Re: [swinog] ahhh feel much better
Bonjour, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > hmm there is chicken or turkey cordon-bleu on some places available > even migros selling frozen version of chicken cordon-bleu > > Am 21 Oct 2008 um 16:22 hat Steven Glogger geschrieben: >>cordon-bleu is not chicken... The real good news is that there is no original and real Spam ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE So no need to greylist and filter. (sorry, could not resist, too late :-( Best regards, -- __Bernard DUGAS _ | IS Production s.a. Innovative Solutions Production | | Technoparc Pays de Gex [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | 30 Rue Auguste Piccard Mob.: +33 615 333 770 | | 01630 St Genis Pouilly - FRANCE -Fax : +33 450 205 106 | |_| ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Embedded Linux practicing
Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: > Bernard, this one looks really nice. If you've got the sponsoring, then I'm > in :) I was answering to "ideas" question, no sponsoring question :-) But anybody else interested in sponsoring ? >>>any ideas what else could be an interesting project? Best regards, -- __Bernard DUGAS _ | IS Production s.a. Innovative Solutions Production | | Technoparc Pays de Gex [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | 30 Rue Auguste Piccard Mob.: +33 615 333 770 | | 01630 St Genis Pouilly - FRANCE -Fax : +33 450 205 106 | |_| ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Embedded Linux practicing
Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: > Bernard, this one looks really nice. If you've got the sponsoring, then I'm > in :) I was answering to "ideas" question, no sponsoring question :-) But anybody else interested in sponsoring ? >>>any ideas what else could be an interesting project? Best regrads, -- __Bernard DUGAS _ | IS Production s.a. Innovative Solutions Production | | Technoparc Pays de Gex [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | 30 Rue Auguste Piccard Mob.: +33 615 333 770 | | 01630 St Genis Pouilly - FRANCE -Fax : +33 450 205 106 | |_| ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Embedded Linux practicing
Hello, Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: > any ideas what else could be an interesting project? Or probably you have a > real project in mind? What about : - a device that would be installed in cars , - to build a mesh wifi 2.45GHz between cars, - and a 5.4GHz to some external relays when available, - to allow for transmission between cars of : . fast alarm (strong acceleration/deccelaration) ; . relative positionning ; . voip diffusion to close cars ; . engine technical parameters (for maintenance) ; - and dynamic internet relaying to closer external relays ; - available with open source (Linux+bsd). ? Best regards, -- __Bernard DUGAS _ | IS Production s.a. Innovative Solutions Production | | Technoparc Pays de Gex [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | 30 Rue Auguste Piccard Mob.: +33 615 333 770 | | 01630 St Genis Pouilly - FRANCE -Fax : +33 450 205 106 | |_| ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] to SPF or not to SPF
Schmid wrote: Well to use other SMTP relay than the one from the used ISP is not allways possible, and should be prevented anyway. Why ? there is no risk if encryotion/authentication is used. nearly 100% of the spam is caused by direct senders, very seldom they use the ISP's Relay. so lets close that big spamfriendly hole. This is why SPF + authentication on outgoing smtp should avoid this "direct senders" spam origin. Best regards, -- ______ Bernard DUGAS | | | Technoparc Pays de Gex mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | 30 Rue Auguste Piccard Tel.: +33 615 333 770 | | FR 01630 St Genis Pouilly Fax : +33 450 205 106 | |_| ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] to SPF or not to SPF
Hi, Jean-Pierre Schwickerath wrote: If you consider SPF to be the solution against all kinds of SPAMs then you will indeed be disapointed. SPF is meant to prevent the abuse of your domain as mail envelope from address. There are still worms out there that use harvested e-mail addresses as sender. And when the people receiving this kind of spam come back to you, you can at least tell them: hey, we published spf records to show you which IPs are allowed to send mail with this envelope address. if you don't check it and accept the obvious forgery, then it's your problem. And in complement to that, if we give to our customers some outgoing smtp servers with authentification they can use from any hotel/wifi in the world, there is no more reason that any email with your domain-names are sent from other smtp servers than ours, published with SPF in DNS. And the customer is happy because he doesn't have to change smtp server each time he travels :-) Best regards, -- ______ Bernard DUGAS | | | Technoparc Pays de Gex mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | 30 Rue Auguste Piccard Tel.: +33 615 333 770 | | FR 01630 St Genis Pouilly Fax : +33 450 205 106 | |_| ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] to SPF or not to SPF
Jean-Pierre Schwickerath wrote: If you consider SPF to be the solution against all kinds of SPAMs then you will indeed be disapointed. SPF is meant to prevent the abuse of your domain as mail envelope from address. There are still worms out there that use harvested e-mail addresses as sender. And when the people receiving this kind of spam come back to you, you can at least tell them: hey, we published spf records to show you which IPs are allowed to send mail with this envelope address. if you don't check it and accept the obvious forgery, then it's your problem. And in complement to that, if we give to our customers some outgoing smtp servers with authentification they can use from any hotel/wifi in the world, there is no more reason that any email with your domain-names are sent from other smtp servers than ours, published with SPF in DNS. And the customer is happy because he doesn't have to change smtp server each time he travels :-) Best regards, -- ______ Bernard DUGAS | | | Technoparc Pays de Gex mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | 30 Rue Auguste Piccard Tel.: +33 615 333 770 | | FR 01630 St Genis Pouilly Fax : +33 450 205 106 | |_| ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] to SPF or not to SPF
Viktor Steinmann wrote: Nowadays, every sicko can buy a .com domain for 9$ or even less. Spammers buy domains, put correct SPF records in their zonefiles and throw the domain away afterwards... (just like you did with hotmail accounts a few years back :-)) Sure, but at least, I know that no spamming is coming from my users and my outgoing smtp : small satisfaction for a small network :-) But i can imagine large networks will not even care about that... Best regards, -- __ Bernard DUGAS | | | Technoparc Pays de Gex mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | 30 Rue Auguste Piccard Tel.: +33 615 333 770 | | FR 01630 St Genis Pouilly Fax : +33 450 205 106 | |_| ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] to SPF or not to SPF
Adrian Ulrich wrote: And why not using the existing authentication protocol on outgoing smtp server ? So the sender can use the smtp server of the provider of its email address from any network and SPF can work without any problem. How would this solve the forwarding problem? Sorry, i don't understand the forwarding problem... And how are you going to teach everybody to stop doing something that has been working fine for years? We have sent an email and had some more calls during 1st week afer email. But you can take the rythm you want to make people change, as the 2 systems can work together. Best regards, -- __ Bernard DUGAS | | | Technoparc Pays de Gex mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | 30 Rue Auguste Piccard Tel.: +33 615 333 770 | | FR 01630 St Genis Pouilly Fax : +33 450 205 106 | |_| ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] to SPF or not to SPF
Roger Buchwalder wrote: That would be a nice solution, but explain that to a user... We did it, and that was fine as they are only 2 boxes to click on outlook/outlookexpress, and still easy enough on mozilla/thunderbird with more mature users :-) All are very happy as they don't have to change their outgoing smtp when they move. We were also afraid at the beginning, and it is now a commercial advantage. Best regard, -- __ Bernard DUGAS | | | Technoparc Pays de Gex mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | 30 Rue Auguste Piccard Tel.: +33 615 333 770 | | FR 01630 St Genis Pouilly Fax : +33 450 205 106 | |_| ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] to SPF or not to SPF
Bonjour, Norbert Bollow wrote: Use DomainKeys instead of SPF. DomainKeys serves the same purpose, but doesn't share the fundamental brokenness of SPF. And why not using the existing authentication protocol on outgoing smtp server ? So the sender can use the smtp server of the provider of its email address from any network and SPF can work without any problem. Did i forget anything ? Best regards, -- __ Bernard DUGAS | | | Technoparc Pays de Gex mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | 30 Rue Auguste Piccard Tel.: +33 615 333 770 | | FR 01630 St Genis Pouilly Fax : +33 450 205 106 | |_| ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Solutions for emergency connectivity
Hi, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: Is there a way to very quickly set up a leased line or equivalent between the old site (Bern) and the new site (around Bern) at say 2 MBps symmetric ? Quickly is: should work on next tuesday. Do you have a direct path visibility between the 2 sites ? What length ? Best regards, -- __ Bernard DUGAS | | | Technoparc Pays de Gex mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | 30 Rue Auguste Piccard Tel.: +33 615 333 770 | | FR 01630 St Genis Pouilly Fax : +33 450 205 106 | |_| ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
