look for my mails - i would not recommend this solution - 
> 
> but of course it depends on your bandwith needs - 
> for very low bandwith and no chance to hold 
> a ddos you can go with this solution - no problem
> 
> bernd
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] 
> On Behalf Of Patrick Studer
> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 4:42 PM
> To: 'swinog@lists.swinog.ch'
> Subject: [swinog] Follow Up Full BGP Routing Router Requirments
> 
> Hi
> 
> As allready requested (see our post from 17.09.), we are looking for a 
> solutions, which will bring
> us the possibility to be multi homed and get full routing table from two
> isp and peerings to an exchange point. 
> 
> We now have an offer for an refurbished 7206VXR with NPE-400 and 512 MB 
> Memory. Would that
> be enough, to hold two full routing table (if needed) and peerings? We think, 
> there are around
> 300K prefixes around know, so it should be okay? Right?
> 
> We will install two of them (each one connected to one of the upstream 
> provider). Between both, we
> will do IBGP. On the router, we just will have BGP, some small ACLs, perhaps 
> some QoS. That's it.
> 
> The idea behind that solutions is, that if the NPE-400 wouldn't be enough in 
> 1-2 years, we can
> just exchange the NPE-400 against a NPE-G2. Since the NPE-400 is really 
> cheap, we don't lose
> too much money, when we will exchange it in 1-2 years.
> 
> Thanks for any inputs.
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> Patrick Studer


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Re: [swinog] Follow Up Full BGP Routing Router Requirments

2009-10-13 Diskussionsfäden Łukasz Bromirski
On 2009-10-13 13:18, Patrick Studer wrote:
> Hi Bernd
>
> My question was, if the memory is enough. I know, that you wrote, that
> for ddos problem, this solution isn't recommended. But I only want to know,
> if 512 MB is enough to hold two full routing tables and some prefixes from
> swiss-ix. The router will only run bgp and some acl. Also, we will implement
> some QoS.

The 512MB will be enough with correctly choosen IOS (12.2S or 12.4),
and without soft-config for two full BGP feeds. As for "little" QoS
on NPE400 I'd be very careful to focus on "little" depending on the
links bandwidth.

-- 
"Everything will be okay in the end. |  Łukasz Bromirski
  If it's not okay, it's not the end. |   http://lukasz.bromirski.net

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Re: [swinog] Follow Up Full BGP Routing Router Requirments

2009-10-13 Diskussionsfäden Patrick Studer
Hi Bernd

My question was, if the memory is enough. I know, that you wrote, that
for ddos problem, this solution isn't recommended. But I only want to know, 
if 512 MB is enough to hold two full routing tables and some prefixes from
swiss-ix. The router will only run bgp and some acl. Also, we will implement
some QoS.

Kind Regards

Patrick Studer

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Bernd SPIESS [mailto:bernd.spi...@ascus.at] 
Gesendet: Montag, 12. Oktober 2009 19:20
An: 'Patrick Studer'
Betreff: RE: [swinog] Follow Up Full BGP Routing Router Requirments

look for my mails - i would not recommend this solution - 

but of course it depends on your bandwith needs - 
for very low bandwith and no chance to hold 
a ddos you can go with this solution - no problem

bernd


-Original Message-
From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On 
Behalf Of Patrick Studer
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 4:42 PM
To: 'swinog@lists.swinog.ch'
Subject: [swinog] Follow Up Full BGP Routing Router Requirments

Hi

As allready requested (see our post from 17.09.), we are looking for a 
solutions, which will bring
us the possibility to be multi homed and get full routing table from two
isp and peerings to an exchange point. 

We now have an offer for an refurbished 7206VXR with NPE-400 and 512 MB Memory. 
Would that
be enough, to hold two full routing table (if needed) and peerings? We think, 
there are around
300K prefixes around know, so it should be okay? Right?

We will install two of them (each one connected to one of the upstream 
provider). Between both, we
will do IBGP. On the router, we just will have BGP, some small ACLs, perhaps 
some QoS. That's it.

The idea behind that solutions is, that if the NPE-400 wouldn't be enough in 
1-2 years, we can
just exchange the NPE-400 against a NPE-G2. Since the NPE-400 is really cheap, 
we don't lose
too much money, when we will exchange it in 1-2 years.

Thanks for any inputs.

Kind Regards

Patrick Studer


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