RE: [swinog] FW: Blocking request of a homepage
You're right ! I didn't talk about this side of the problem. I just spoke about blocking web access from ISP customers to an external website. -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Rene Luria Envoyé : jeudi, 14. juillet 2005 16:10 À : swinog@swinog.ch Objet : Re: [swinog] FW: Blocking request of a homepage On Thursday 14 July 2005 15.56, Olivier Graf wrote: > I don't understand the link between blocking a website and a SMTP > access... Nobody block a website because of spamming. If a client of yours abuse of one of the services you provide him, it can be legitimate to prevent him from using any of them. When the resources sold are web space and email, spaming may be a reason to block web access too, not only smtp. ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] FW: Blocking request of a homepage
Am Donnerstag, 14. Juli 2005 15.56 schrieb Olivier Graf: > Hi there, > > I don't understand the link between blocking a website and a SMTP access... > Nobody block a website because of spamming. It is very effective to block emails containing links to websites being spamvertized. see http://antispam.imp.ch/05-uribl.php Of course if somebody is wrongly blocked we are glad to remove him. And no... housestation.ch is not in our blacklist. -Benoit- -- SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM / Hormel's new miracle meat in a can Tastes fine, saves time. / If you want something grand, / Ask for SPAM! - Hormel's 1937 jingle for SPAM Hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia sh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/-phobia pgpQvZRyu9o5Y.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] FW: Blocking request of a homepage
On Thursday 14 July 2005 15.56, Olivier Graf wrote: > I don't understand the link between blocking a website and a SMTP > access... Nobody block a website because of spamming. If a client of yours abuse of one of the services you provide him, it can be legitimate to prevent him from using any of them. When the resources sold are web space and email, spaming may be a reason to block web access too, not only smtp. ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] FW: Blocking request of a homepage
If a advertisements for a website are made via spam, it could make sense to block access to that site. In any case, that block would have to be done by the hosting provider of the site. Zitat von Olivier Graf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi there, > > I don't understand the link between blocking a website and a SMTP access... > Nobody block a website because of spamming. > > Cheers > > Olivier ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
RE: [swinog] FW: Blocking request of a homepage
Hi there, I don't understand the link between blocking a website and a SMTP access... Nobody block a website because of spamming. Cheers Olivier -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Ladu, Daniele Envoyé : jeudi, 14. juillet 2005 15:39 À : swinog@swinog.ch Objet : [swinog] FW: Blocking request of a homepage Perhaps this message didn't arrive to the list, i try it one more time -Original Message- From: Ladu, Daniele Sent: Donnerstag, 14. Juli 2005 08:50 To: 'swinog@swinog.ch' Subject: Blocking request of a homepage Importance: High Hello dear SWINOG members I have a friend, that has a Club Music related Newsletter with over 15000 Email Adresses with double opt in and out. On the 12. July a little ISP has sent a request to hostpoint, regarding my friend and his spaming activity. The ISP told Hostpoint, that www.housestation.ch was blocked by some ISPs. As i know, sunrise has never blocked the Homepage of housestation. I think that the complaint from the ISP is a "private hate" against my friend. Therefore i wanna ask, if you can tell me if you (ISP) are blocking this Homepage, and if yes, how can we find out what the reason of the blocking is. Also we have complained at Hostpoint regarding the forward of the complaint without having the related Mailheader of the Spammail sent by my friend. The other thing is, that the Spammail in question was sent out on May. But my friend has sent out the Newsletter trough hostpoint the first time on the beginning of june. Thanks you for your help and feedbacks. Sincerly, Daniele Ladu Senior Technical Support Operator Sunrise TDC Switzerland AG Abuse Team Thurgauerstrasse 60 8050 Zürich Tel.+41 1 300 53 61 Fax +41 58 777 97 07 Mail[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet www.sunrise.ch *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify it to the sender. Cet email ainsi que tous les fichiers qui lui sont attaches sont confidentiels et reserves a l'usage exclusif des personnes auxquelles ils sont adresses. Si vous avez recu cet email par erreur, veuillez avoir l'obligeance d'en informer son emetteur. Dieses email sowie alle damit verbundenen Dateien sind vertraulich und nur fuer diejenigen Personen bestimmt, an die es adressiert ist. Wenn Sie dieses email irrtuemlicherweise erhalten haben, bitten wir Sie, den Absender zu informieren. *** ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] FW: Blocking request of a homepage
As you might or might not know, most ISPs are strongly agains blocking websites and will only do so, if ordered by court. AFAIK it only happened once until now, by a judge in Vaud (we all remember the trouble this caused). The problem with blocking pages is, that it doesn't work and/or scale. If you take the domain out of the DNS, the customer can simply use another DNS server. If you want to block it on some sort of Firewall/Filterlist, you have to administer that by hand, which ISPs generally don't like to do. So my guess is, that nobody blocks that site. When it comes to SMTP, that's a different story... Cheers, Viktor Zitat von "Ladu, Daniele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Perhaps this message didn't arrive to the list, i try it one more time > > -Original Message- > From: Ladu, Daniele > Sent: Donnerstag, 14. Juli 2005 08:50 > To: 'swinog@swinog.ch' > Subject: Blocking request of a homepage > Importance: High > > > Hello dear SWINOG members > > I have a friend, that has a Club Music related Newsletter with over 15000 > Email Adresses with double opt in and out. > On the 12. July a little ISP has sent a request to hostpoint, regarding my > friend and his spaming activity. > > The ISP told Hostpoint, that www.housestation.ch was blocked by some ISPs. As > i know, sunrise has never blocked > the Homepage of housestation. I think that the complaint from the ISP is a > "private hate" against my friend. > > Therefore i wanna ask, if you can tell me if you (ISP) are blocking this > Homepage, and if yes, how can we find > out what the reason of the blocking is. > > Also we have complained at Hostpoint regarding the forward of the complaint > without having the related Mailheader > of the Spammail sent by my friend. The other thing is, that the Spammail in > question was sent out on May. But my friend > has sent out the Newsletter trough hostpoint the first time on the beginning > of june. > > Thanks you for your help and feedbacks. > > Sincerly, > > > Daniele Ladu > Senior Technical Support Operator > > Sunrise > TDC Switzerland AG > Abuse Team > Thurgauerstrasse 60 > 8050 Zürich > Tel. +41 1 300 53 61 > Fax +41 58 777 97 07 > Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Internet www.sunrise.ch > > *** > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended > solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. > If you have received this email in error please notify it to the sender. > > Cet email ainsi que tous les fichiers qui lui sont attaches sont > confidentiels > et reserves a l'usage exclusif des personnes auxquelles ils sont adresses. > Si vous avez recu cet email par erreur, veuillez avoir l'obligeance > d'en informer son emetteur. > > Dieses email sowie alle damit verbundenen Dateien sind vertraulich und nur > fuer diejenigen Personen bestimmt, an die es adressiert ist. > Wenn Sie dieses email irrtuemlicherweise erhalten haben, bitten wir Sie, > den Absender zu informieren. > *** > > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
