Re: [swinog] hosting for 1 powersupply with lan port

2012-06-05 Diskussionsfäden Adrian Friedli
Hallo

On Saturday 02 June 2012 14.49:09 Stanislav Sinyagin wrote:
> I. SSH auth. forwarding

I use ssh's ProxyCommand option instead, it will use netcat on the jumphost to 
act as a proxy for an ssh connection. With this method your client's 
known_hosts file will be used and your ssh-key stays on your client, so you 
don't have to trust the jumphost.

Just add something like this to your .ssh/config:

Host somehost.example.com anotherhost.example.net *.example.org
ProxyCommand ssh jumphost.example.com exec nc -q0 %h %p

Cheers, Adrian


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Re: [swinog] hosting for 1 powersupply with lan port

2012-06-04 Diskussionsfäden Michael Naef
On Monday 04 June 2012 22.18:31 Attila Kinali wrote:
Hi Atila

> Fill the box with thermally conductive epoxy.
> No way to get at the data anymore unless you take a lot of time
> to drill a few holes ... but not too deep! ;-)

A good idea. If you do so, make sure you use slow setting epxoy 
resin. The reaction usually is exothermal and can produce quite a 
bit of heat. And its also coupled by a positive feddback loop. The 
more resin you have in one place, the hotter it gets when setting. 
The hoter it gets, the faster it will set. The faster ist sets, the 
more heat is produced :) Slowly setting resin is also of higer 
viscosity, which makes it to creep deeper into the gaps and holes 
and develops higher adhesive and cohesive forces, which, to come to 
an end, makes it harder to get rid of it.

Or you could use an unstable explosive to fill the housing, of 
course. But this, in turn, might prove to make it harder to find a 
place to house your box :D

Sorry for loosing focus. Over and out, Michi


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Re: [swinog] hosting for 1 powersupply with lan port

2012-06-04 Diskussionsfäden Attila Kinali
On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 11:50:59 +0200
Silvan Gebhardt  wrote:

> The cloud is completely anonymous, that makes the feeling to do
> something (as a provider) much lower in my opinion. Knowing someone,
> even the face, is much better. Since I know this point I did not call it
> "physical security" but "security through obscurity" on purpose. Since
> such a plug PC makes extraction of data a bit more complex - possible
> always  - I gain time. Time when the box is offline to revoke my keys ;)

Fill the box with thermally conductive epoxy.
No way to get at the data anymore unless you take a lot of time to drill
a few holes ... but not too deep! ;-)

If you need more security, then there are a few techniques that are
able to erase memory as soon as the case is opened or broken. But
those require custom devices and are thus a bit more expensive.

Attila Kinali

-- 
Why does it take years to find the answers to
the questions one should have asked long ago?


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Re: [swinog] hosting for 1 powersupply with lan port

2012-06-03 Diskussionsfäden Stanislav Sinyagin
another way to avoid the ssh agent intrusion is to use TCP tunneling through 
SSH. Then the intermediate host is only used for TCP connection bridging, but 
all the authentication is happening outside of your jumphost.



- Original Message -
> From: Stanislav Sinyagin 
> 
> 
>> 
>>  From: Jeroen Massar 
>> 
>> On 2 Jun 2012, at 05:49, Stanislav Sinyagin  
> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> When I'm logged in to the VPS, I can do 
>>> 
>>>   ssh -A ssinyagin@1.2.3.4
>>> with this command, the server 1.2.3.4 authenticates me through my public 
> key, and the VPS acts as the SSH agent proxy. So, if that server has my 
> public 
> key in .ssh/authorized_keys, I'm easily in, and no security breach on the 
> VPS would affect my security.
>> 
>> 
>> Unless the attacker is on the jumpbox as root as then they can also forward 
> in the same way, but this should not happen ofcourse ;)
> 
> 
> yes, in theory if the attacker is logged in as root, then during my SSH 
> session 
> they may make an SSH connection using my credentials. But it would be 
> difficult 
> to stay unnoticed, and it's only possible while I'm logged in.
> 


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Re: [swinog] hosting for 1 powersupply with lan port

2012-06-02 Diskussionsfäden Stanislav Sinyagin





>
> From: Jeroen Massar 
>
>On 2 Jun 2012, at 05:49, Stanislav Sinyagin  wrote:
>
>
>
>When I'm logged in to the VPS, I can do 
>>
>>  ssh -A ssinyagin@1.2.3.4
>>with this command, the server 1.2.3.4 authenticates me through my public key, 
>>and the VPS acts as the SSH agent proxy. So, if that server has my public key 
>>in .ssh/authorized_keys, I'm easily in, and no security breach on the VPS 
>>would affect my security.
>
>
>Unless the attacker is on the jumpbox as root as then they can also forward in 
>the same way, but this should not happen ofcourse ;)


yes, in theory if the attacker is logged in as root, then during my SSH session 
they may make an SSH connection using my credentials. But it would be difficult 
to stay unnoticed, and it's only possible while I'm logged in.


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Re: [swinog] hosting for 1 powersupply with lan port

2012-06-02 Diskussionsfäden Stanislav Sinyagin





>
> From: Jeroen Massar 
>To: Stanislav Sinyagin  
>Cc: Silvan Gebhardt ; "swinog@lists.swinog.ch" 
> 
>Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 4:05 PM
>Subject: Re: [swinog] hosting for 1 powersupply with lan port
> 
>
>On 2 Jun 2012, at 05:49, Stanislav Sinyagin  wrote:
>
>
>When I'm logged in to the VPS, I can do 
>>
>>  ssh -A ssinyagin@1.2.3.4
>>with this command, the server 1.2.3.4 authenticates me through my public key, 
>>and the VPS acts as the SSH agent proxy. So, if that server has my public key 
>>in .ssh/authorized_keys, I'm easily in, and no security breach on the VPS 
>>would affect my security.
>
>
>Unless the attacker is on the jumpbox as root as then they can also forward in 
>the same way, but this should not happen ofcourse ;)
>
>yes
>
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Re: [swinog] hosting for 1 powersupply with lan port

2012-06-02 Diskussionsfäden Jeroen Massar
On 2 Jun 2012, at 05:49, Stanislav Sinyagin  wrote:

> When I'm logged in to the VPS, I can do 
>   ssh -A ssinyagin@1.2.3.4
> with this command, the server 1.2.3.4 authenticates me through my public key, 
> and the VPS acts as the SSH agent proxy. So, if that server has my public key 
> in .ssh/authorized_keys, I'm easily in, and no security breach on the VPS 
> would affect my security.

Unless the attacker is on the jumpbox as root as then they can also forward in 
the same way, but this should not happen ofcourse ;)

For this reason, I tend to use a key per device and keep all authorized key 
files in svn, which makes it easy to identify which nodes are possibly 
compromised or at least quickly remove access. You could use the forward trick 
and keep the private key etc on your local device.

Remote syslogging is for this reason a good idea. Jumphosts in general should 
also solely run an sshd and nothing else. But that is what you are aiming for, 
any access is then easily noticed.

> On the latest DENOG meeting, there was an interesting report that offline RAM 
> chips still hold traces of your data for few hours, so be careful with that 
> too :)

Cold boot attacks are quite old by now ;) there is a reason there are TPMs in 
quite some hardware, if possible use those or other dedicated crypto storage.

> As an alternative, there was somewhere a project that modifies rsync in a way 
> that it can work with encrypted data on the remote site.

Check duplicity for this purpose.

> 
> did I miss something?

To start with defining who you think your adversaries are, that is the most 
important step in something like this.

Greet,
 Jeroen


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Re: [swinog] hosting for 1 powersupply with lan port

2012-06-02 Diskussionsfäden Stanislav Sinyagin
ok, more to the details.

I. SSH auth. forwarding
=

on my PC, I have my private SSH key, encrypted with a good password. As I 
control this environment, I make sure this is the only copy of my private key, 
and all backup copies are encrypted with other passwords.

On my VPS that I use as a jumphost, I have my public key in 
.ssh/authorized_keys. So my login does not even have a password on that server. 


When I'm logged in to the VPS, I can do 

  ssh -A ssinyagin@1.2.3.4
with this command, the server 1.2.3.4 authenticates me through my public key, 
and the VPS acts as the SSH agent proxy. So, if that server has my public key 
in .ssh/authorized_keys, I'm easily in, and no security breach on the VPS would 
affect my security.


II. Secure data on a foreign machine
==

so, your VPS is in an untrusted environment, and you need to store sensitive 
data on it (e.g. VPN configuration and keys).

You create a cryptfs folder, mount it with a manually entered password, and 
store your sensitive data on it. As long as the server is running, your 
processes can access the data. If the server reboots, it needs to notify the 
operator via email or SMS, and the operator logs in and mounts the cryptfs 
again.

Of course depending on the virtualization technology, your provider may log in 
from the VM console and see your data. So, you either trust your provider, or 
use a physical machine like pcengines. On the latest DENOG meeting, there was 
an interesting report that offline RAM chips still hold traces of your data for 
few hours, so be careful with that too :)


As an alternative to cryptfs, you can mount a RAM disk and initialize its 
content from your home location via an SSH tunnel. If you use Git, you can also 
do incremental updates to the running system.



III. Off-site backups
==

what I do is let my home NAS pack the data directory, encrypt it with AES256, 
and push towards the VPS server. So, nightly I transfer a few hundred 
megabytes. It works fine as long as I keep the footprint within reasonable 
limits. 


As an alternative, there was somewhere a project that modifies rsync in a way 
that it can work with encrypted data on the remote site.



did I miss something?




 


>
> From: Silvan Gebhardt 
>To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch 
>Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 11:50 AM
>Subject: Re: [swinog] hosting for 1 powersupply with lan port
> 
>
>Good Morning!
>
>
>The cloud is completely anonymous, that makes the feeling to do
something (as a provider) much lower in my opinion. Knowing someone,
even the face, is much better. Since I know this point I did not
call it "physical security" but "security through obscurity" on
purpose. Since such a plug PC makes extraction of data a bit more
complex - possible always  - I gain time. Time when the box is
offline to revoke my keys ;)
>
>
>I do have to trust the people I will be hosting it with, there is a
reason I do it in switzerland. (Yes, I belive after beeing the
nation of money we will be the *data bankers* soon)
>
>
>@Stanislav: Interesting flag with SSH -A - I will have to read there
futher, is this something like PFS with IPSEC? never heard about
that flag. 
>
>
>I think we are creating a topic for next swinog here. "Networking
for Mobile workers (Mosh) with paranoia"
>
>
>
>
>Am 02.06.2012 08:57, schrieb Viktor Steinmann: 
>Interesting topic, especially looking at the current cloud trends. We've been 
>discussing this internally and came to the conclusion, that as long as someone 
>has physical access to a server, he will always be capable of reading the data 
>on that server with more or less effort.
>>
>>Even using a high level of physical security to ensure, nobody has
  physical access to the box can be broken with enough time and
  effort, especially from the people housing the box.
>>
>>In the end, all you need is trust. If you trust the people housing
  your box and if you trust their ability to keep the bad guys
  physically away, everything is fine. If you can't trust them you
  are lost in any case.
>>
>>Kind regards,
>>Viktor 
>>
>>Am 02.06.2012 01:05, schrieb Stanislav Sinyagin: 
>>security by obscurity?
>>>you know, with a JTAG adapter and a bit of knowledge, one can read the 
>>>onboard flash from those plugs too.
>>>so, probably a better approach is to have a system which doesn't expose your 
>>>data when the disk is compromised. The simplest example is SSH with public 
>>>key authentication and authentication forwarding (-A flag).
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: [swinog] hosting for 1 powersupply with lan port

2012-06-02 Diskussionsfäden Miguel Elias
Good morning,

If you care so much about physical penetration of your equipment, why
bother with local storage anyway.

There are enough solution out there, which do not need to have a
installed system.

As example:
Coreboot with etherboot (payload)
this combination allows you to load a system with a http server and
there is even a so called SafeBootMode with verification of your boot-image.
After that you only need an local storage, which could be a ramdisk or
an encrypted tmp / swap hard or flash drive.

So there wouldn't be any necessity to obscure your hardware anyhow and
all further penetration vectors would need a higher sophistication.

PS: I do agree that PCengines do need more RAM. A version with at least
512MB would be highly appreciated.

Saludos
Miguel



On 02.06.12 11:50, Silvan Gebhardt wrote:
> Good Morning!
> 

> 
> I do have to trust the people I will be hosting it with, there is a
> reason I do it in switzerland. (Yes, I belive after beeing the nation of
> money we will be the *data bankers* soon)
> 
> 
> @Stanislav: Interesting flag with SSH -A - I will have to read there
> futher, is this something like PFS with IPSEC? never heard about that flag.
> 
> 
> I think we are creating a topic for next swinog here. "Networking for
> Mobile workers (Mosh) with paranoia"
> 
> 



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Re: [swinog] hosting for 1 powersupply with lan port

2012-06-02 Diskussionsfäden Silvan Gebhardt
Good Morning!


The cloud is completely anonymous, that makes the feeling to do
something (as a provider) much lower in my opinion. Knowing someone,
even the face, is much better. Since I know this point I did not call it
"physical security" but "security through obscurity" on purpose. Since
such a plug PC makes extraction of data a bit more complex - possible
always  - I gain time. Time when the box is offline to revoke my keys ;)


I do have to trust the people I will be hosting it with, there is a
reason I do it in switzerland. (Yes, I belive after beeing the nation of
money we will be the *data bankers* soon)


@Stanislav: Interesting flag with SSH -A - I will have to read there
futher, is this something like PFS with IPSEC? never heard about that flag.


I think we are creating a topic for next swinog here. "Networking for
Mobile workers (Mosh) with paranoia"




Am 02.06.2012 08:57, schrieb Viktor Steinmann:
> Interesting topic, especially looking at the current cloud trends.
> We've been discussing this internally and came to the conclusion, that
> as long as someone has physical access to a server, he will always be
> capable of reading the data on that server with more or less effort.
>
> Even using a high level of physical security to ensure, nobody has
> physical access to the box can be broken with enough time and effort,
> especially from the people housing the box.
>
> In the end, all you need is trust. If you trust the people housing
> your box and if you trust their ability to keep the bad guys
> physically away, everything is fine. If you can't trust them you are
> lost in any case.
>
> Kind regards,
> Viktor
>
> Am 02.06.2012 01:05, schrieb Stanislav Sinyagin:
>> security by obscurity?
>> you know, with a JTAG adapter and a bit of knowledge, one can read
>> the onboard flash from those plugs too.
>> so, probably a better approach is to have a system which doesn't
>> expose your data when the disk is compromised. The simplest example
>> is SSH with public key authentication and authentication forwarding
>> (-A flag).
>>
>
>
>
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Re: [swinog] hosting for 1 powersupply with lan port

2012-06-02 Diskussionsfäden Viktor Steinmann
Interesting topic, especially looking at the current cloud trends. We've 
been discussing this internally and came to the conclusion, that as long 
as someone has physical access to a server, he will always be capable of 
reading the data on that server with more or less effort.


Even using a high level of physical security to ensure, nobody has 
physical access to the box can be broken with enough time and effort, 
especially from the people housing the box.


In the end, all you need is trust. If you trust the people housing your 
box and if you trust their ability to keep the bad guys physically away, 
everything is fine. If you can't trust them you are lost in any case.


Kind regards,
Viktor

Am 02.06.2012 01:05, schrieb Stanislav Sinyagin:

security by obscurity?
you know, with a JTAG adapter and a bit of knowledge, one can read the 
onboard flash from those plugs too.
so, probably a better approach is to have a system which doesn't 
expose your data when the disk is compromised. The simplest example is 
SSH with public key authentication and authentication forwarding (-A 
flag).





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Re: [swinog] hosting for 1 powersupply with lan port

2012-06-01 Diskussionsfäden Stanislav Sinyagin
security by obscurity?
you know, with a JTAG adapter and a bit of knowledge, one can read the onboard 
flash from those plugs too.
so, probably a better approach is to have a system which doesn't expose your 
data when the disk is compromised. The simplest example is SSH with public key 
authentication and authentication forwarding (-A flag).






>
> From: Silvan Gebhardt 
>To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch 
>Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 10:28 PM
>Subject: Re: [swinog] hosting for 1 powersupply with lan port
> 
>
>Hello Stanislav and List
>
>
>There are two reasons why I want this plug PC:
>
>
>1) security through obscurity. if someone by whatever means take
this thing apart - an alix is very easy to dump the content off it.
a VPS is even worse. 
>
>2) such a Plug PC has at least double the ram an alix has, the
moment you want to also run mutt on it it starts to become a bit
relevant, with a few dozend openvpn client connections as well I
do run a lot of Alixes globally already, I do know the whole box
quite good. 
>
>I'd love to keep this box in switzerland as well ;) 
>
>Thanks for the input, mosh will be a topic I will update the ML if
the interest is there - I'm looking forward to see how it behaves on
sat connections etc.
>
>Silvan
>
>Am 01.06.2012 10:36, schrieb Stanislav Sinyagin: 
>
>>
>>but actually for your purpose, I would just buy the cheapest VPS at 
>>http://www.buildyourvps.com/
>>
>>
>>I've got one for about $35 a year. The machine (or probably the network) is 
>>heavily oversubscribed, but you get a virtual machine on a dedicated IP 
>>address.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>________
>>> From: Stanislav Sinyagin 
>>>To: "swi...@swinog.ch"  
>>>Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 10:24 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [swinog] hosting for 1 powersupply with lan port
>>> 
>>>
>>>Silvan, I would highly recommend pcengines.ch instead. They are quickly 
>>>available (usually shipped the next day after ordering) from a Swiss store, 
>>>and so far they are the cheapest linux boxes that I could find. I'm using 
>>>them exactly for the same purpose - as ssh jumphosts :)
>>>
>>>
>>>http://linux.voyage.hk/  is a flavor of Debian specifically tailored for 
>>>these boxes. It mounts the root in read-only mode by default, so your CF 
>>>storage is written only when needed.
>>>
>>>
>>>here I put a few related notes in my blog: 
>>>http://txlab.wordpress.com/tag/voyage-linux/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Silvan M. Gebhardt 
>>>>To: swi...@swinog.ch 
>>>>Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:10 PM
>>>>Subject: [swinog] hosting for 1 powersupply with lan port
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>Hi Swinogers,  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I'm currently thinking about deploying a Sheevaplug or similar with mosh 
>>>>(http://mosh.mit.edu) as a login jumphost since I am several hours in 
>>>>mobile mode every day and I need a space outside of my network to host a 
>>>>*jump host*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>please contact me offlist and offer me housing for something like 
>>>>that: http://www.plugcomputer.eu/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>All I am taking up is some bandwith (expected bandwith in average probably 
>>>>1mbit max, half of it for keepalives for outbound vpn tunnels, 
>>>>Power consumption apparently less than 10watts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Need v6 and v4 connection, 1 IP each, public, not firewalled, 1 Plug in the 
>>>>power strip
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Since this is a rather
  non-standard thing I'm looking
  for, but I need it in a datacenter
  outside my infrastructure, I
  thought it's best to ask here.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Btw, for anyone experienced already or looking into mosh, looking forward 
>>>>for exchange here
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Good Evening!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Silvan
>>>>
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Re: [swinog] hosting for 1 powersupply with lan port

2012-06-01 Diskussionsfäden Silvan Gebhardt
Hello Stanislav and List


There are two reasons why I want this plug PC:


1) security through obscurity. if someone by whatever means take this
thing apart - an alix is very easy to dump the content off it. a VPS is
even worse.

2) such a Plug PC has at least double the ram an alix has, the moment
you want to also run mutt on it it starts to become a bit relevant, with
a few dozend openvpn client connections as well I do run a lot of
Alixes globally already, I do know the whole box quite good.

I'd love to keep this box in switzerland as well ;)

Thanks for the input, mosh will be a topic I will update the ML if the
interest is there - I'm looking forward to see how it behaves on sat
connections etc.

Silvan

Am 01.06.2012 10:36, schrieb Stanislav Sinyagin:
>
> but actually for your purpose, I would just buy the cheapest VPS at
> http://www.buildyourvps.com/
>
> I've got one for about $35 a year. The machine (or probably the
> network) is heavily oversubscribed, but you get a virtual machine on a
> dedicated IP address.
>
>
> 
> *From:* Stanislav Sinyagin 
> *To:* "swi...@swinog.ch" 
> *Sent:* Friday, June 1, 2012 10:24 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [swinog] hosting for 1 powersupply with lan port
>
> Silvan, I would highly recommend pcengines.ch
> <http://pcengines.ch> instead. They are quickly available (usually
> shipped the next day after ordering) from a Swiss store, and so
> far they are the cheapest linux boxes that I could find. I'm using
> them exactly for the same purpose - as ssh jumphosts :)
>
> http://linux.voyage.hk/  is a flavor of Debian specifically
> tailored for these boxes. It mounts the root in read-only mode by
> default, so your CF storage is written only when needed.
>
> here I put a few related notes in my blog:
> http://txlab.wordpress.com/tag/voyage-linux/
>
>
>
>
> 
> 
> *From:* Silvan M. Gebhardt 
> *To:* swi...@swinog.ch
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:10 PM
> *Subject:* [swinog] hosting for 1 powersupply with lan port
>
> Hi Swinogers, 
>
>
> I'm currently thinking about deploying a Sheevaplug or similar
> with mosh (http://mosh.mit.edu) as a login jumphost since I am
> several hours in mobile mode every day and I need a space
> outside of my network to host a *jump host*
>
>
> please contact me offlist and offer me housing for something
> like that: http://www.plugcomputer.eu/
>
> All I am taking up is some bandwith (expected bandwith in
> average probably 1mbit max, half of it for keepalives for
> outbound vpn tunnels, 
> Power consumption apparently less than 10watts.
>
> Need v6 and v4 connection, 1 IP each, public, not firewalled,
> 1 Plug in the power strip
>
>
>
> Since this is a rather non-standard thing I'm looking for, but
> I need it in a datacenter outside my infrastructure, I thought
> it's best to ask here.
>
> Btw, for anyone experienced already or looking into mosh,
> looking forward for exchange here
>
>
>
> Good Evening!
>
> Silvan
>
>
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Re: [swinog] hosting for 1 powersupply with lan port

2012-06-01 Diskussionsfäden Stanislav Sinyagin


but actually for your purpose, I would just buy the cheapest VPS at 
http://www.buildyourvps.com/

I've got one for about $35 a year. The machine (or probably the network) is 
heavily oversubscribed, but you get a virtual machine on a dedicated IP address.




>
> From: Stanislav Sinyagin 
>To: "swi...@swinog.ch"  
>Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 10:24 AM
>Subject: Re: [swinog] hosting for 1 powersupply with lan port
> 
>
>Silvan, I would highly recommend pcengines.ch instead. They are quickly 
>available (usually shipped the next day after ordering) from a Swiss store, 
>and so far they are the cheapest linux boxes that I could find. I'm using them 
>exactly for the same purpose - as ssh jumphosts :)
>
>
>http://linux.voyage.hk/  is a flavor of Debian specifically tailored for these 
>boxes. It mounts the root in read-only mode by default, so your CF storage is 
>written only when needed.
>
>
>here I put a few related notes in my blog: 
>http://txlab.wordpress.com/tag/voyage-linux/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> From: Silvan M. Gebhardt 
>>To: swi...@swinog.ch 
>>Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:10 PM
>>Subject: [swinog] hosting for 1 powersupply with lan port
>> 
>>
>>Hi Swinogers, 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>I'm currently thinking about deploying a Sheevaplug or similar with mosh 
>>(http://mosh.mit.edu) as a login jumphost since I am several hours in mobile 
>>mode every day and I need a space outside of my network to host a *jump host*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>please contact me offlist and offer me housing for something like 
>>that: http://www.plugcomputer.eu/
>>
>>
>>All I am taking up is some bandwith (expected bandwith in average probably 
>>1mbit max, half of it for keepalives for outbound vpn tunnels, 
>>Power consumption apparently less than 10watts.
>>
>>
>>Need v6 and v4 connection, 1 IP each, public, not firewalled, 1 Plug in the 
>>power strip
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Since this is a rather non-standard thing I'm looking for, but I need it in a 
>>datacenter outside my infrastructure, I thought it's best to ask here.
>>
>>
>>Btw, for anyone experienced already or looking into mosh, looking forward for 
>>exchange here
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Good Evening!
>>
>>
>>Silvan
>>
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Re: [swinog] hosting for 1 powersupply with lan port

2012-06-01 Diskussionsfäden Stanislav Sinyagin
Silvan, I would highly recommend pcengines.ch instead. They are quickly 
available (usually shipped the next day after ordering) from a Swiss store, and 
so far they are the cheapest linux boxes that I could find. I'm using them 
exactly for the same purpose - as ssh jumphosts :)

http://linux.voyage.hk/  is a flavor of Debian specifically tailored for these 
boxes. It mounts the root in read-only mode by default, so your CF storage is 
written only when needed.

here I put a few related notes in my blog: 
http://txlab.wordpress.com/tag/voyage-linux/






>
> From: Silvan M. Gebhardt 
>To: swi...@swinog.ch 
>Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:10 PM
>Subject: [swinog] hosting for 1 powersupply with lan port
> 
>
>Hi Swinogers, 
>
>
>
>
>I'm currently thinking about deploying a Sheevaplug or similar with mosh 
>(http://mosh.mit.edu) as a login jumphost since I am several hours in mobile 
>mode every day and I need a space outside of my network to host a *jump host*
>
>
>
>
>please contact me offlist and offer me housing for something like 
>that: http://www.plugcomputer.eu/
>
>
>All I am taking up is some bandwith (expected bandwith in average probably 
>1mbit max, half of it for keepalives for outbound vpn tunnels, 
>Power consumption apparently less than 10watts.
>
>
>Need v6 and v4 connection, 1 IP each, public, not firewalled, 1 Plug in the 
>power strip
>
>
>
>
>
>Since this is a rather non-standard thing I'm looking for, but I need it in a 
>datacenter outside my infrastructure, I thought it's best to ask here.
>
>
>Btw, for anyone experienced already or looking into mosh, looking forward for 
>exchange here
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Good Evening!
>
>
>Silvan
>
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