Re: [swinog] EtherChannel - Long Time between LINK-3-UPDOWN and LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN

2012-04-05 Diskussionsfäden Tobias Brunner
Hi everyone,

I've compiled all your input, here is the output:

The cables are all cat5e, which should be OK. But to be sure I've managed to 
find a cat6 cable, but as expected, it did not change anything. So the cables 
are not the problem.

Then I added speed 1000 and duplex full to the two port configuration, 
but: no change.

Next step: Try mode on - Does not work because on is PAGP which is not 
compatible with LACP.

Go on: Try switchport nonegotiate - No change in behaviour.

When the servers are booting (BIOS, not yet OS) then there is no 
bonding/etherchannel available. Both ports are independent. That should be no 
problem for the mode active/passive and it works as expected, the server can 
do DHCP/PXE during boot. But it takes a long time until the server gets an IP 
from DHCP because it takes so long to get the protocol up.

Is your server supporting LACP?
During BIOS boot: no
While running OS: yes

How are is the bonding configured on the interfaces?
During BIOS boot: not configured
While running OS: configured with linux bonding (that works fine)

Maybe this will stay a mysterium =)

I wish everyone good luck in finding the easter-eggs.
(Maybe this behavior is a cisco-easter-egg and solved after easter, who knows 
=)

Cheers,
Tobias

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Re: [swinog] EtherChannel - Long Time between LINK-3-UPDOWN and LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN

2012-04-05 Diskussionsfäden vwatson
Tobias:
Why is pxe enabled?  Is this device having its IOS image downloaded from a tftp 
server every time it boots up? That would account for the latency...
Vinnie

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From: Tobias Brunner tobias.brun...@nine.ch
To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Sent: Thu, Apr 5, 2012 16:21:26 GMT+02:00
Subject: Re: [swinog] EtherChannel - Long Time between  LINK-3-UPDOWN   and 
LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN

Hi everyone,

I've compiled all your input, here is the output:

The cables are all cat5e, which should be OK. But to be sure I've managed to 
find a cat6 cable, but as expected, it did not change anything. So the cables 
are not the problem.

Then I added speed 1000 and duplex full to the two port configuration, 
but: no change.

Next step: Try mode on - Does not work because on is PAGP which is not 
compatible with LACP.

Go on: Try switchport nonegotiate - No change in behaviour.

When the servers are booting (BIOS, not yet OS) then there is no 
bonding/etherchannel available. Both ports are independent. That should be no 
problem for the mode active/passive and it works as expected, the server can 
do DHCP/PXE during boot. But it takes a long time until the server gets an IP 
from DHCP because it takes so long to get the protocol up.

Is your server supporting LACP?
During BIOS boot: no
While running OS: yes

How are is the bonding configured on the interfaces?
During BIOS boot: not configured
While running OS: configured with linux bonding (that works fine)

Maybe this will stay a mysterium =)

I wish everyone good luck in finding the easter-eggs.
(Maybe this behavior is a cisco-easter-egg and solved after easter, who knows 
=)

Cheers,
Tobias

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Re: [swinog] EtherChannel - Long Time between LINK-3-UPDOWN and LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN

2012-04-05 Diskussionsfäden Tobias Brunner
Hi,

 Tobias:
 Why is pxe enabled?  Is this device having its IOS image downloaded from a
 tftp server every time it boots up? That would account for the latency...
PXE is enabled on the server, not on the switch =)

Tobias


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Re: [swinog] EtherChannel - Long Time between LINK-3-UPDOWN and LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN

2012-04-05 Diskussionsfäden Mathias Seiler
Hi Tobias

It may be a stupid question, but have you tried opening a SR with Cisco TAC ? :)


Cheers!

On 5 Apr 2012, at 17:41, Tobias Brunner wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Tobias:
 Why is pxe enabled?  Is this device having its IOS image downloaded from a
 tftp server every time it boots up? That would account for the latency...
 PXE is enabled on the server, not on the switch =)
 
 Tobias
 
 
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Re: [swinog] EtherChannel - Long Time between LINK-3-UPDOWN and LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN

2012-04-05 Diskussionsfäden Lukas Eisenberger

Hi Tobias

Here are perhaps some hints...

-channel-group NUMBER mode on: Is a static channel with NO channel 
protocol on it. If you speak LACP on the other side the channel won't 
come up because the neighbors don't agree to a channel. You need a 
channel-group NUMBER mode active on the switch side so it speaks LACP. 
Set it to this mode and run a debug on the switch so you can see more: 
debug  lacp ?
See: 
(http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst3560/software/release/15.0_1_se/command/reference/cli1.html#wp11890010) 
You can also fix the channel only to speak LACP with channel-protocol 
lacp in combination with channel-group NUMBER active. See: 
(http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst3560/software/release/15.0_1_se/command/reference/cli1.html#wp11890203)


-switchport nonegotiate: disables DTP (dynamic trunking protocol) which 
is used to negotiate a trunk between to dtp speaking switches. If you 
set the port to switchport mode trunk on the switch side then you make 
a trunk on this port. See: 
(http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst3560/software/release/15.0_1_se/command/reference/cli3.html#wp1948171) 
. So in my point of view you don't need the switchport nonegotiate 
command.


-speed 1000: if you fix the speed to 1Gbit then its always full duplex. 
There is no 1Gbit with halfduplex as far as I know. So the duplex full 
is also useless on this port. Generally speaking: If you fix the duplex 
mode and speed one side please watch out that you also fix it on the 
other side.


So I would frist watch out that the channel comes up. For trunking and 
vlans on the trunks you can troubleshoot later.


Cheers

Luki




Am 05.04.2012 16:21, schrieb Tobias Brunner:

Hi everyone,

I've compiled all your input, here is the output:

The cables are all cat5e, which should be OK. But to be sure I've managed to
find a cat6 cable, but as expected, it did not change anything. So the cables
are not the problem.

Then I added speed 1000 and duplex full to the two port configuration,
but: no change.

Next step: Try mode on -  Does not work because on is PAGP which is not
compatible with LACP.

Go on: Try switchport nonegotiate -  No change in behaviour.

When the servers are booting (BIOS, not yet OS) then there is no
bonding/etherchannel available. Both ports are independent. That should be no
problem for the mode active/passive and it works as expected, the server can
do DHCP/PXE during boot. But it takes a long time until the server gets an IP
from DHCP because it takes so long to get the protocol up.


Is your server supporting LACP?

During BIOS boot: no
While running OS: yes


How are is the bonding configured on the interfaces?

During BIOS boot: not configured
While running OS: configured with linux bonding (that works fine)

Maybe this will stay a mysterium =)

I wish everyone good luck in finding the easter-eggs.
(Maybe this behavior is a cisco-easter-egg and solved after easter, who knows
=)

Cheers,
Tobias





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