Re: [swinog] Recommanded IOS Package for 7206VXR + NPE400 to do IPv6/BGP + AS Number 4-byte

2011-07-15 Thread Patrick Studer
Hi Mathias

Thank you for you Feedback. It seems to be a good alternative to our currently 
installed VXR7206 with NPE-400.

Also, if I look on the performance Sheet from Cisco, where the 2921 even 
outperform the NPE-400 a little bit.

I think, we will take a deeper look in this solutions. 

Thanks you again.

Kind Regards

Patrick

PS: Hope your installation work at EBM, which you have done about 2 weeks ago, 
went well ;-)


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Mathias Seiler [mailto:mathias.sei...@mironet.ch] 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. Juli 2011 17:24
An: Patrick Studer
Cc: 'swi...@swinog.ch'
Betreff: Re: [swinog] Recommanded IOS Package for 7206VXR + NPE400 to do 
IPv6/BGP + AS Number 4-byte

Hi Patrick

I've seen 2921 doing 150 Mbit/s mixed HTTP traffic (without many services 
configured and with about 50% CPU load). And yes, with the new IOS version 15 
you can run full BGP and IPv6 BGP with the IP Base Feature Set. I can confirm 
this. Also OSPFv3 is working in IP Base.

Since this is a software router it depends very much what services you 
configure (rpf checks etc.). Also if you get DoSed the box won't last for long. 
But they're pretty powerful if you consider the price. You can get it with 1.5 
or 1 GBytes factory upgraded memory, 512 MB should work too, but IMHO not for 
long :)

If you want to go a step higher consider a pair of ASR1001, but the price gap 
from the 2921 or even 2951 is fairly large.


HTH
- Mathias

On 14 Jul 2011, at 16:52, Patrick Studer wrote:

> Hi
> 
> @Manfredo/Daniele - Hmm..Already thought about perhaps switching to 
> one of this routers. Is a 2921 really taking all (Full IPv4/IPv6 Features 
> incl. all BGP, ASN 4-bytes) just with the regular IP Base = Part-No. 
> CISCO2921/K9?
> What can we expect as maximum traffic for this configuration?
> 
> @Andy/Michael - Would the SP not be sufficient. Or why should we use Advanced 
> IP or Advanced Enterprise service?
> 
> @Kurt - What are the hardware specification of your setup for you 
> Quagga? Is Quagga able to do HSRP or something similar? How much bandwidth do 
> you handle with that configuration?
> 
> @All, is enabling of IPv6 taking that much memory, so 512 MB with two 
> full feed and some SwissIX peering would be enough?
> 
> Thanks already for your pervious answers.
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> Patrick
> 
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Manfredo Miserocchi [mailto:m...@wari.net]
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Juli 2011 07:34
> An: Patrick Studer
> Cc: 'swi...@swinog.ch'
> Betreff: Re: [swinog] Recommanded IOS Package for 7206VXR + NPE400 to 
> do IPv6/BGP + AS Number 4-byte
> 
> 
> Patrick,
> 
> only one issue on RAM needed. NPE400 supports 512Mb, that's not enough for a 
> full-view BGP. We better use 7301 or 2921 with 1Gb and 15.0 software.
> 
> Cheers
> Manfredo
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy Davidson 
> To: Patrick Studer 
> Cc: "'swi...@swinog.ch'" 
> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:40:30 +0100
> Subject: Re: [swinog] Recommanded IOS Package for 7206VXR + NPE400 to 
> do IPv6/BGP + AS Number 4-byte
> 
>> 
>> On 11 Jul 2011, at 17:23, Patrick Studer wrote:
>> 
>>> We want to go a step further with our infrastructure and start 
>>> testing/implementing IPv6.
>>> 
>>> Has anybody here a 7206VXR + NPE400 running and doing IPv6 / Full 
>>> BGP / 4-byte ASN? If yes, which IOS Version and Package do you have 
>>> installed. How much memory / flash do you have installed?
>>> 
>>> We currently have "only" two upstreams and some SwissIX peering.
>> 
>> Hey Patrick. :-)
>> 
>> I was running some 7206 in my past job, although these had an NPE-G1 or 
>> NPE-G2, with 1GB of RAM.
>> 
>> You need Advanced IP Services or Advanced Enterprise services for v6 
>> routing, and Multiprotocol (i.e. v4 and v6) BGP.
>> You need 12.4(24)T, or 12.2(33)SRE1 (or later, including all 15.0) for 4 
>> byte ASNs.
>> 
>> So you should get away with, assuming your NPE has the storage and 
>> RAM
>> :  c7200-advipservicesk9-mz.12.2-33.SRE1 to SRE4, or 
>> c7200-advipservicesk9-mz.124-24.T5.bin.
>> 
>> And of course, we at as6939/he.net would like to help with your v6. 
>> :-)
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
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Re: [swinog] Recommanded IOS Package for 7206VXR + NPE400 to do IPv6/BGP + AS Number 4-byte

2011-07-15 Thread Patrick Studer
Hi Daniele

Thanks for your real work sample. As I already written to Mathias, I really 
think, you should take
a deeper look on switching perhaps to two 2921 (side effect will be, that we 
will will a little
bit of Rackspace ;-).

Kind Regards

Patrick 

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] Im 
Auftrag von Guazzoni Daniele, CH
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. Juli 2011 20:08
An: 'swi...@swinog.ch'
Betreff: Re: [swinog] Recommanded IOS Package for 7206VXR + NPE400 to do 
IPv6/BGP + AS Number 4-byte

We have 4 x 2921 as frontend BGP routers carring 100 Mbps average with full BGP 
table @ v4 / v6.
With 1 GB RAM and a lean straight configuration the CPU load is topping at 18%.

Regarding the memory for full-table BGP:
With 512 M in total you will run really short (depending how much is reserved 
for I/O, buffers, ...).
With 1G you still have plenty of space to be filled with v6 prefixes :-)

Daniele

-Original Message-
From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On 
Behalf Of Patrick Studer
Sent: Donnerstag, 14. Juli 2011 16:52
To: 'swi...@swinog.ch'
Subject: Re: [swinog] Recommanded IOS Package for 7206VXR + NPE400 to do 
IPv6/BGP + AS Number 4-byte

Hi

@Manfredo/Daniele - Hmm..Already thought about perhaps switching to one of this 
routers. Is a 2921 really taking all (Full IPv4/IPv6 Features incl. all BGP, 
ASN 4-bytes) just with the regular IP Base = Part-No. CISCO2921/K9?
What can we expect as maximum traffic for this configuration?

@Andy/Michael - Would the SP not be sufficient. Or why should we use Advanced 
IP or Advanced Enterprise service?

@Kurt - What are the hardware specification of your setup for you Quagga? Is 
Quagga able to do HSRP or something similar? How much bandwidth do you handle 
with that configuration?

@All, is enabling of IPv6 taking that much memory, so 512 MB with two full feed 
and some SwissIX peering would be enough?

Thanks already for your pervious answers.

Kind Regards

Patrick

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Manfredo Miserocchi [mailto:m...@wari.net]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Juli 2011 07:34
An: Patrick Studer
Cc: 'swi...@swinog.ch'
Betreff: Re: [swinog] Recommanded IOS Package for 7206VXR + NPE400 to do 
IPv6/BGP + AS Number 4-byte


Patrick,

only one issue on RAM needed. NPE400 supports 512Mb, that's not enough for a 
full-view BGP. We better use 7301 or 2921 with 1Gb and 15.0 software.

Cheers
Manfredo

-Original Message-
From: Andy Davidson 
To: Patrick Studer 
Cc: "'swi...@swinog.ch'" 
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:40:30 +0100
Subject: Re: [swinog] Recommanded IOS Package for 7206VXR + NPE400 to do 
IPv6/BGP + AS Number 4-byte

>
> On 11 Jul 2011, at 17:23, Patrick Studer wrote:
>
> > We want to go a step further with our infrastructure and start 
> > testing/implementing IPv6.
> >
> > Has anybody here a 7206VXR + NPE400 running and doing IPv6 / Full 
> > BGP / 4-byte ASN? If yes, which IOS Version and Package do you have 
> > installed. How much memory / flash do you have installed?
> >
> > We currently have “only” two upstreams and some SwissIX peering.
>
> Hey Patrick. :-)
>
> I was running some 7206 in my past job, although these had an NPE-G1 or 
> NPE-G2, with 1GB of RAM.
>
> You need Advanced IP Services or Advanced Enterprise services for v6 routing, 
> and Multiprotocol (i.e. v4 and v6) BGP.
> You need 12.4(24)T, or 12.2(33)SRE1 (or later, including all 15.0) for 4 byte 
> ASNs.
>
> So you should get away with, assuming your NPE has the storage and RAM
> :  c7200-advipservicesk9-mz.12.2-33.SRE1 to SRE4, or 
> c7200-advipservicesk9-mz.124-24.T5.bin.
>
> And of course, we at as6939/he.net would like to help with your v6.
> :-)
>
> Andy
>
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