RE: [swinog] future of dsl

2005-07-28 Diskussionsfäden David Tschan
At the following link can some more infomations about the plans and
timetables of Swisscom with VDSL be found. (sorry, only in german)

http://www.tschan.ch/swinog/Triple_Play_Netzstruktur_und_Architektur.pdf


Regards
David

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|I doubt it would be VDSL - more likely VDSL2. Which gives them a very 
|limited footprint. Distances with VDSL2 are very limited.

Indeed. There was a short talk 2 months ago by Swisscom, explaining
their plan to deploy VDSL2, which actually implies moving the exchanges
closer to the users, and their roadmap for coverage in the big cities.
The presentation is available here:
http://www.giti.ch/documents/Presentation_3PInfra.pdf

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Re: [swinog] future of dsl

2005-07-22 Diskussionsfäden Ueli Heuer
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 12:55:19 +0200 Frei Stefan

 1.)
 If a given phoneline (be it analog or ISDN) is registered for ADSL
 use, you can successfully run whatever ADSL account on it.
 
 2.)
 The bandwith you get is based on the bandwith bought for that
 specific phoneline.
 
 3.)
 The IP addresses you get are based on the account used for logging in.

this is working at the moment but swisscom will block this in the near
future :(

 Based on my experiance/experiment (2 years ago), your idea would work
 with the above limitations.
 
 If someone has more insight on how this works in the backbone,
 I would be interessted to learn about.

you'll find design cases in the Ciscopress book [1] or on the cisco
homepage. you should search for VPDN solutions 

Ueli

[1] I have to look at home for the title of this book. I'll post it
later.

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Re: [swinog] future of dsl

2005-07-22 Diskussionsfäden Martin Ebnoether

Kuster, Christian schrieb:

[about updates, horrible TOFU-Quoting because of
 high suck-level removed]


Another argument not to use windoze...


So, you say you never update your Linux- and/or Unix-Systems? 
Good luck then.


I think Windowsupdate is great, but thats more or less the only 
thing that I find good about Windows though. Oh and some games 
like Freelancer. =:-)


CU, Venty
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Re: [swinog] future of dsl

2005-07-22 Diskussionsfäden Folken
On Fri July 22 2005 12.52, Glogger Steven wrote:
 hi olivier

  Idea: Let's say I have a standard (600/100) flatrate adsl
  account from ISP A at home, and the Sunrise 150 flex
  somewhere else (holiday house, chalet, grandparents, etc.).
 
 
  Will it still work if I just configure the sunrise adsl line
  with the login/pw information of ISP A ?  (assuming I turn
  off the router at home).

No need to turn off the router in one place. I had a case where a person 
got an old router from a third party.. the credidentials of the 3rd 
party where still in the router. Connected it and logged in, while the 
3rd party was connected with the same account. (This had been running 
for about 3/4 of a year, until i discovered it.) 

greetings, 
 - Folken
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Re: [swinog] future of dsl

2005-07-22 Diskussionsfäden Marco Steinacher

Folken wrote:

On Fri July 22 2005 12.52, Glogger Steven wrote:


hi olivier



Idea: Let's say I have a standard (600/100) flatrate adsl
account from ISP A at home, and the Sunrise 150 flex
somewhere else (holiday house, chalet, grandparents, etc.).


Will it still work if I just configure the sunrise adsl line
with the login/pw information of ISP A ?  (assuming I turn
off the router at home).



No need to turn off the router in one place. I had a case where a person 
got an old router from a third party.. the credidentials of the 3rd 
party where still in the router. Connected it and logged in, while the 
3rd party was connected with the same account. (This had been running 
for about 3/4 of a year, until i discovered it.) 


This depends on the configuration at the ISP. Multiple logins at the 
same time may be allowed or not. If a fixed IP address is associated 
with this login you'll get troubles anyway, but that's another story.


Marco

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