Re: [swinog] killer app for IPv6
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Guazzoni Daniele, CH wrote: ROFL ! Or you force sex sites to use exclusively v6. Although this would probably lead into some name change: istead of IPvSix is gonna be IPvSex... Umm.!! or just move to New Zealand then.. :-) - -gaurab -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkr5eEwACgkQSo7fU26F3X03lwCfUWhMVphyregZapouGbmfZCnK kgkAoNbB9RJ+dnHOSO751yIjHADEEM8G =Eexc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] killer app for IPv6
Lets keep this brief: Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: well, I'm not crazy to develop a new ultimate spam killer from scratch :) http://www.rhyolite.com/anti-spam/you-might-be.html#programmer-12 but those groups don't seem to propose something new either. Wow, you where able to read the IETF, IRTF and MAAWG lists in such a short time? I'm just telling that SMTP is not the right protocol for email delivery: http://www.rhyolite.com/anti-spam/you-might-be.html#senior-IETF-member-5 -- why do client-to-server and server-to-server have to be the same protocol on the same TCP port? These are completely different tasks with different domains of control, so they have to be two different protocols. Why would you want two different ones? You do realize that the Internet is a network of networks, and that there is no separation between users and server eh? -- there's no obligatory identity check. Well, most ISPs have SMTP authentication for users, but on server2server path, there's none. http://www.rhyolite.com/anti-spam/you-might-be.html#programmer-6 http://www.rhyolite.com/anti-spam/you-might-be.html#programmer-7 -- With wide spread of patent-free cryptography algorithms, why aren't the digital certificates obligatory? http://www.rhyolite.com/anti-spam/you-might-be.html#programmer-8 ... and so on. I just say that now it's the only chance to deploy something new, as IPv6 deployment is already something new. There won't be another chance for ditching some old rusty legacy stuff :) http://www.rhyolite.com/anti-spam/you-might-be.html#programmer-12 Lets say that I just suggest you start reading a lot more first ;) Greets, Jeroen signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] killer app for IPv6
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 03:27:03PM +, Andy Davidson wrote: Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: some time ago we already discussed that there's no killer application that would push the ipv6 deployment forward. Errr, more addresses. Wait until there's no more v4 left. Bang. Killer app. Oh please, I hear this argument since years and it will just not happen. Instead of a killer app we should look for an IPv6 killer. It would make the internet a much better place without this clumsy fat and badly over-designed protocol and it would make an end to all this stupid threads. -- :wq Claudio ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] killer app for IPv6
Claudio Jeker wrote: On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 03:27:03PM +, Andy Davidson wrote: Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: some time ago we already discussed that there's no killer application that would push the ipv6 deployment forward. Errr, more addresses. Wait until there's no more v4 left. Bang. Killer app. Oh please, I hear this argument since years and it will just not happen. Instead of a killer app we should look for an IPv6 killer. It would make the internet a much better place without this clumsy fat and badly over-designed protocol and it would make an end to all this stupid threads. One size does not fit all You are btw always enticed to write up a good document containing all the 'clumsy fat' and 'bad' things and pass that to the IETF as a draft and possibly better push it as an Informational RFC so that the next round of IPng comes up those considerations are taken into account... Greets, Jeroen signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
