Re: [swinog] What GeoIP Locator service do srf.ch, bluewin.ch and iTunes use?

2012-01-27 Diskussionsfäden Fredy Kuenzler

Am 26.01.2012 15:59, schrieb Steven Glogger:

as far as I heard akamai is doing the stuff for SRF. but i'm sure fredy
knows more about it.


hey... :-)

I can only speak for the SRF radio streams which are distributed by Init7.
Most, actually almost all of them, don't have any geolocation based blocking.

Am 26.01.2012 16:26, schrieb Benoit Panizzon:

The Problem was solved. They use an offline version of the wipmania.com
GeoIP Database. They added our range to their offline database and we
have also submitted the range to wipmania.com as it was flagged
'unknown'.


I wasn't aware of WIPmania. It doesn't look too promising though, as they
claim on there website:


25 Mai 2011 - Letzte Änderung der WorldIP Datenbank

added or changed 8140 networks
100.749.550 IP addresses changed
total 91423 networks


37.17.232.0/21 which was recently allocated to Init7 Germany is also
missing, for example. I submitted this range now. It seems that WIPmania is
not importing new allocation automatically.

Large blocks such as 37.50.0.0/15 and 37.80.0.0/12 which have been allocated
to T-Mobile three days ago should appear immediately, or at least as soon as
they show up in the routing table.

Best regards,

Fredy Künzler
Init7 / AS13030


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Re: [swinog] What GeoIP Locator service do srf.ch, bluewin.ch and iTunes use?

2012-01-26 Diskussionsfäden Steven Glogger

as far as I heard akamai is doing the stuff for SRF.
but i'm sure fredy knows more about it.

-steven

On 01/25/12 14:06, Benoit Panizzon wrote:

Hello World

Some of our customer within our 31.11.0.0/19 allocation, get blocked while
trying to access streaming content from drs.ch, bluewin.ch and iTunes, because
somehow those sites think they are located outside switzerland. (I suppose it
mainly affects content hosted as srf.ch)

http://www.ipaddresslabs.com
and
http://www.maxmind.com

Do locate the ip addresses correctly to switzerland.

So I suppose SRF uses some other service.

Does somebody know what GeoIP Locator services srf.ch uses? The SRF IT
Helpdesk was not able to tell me.

Kind regards

Benoit Panizzon




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Re: [swinog] What GeoIP Locator service do srf.ch, bluewin.ch and iTunes use?

2012-01-26 Diskussionsfäden Benoit Panizzon
Hello

The Problem was solved. They use an offline version of the wipmania.com GeoIP 
Database. They added our range to their offline database and we have also 
submitted the range to wipmania.com as it was flagged 'unknown'.

-Benoit-


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Re: [swinog] What GeoIP Locator service do srf.ch, bluewin.ch and iTunes use?

2012-01-25 Diskussionsfäden Fadi Bushnaq
Hi Benoit,

Can`t say for sure how srf do it but in most cases this is done based
on internet registry queries (RIPE db for example). Maybe you checked
this already but it is possible that the specific IPs having the issue
are not directly related to the /19 you mentionned but to a smaller
more specific subnet which is assigned to a different country (or was
recently as most of these applications do not make real time queries
and only synchronise from time to time). Could you possibly provide
one or two of the impacted IPs to see if they are part of the /19 or a
smaller subnet?

In addition to this I also read that some content providers perform
more checks on top of the IP layer, for example related to browser or
media application settings, at this level only srf can give you more
details. Anyway in my experience similar problems were almost always
related to the subnet information in the internet registry...

Regards,
Fadi


On 1/25/12, Benoit Panizzon benoit.paniz...@imp.ch wrote:
 Hello World

 Some of our customer within our 31.11.0.0/19 allocation, get blocked while
 trying to access streaming content from drs.ch, bluewin.ch and iTunes,
 because
 somehow those sites think they are located outside switzerland. (I suppose
 it
 mainly affects content hosted as srf.ch)

 http://www.ipaddresslabs.com
 and
 http://www.maxmind.com

 Do locate the ip addresses correctly to switzerland.

 So I suppose SRF uses some other service.

 Does somebody know what GeoIP Locator services srf.ch uses? The SRF IT
 Helpdesk was not able to tell me.

 Kind regards

 Benoit Panizzon
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